outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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nyc positivity doubled in a week, wouldn't be surprised if it doubles again even faster

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/weve-never-seen-this-before-in-nyc-covid-positivity-rate-doubles-in-3-days-as-omicron-spreads/3454450/

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

In early November my 1 year old had a runny nose and low grade fever so the daycare made me get a PCR with a negative result before she could return. Took her the next day and waited maybe 15 minutes to get the swab. Got the result that night. On Friday a kid in her class tested positive so they shut down her room and advised us to get her tested again. My wife went up last night and they said it was a 5 hour wait. She went again at noon and they’re 81st in line. No clue if we’ll get the results tonight

Heez, Thursday, 16 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

yeah nyc is popping off

I figured social media being flooded with covid-positive New Yorkers was some sort of algorithmic artifact but on Sunday there were actually more positive cases reported in Manhattan than any day since the start of the pandemic pic.twitter.com/IXt2hElc4n

— Jake Anbinder (@JakeAnbinder) December 16, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 December 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

Looking @ that and having 2 people on set pop positives today i’m inclined to think that most of these new catches are bc people are testing before the holiday and the sample is bigger than a given weekday

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 December 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

there is a simpler explanation

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 December 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

nyc positivity doubled in a week

^that's the one that says it's not just an artifact of more people getting tested ahead of the holidays

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 16 December 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

Xp right the simple explanation is everyone has it currently but no one knows bc vax works etc

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 December 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

boston does have a measure that's independent of people testing, people testing correctly, people having access to testing, etc. i.e. toilet water. it's a laggy and noisy measure, so it's not perfect. but unless everyone in boston decides to stop going potty it doesn't have biases that change as a function of time, unlike testing. cases are up!

https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 December 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

posted on the rona thread but yeah NYC is hot right now. had 3 coworkers in NY just test positive

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 December 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

one of my band members tested positive. vaccinated and boosted (ofc). says it feels like a bad cold

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 December 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

we're all gonna get covid for christmas

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 December 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

Santa Baby.

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 December 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

https://www.yahoo.com/news/omicron-dominant-wastewater-samples-florida-173842553.html

interesting point in this article: omicron has overtaken delta in Orlando, but hospitalizations are all delta

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

Most likely because it takes a couple of weeks for
Infection to hospitalization and omicron is new in town

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

so glad the wife and I already decided we were staying around home for the holidays

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link

This is where the calculus gets tricky for us. We skipped seeing my father-in-law for Christmas last year for obvious reasons, now that we are all vaxxed and boosted we had planned to go see him this year, but all the news this week makes us a little nervous. Thing for my wife, especially, is that he's 83. She, quite understandably, doesn't want to keep skipping seeing him because, well, he's 83.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

My mom’s 93 and halfway across the country and I feel like I have no idea when I’ll see her

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

My sister and her family just flew in from….. South Africa

Heez, Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link

Haven’t seen them in 3 years

Heez, Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link

My mom’s 93 and halfway across the country and I feel like I have no idea when I’ll see her

Yeah, to be clear, not putting that out as a "woe is me" post, clearly a lot of people struggling far with far worse situations. Just frustrating how quickly risk calculus can change.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

Shut down a job today because the third person on our interview docket had a weird persistent cough

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

new study, currently saying no evidence that Omicron is milder: https://www.ft.com/content/020534b3-5a54-4517-9fd1-167a5db50786

already dummies misinterpreting the study on both sides.

*This isn't saying "Omicron is definitely not milder", just that there's no evidence CURRENTLY to say that it is with confidence

*It acknowledges that hospitalizations/severe outcomes could likely be the case, just like in SA, but that the reason for it could be prior infection/immunity just as much as mildness.

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

--- btw could we have a new thread at some point? There's over 15k posts in this one!

kinder, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link

holy FUCKING SHIT

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link

i never noticed that

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

Posts are growing exponentially

kinder, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

If we don't get it under control, at this rate we'll hit 800,000 posts by next spring.

Tbf, the thread precedes covid by some span.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

not sure covid is thread worthy

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 17 December 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link

It's no ebola.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

Stop posting. Flatten the curve.

DJI, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

This is the key part of the table from this Imperial study showing "no evidence" Omicron is less severe than delta. It's a simple logit regression.

Basically the results tell us "loads of young people got Omicron, and very few of them needed hospital treatment" https://t.co/0ae8L6ofxG pic.twitter.com/Y77di6XaKC

— Peter Sivey (@petesivey) December 17, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

bookmarks make all threads short of course. this is an interesting document of sorts.

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

"outbreak 2: omicron and on"

koogs, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

already dummies misinterpreting the study on both sides.

*This isn't saying "Omicron is definitely not milder", just that there's no evidence CURRENTLY to say that it is with confidence

the comical thing about all this is that the one thing we DO know is that omicron spreads so fast we are definitely gonna know one way or the other about its severity profile two weeks from now, so a huge amount of ink is being wasted arguing about it right now.

OK I guess not really "wasted"; certain aspects of policy response that have to be decided right now do depend on the answer to this question, I guess.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

Not just so fast but apparently so easily, given the number of tales I've heard of even boosted people catching it. If you've gotten vaccinated, you've been boostered, and you wear a mask and you are reasonably cautious and it still breaks through, albeit with anecdotally mild symptoms, what else can you do?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

Then again, as I understand it the majority of cases locally here have still been delta.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

xxpost the thing that annoys me about that are all of the assholes who are like "WHY DON'T WE KNOW YET? OUR LEADERS NEED THIS INFORMATION TO ACT", as if we should wait until we know everything about Omicron before planning to deal with it.

the same people who scream "WHY DON'T WE KNOW WHERE THIS HURRICANE IS GOING YET, LIVES DEPEND ON IT" as if getting warning 5+ days in advance that your area might get hit isn't giving you ample time to prepare and evacuate if you need to, as opposed to waiting until the last minute to find out GPS coordinates for what street the hurricane is going to traipse down

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

i almost certainly have omicron - i live in london, where it’s rapidly taking over, i’ve been vaxxed and boosted and previously infected with the OG strain - yet my family members continue to test negative, with zero symptoms, including my mother in law who’s supposedly, ha ha, ha ha ha, going back to france on sunday, hahaha.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

My wife (elementary school librarian) got new guidance on quarantining. It doesn't actually go into effect until mid-January, though!

DJI, Friday, 17 December 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

btw could we have a new thread at some point? There's over 15k posts in this one!

― kinder, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:25 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have a more radical solution to this, something along the lines of a circuit breaker where our "top" ten covid posters maybe take a two week break from blogging here idk

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

honestly if someone wants to threadban me from this thread, I would welcome it. I can't seem to stop myself, like a bad habit.

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

ha ha wait is this me

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

I have a more radical solution to this, something along the lines of a circuit breaker where our "top" ten covid posters maybe take a two week break from blogging here idk

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warehouse-13-artifact-database/images/8/80/Mccarthy_holding_list.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151221030058

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

Goddam it.
https://progressive.org/downloads/5270/download/Screen%20Shot%202017-01-03%20at%209.48.56%20AM.png?cb=c4a7db57c9e999ed5e304327da730ae3&w=640

(That's two posts, will that count against me?)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

Undoubtedly

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

I’ll gladly « top » you all

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 17 December 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

#paymentfortoptenposters

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 December 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

I have a more radical solution to this, something along the lines of a circuit breaker where our "top" ten covid posters maybe take a two week break from blogging here idk

― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 17 December 2021 bookmarkflaglink

rude imo

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

is that my posting frequency

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 December 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link


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