Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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tbh I've seen a clip of Rylance
and I just wanna watch him

Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link

Zoe Williams for some years has been presented as a commentator on the political Left.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/06/starmer-lawyer-johnson-labour-leader-conservatives-prime-minister

Her judgment on KS's vacuous speech:

if you connect those two thoughts – we have workplace rights, and we all have value – it represents a significant break with the last 12 years of economic reality and political discourse.

The transfer of power from the worker to the employer that, with zero-hours contracts and poverty wages, has seemed inexorable, would not survive this meaningful reassertion of workplace rights.

Further:

Starmer’s speech, perhaps for the first time since he became leader, performed a jujitsu move: yes he is a lawyer, and Johnson could have at it. He conveyed this explicitly, his patriotism mediated through his hinterland as the “country’s leading prosecutor”. He also did so implicitly, framing his relationship with voters as a “contract” – about as lawyerly as it comes. And he laid a very simple, yet nevertheless lawyerly trap for Johnson: the prime minister himself is unfit for office, yet the problem is with the entire party, not just one man.

This is like the liberals in, what, April 2020 saying Opposition is coming and KS can chair a meeting.

But it's ZW and it's January 2022 !!

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 January 2022 12:05 (two years ago) link

Later the same day, Johnson gave a press conference of his own, in a move that cynics, which is