Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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Yeah probably because "punch a staff member" is far more likely to lead to direct consequences and identification, less so vandalizing an unobserved corner of the school.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 December 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

Hey, Idk if this will make anyone feel better, but those moral panic things that sweep through every few months are rarely based on anything. Just in the few years I worked in a school I think we had to prep 4-5 of them, hold staff meetings, have a "strategy" in case the Blue Whale Challenge turned out to be A Thing (it did not), panic every time a season of 13 Reasons Why came out, etc etc. It was so stupid. But schools have to do it, they have to show they made a game plan and informed people. I blame how much adults are unprepared for kids to grow up with social media; the mass anxieties create these dumb panics.

It doesn't help when school districts and/or police departments take them 100% at face value and encourage the freak out because it suits their desire to look relevant and justify their hyper-militarization.

wonder how much of the political inertia re: school shootings is to deliberately stoke terror in the voting parents and/or further destroy public schools. #justamericathings

― bitter brutal brittle (cat), Friday, December 17, 2021 7:21 AM (fourteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, December 17, 2021 5:12 PM

yeah, sounds very familiar https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/how-baltimore-riots-began-mondawmin-purge/

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 December 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

A little surprised that others didn't note another murder spree from a neo-nazi:

5 dead in Denver 'killing spree' by suspect with extremist views, police sources say

2. The killer, Lyndon McLeod, wrote and self-published a series of books under the pen-name "Roman McClay," according to Denver TV station KDVR. McLeod died in a shootout with police at the end of his killing spree. https://t.co/AskKy2oE3L

— Nick Martin (@nickmartin) December 29, 2021

3. The first book in the series includes an image on its cover of a skull marked with a wolfsangel, a symbol used by the original Nazis and some neo-Nazis. The back cover of the book describes the author as "96% Norse-Scot 4% Neanderthal." pic.twitter.com/VGISLbsacb

— Nick Martin (@nickmartin) December 29, 2021

worst boy (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link

FP'd you for linking those

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

This happened less than 5 miles away from me. Fucking tragic awful - shot his own 3 kids himself & possibly social worker or chirch mediator … the Mom was not on site, she had a restraining order on the shooter

fucked up beyond belief & happening almost daily it seems

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article258904863.html

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 04:51 (two years ago) link

I was just reading about this... so completely tragic, they fact that it happened at a supervised visit makes it even more tragic (if that's possible)

AR-15, of course

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 March 2022 22:49 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.stereogum.com/2180267/sxsw-shooting-injury-austin/news/

StanM, Sunday, 20 March 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link

my wife is stuck in traffic right there currently as cops are running around guns drawn and helicopters flying around

BREAKING: multiple people shot at Tanger outlets. I just saw a woman and man taken with gun shots wound.

POLICE TELL ME SCENE IS ACTIVE. pic.twitter.com/eaGpVjxU5z

— Nicole Grigg (@NicoleSGrigg) March 23, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

Marsha Blackburn just now at the Brown hearings: "in times like these, I'm just so grateful that the founding fathers had the foresight to ensure our right to bear arms in the second ammendment of the constitution." -- times like these where there are shootouts or mass shootings in public spaces nearly every single day, you mean?

BrianB, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 23:55 (two years ago) link

I don't understand how these incidents keep happening in areas with concealed carry and a lot of gun owners…
Spottie I hope your wife wasn't too shaken up by that

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 24 March 2022 01:16 (two years ago) link

she was stuck there for about 25 minutes but shes all good.

sounds like some injuries but no deaths reported

#BREAKING: Glendale PD say five people were injured, three of which are juveniles, in the shooting at Tanger Outlets. Their injuries are non-life threatening. https://t.co/kkJfkHZrpT #abc15 pic.twitter.com/v8CvDyajYg

— ABC15 Arizona (@abc15) March 24, 2022

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 24 March 2022 05:20 (two years ago) link

6 dead, 9 injured in Sacramento shooting

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/03/sacramento-downtown-shooting/7261794001/

StanM, Sunday, 3 April 2022 13:09 (two years ago) link

WTF

Suspect at large after 10 shot at Brooklyn subway station

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brooklyn-subway-shooting-nyc/index.html

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link

"The attack is not being investigated as an act of terrorism" - I wonder what their definition of terrorism is, then. (I actually don't, it's going to be something like "they didn't look middle-eastern" isn't it)

StanM, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

I guess the distinction is whether it's just some lone, troubled kook (like the Texas clocktower shooter) or someone with some kind of political agenda (though they might also be a lone, troubled kook)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:41 (two years ago) link

it's going to be something like "they didn't look middle-eastern" isn't it)

In order to be an -ism, there needs to be a political objective, not just a lot of murders. Unless the killer was shouting political messages at the scene there's nothing to indicate a motive, yet.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link

there are legal reasons for the distinction as well, which dont' mean so much to the general public, but does more to the prosecutors

scientific method man (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link

I guess a hate crime thats designed to sow fear among people of a certain group would be considered terrorism.

o. nate, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

good points, everybody .

StanM, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link

"There is a hole in our lives."

https://news.yahoo.com/few-answers-police-continue-investigate-230148825.html

What a headline.

“Only in this country is someone shot and injured or killed every 17 hours in a road rage incident.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/road-rage-shootings-guns-texas.html

earlnash, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 01:21 (two years ago) link

We've had two road rage shootings here in Maryland in the past few weeks.

peace, man, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 10:36 (two years ago) link

"The attack is not being investigated as an act of terrorism" - I wonder what their definition of terrorism is, then.

https://wtop.com/national/2022/04/police-hunt-gunman-who-wounded-10-in-brooklyn-subway-attack/

"The man arrested Wednesday in the shooting of 10 people on a Brooklyn subway was charged with a federal terrorism offense, a day after the attack on a crowded rush-hour train."

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link

so did the guy turn himself in like the police are saying, or are they just trying to get out of paying the $50k reward to the bodega guy who called the cops?

akm, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 21:18 (two years ago) link

Huh? They were very publicly acknowledging the Crime Stoppers tip this morning during the press conference, so I don't think they're trying to get out of that

Nhex, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

seems like the guy might just be crazy crazy and applying any sort of logical motive to what he's done would be a fool's errand

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 April 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link

is "he hates everyone and everything" not a logical motive?

Nhex, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

just going by his youtube videos

Nhex, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:08 (two years ago) link

NYPD is saying the shooter himself filed the crimestoppers tip. Maybe the bodega guy has turned out to be a chancer

akm, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link

NYPD is saying the shooter himself filed the crimestoppers tip. Maybe the bodega guy has turned out to be a chancer


A flaw in the plan

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link

Can a person collect the reward on themselves? Have to read the fine print, I guess.

o. nate, Thursday, 14 April 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

the most insane thing about the whole NY thing is that the cops did shit and yet the media everywhere seems to be eating up these accounts of cops working hard with citizens to catch the guy.

he turned himself in.

the amount of copaganda that people just swallow unthinking in this country is unfathomable to me

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link

Bring in Easter with a shooting, or two, or three!

https://www.wmbfnews.com/2022/04/17/police-nine-shot-south-carolina-club/

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 April 2022 22:52 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

a white supremacist killed 10 people in a supermarket in Buffalo. he published a 106 page manifesto about the great replacement and streamed it on twitch.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/mass-shooting-supermarket-buffalo-10-dead/

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 14 May 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

this is just down the road from me. freaking out, but everyone i know seems to be safe. there are a lot of white supremacists here.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

there are a lot everywhere, i think. they're more brazen in some areas than others. i'm glad everyone you know is ok. what a nightmare

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

glad that you and those you know are safe. fuck.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

I’m hearing that the shooter was 18?!?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 14 May 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

he'll be a GOP Senator in no time

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 14 May 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

one of these passages is from a book by @TuckerCarlson and the other is from the manifesto of the white supremacist shooter who killed 10 people today pic.twitter.com/sViHxcD3dC

— Current Affairs (@curaffairs) May 14, 2022

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 14 May 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link

The right’s gonna blame this on mental illness but this guy seems pretty damn articulate to me

Who am I kidding, clearly this is the fault of uhhh pronouns

frogbs, Sunday, 15 May 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

here's the headline I see:

At least 10 dead, 3 hurt in Buffalo supermarket shooting; Gov. Hochul blames 'white supremacist'

pretty gross phrasing. guy literally had a Nazi manifesto, why put "white supremacist" in quotes like that? why imply it's the mayor who came to this conclusion? fucking cowards.

frogbs, Sunday, 15 May 2022 02:16 (one year ago) link

yeah, this is white supremacist terrorism. the only people who would want to obscure this are people sympathetic to his aims.

treeship., Sunday, 15 May 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

she should pin that directly on elise stefanik

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 May 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

(this is maybe better for the copyeditors & grammar fiends thread but) couldnt you argue the opposite with that headline, that putting it in quotes makes it clear that the governor chose to use the words "white supremacist"? like if it said governor blames white supremacist without the quotes, it could potentially be interpreted to mean that the governor referred to a person who the headliner writer is identifying as a white supremacist, but it wouldnt necessarily be clear if the governor referred to them as such? idk

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Sunday, 15 May 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

i mean whatever who cares, ignore that, sorry its late & i'm a bit frazzled

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Sunday, 15 May 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

well sure but why mention the governor at all, it's clear what this kid was, and where he got it from. Just say it was a white supremacist shooting.

frogbs, Sunday, 15 May 2022 03:29 (one year ago) link

The shooting is “racially charged”

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 15 May 2022 07:43 (one year ago) link

Thred:

A manifesto has been published on /pol, credibly claiming to be written by the guy who carried out this attack.

It's a standard fascist "white genocide" rant, filled with 4channy in-jokes, ala the Christchurch shooter. Most obviously he gives Sam Hyde's picture as his own. https://t.co/1pDejN9tsW

— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) May 14, 2022

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 15 May 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link


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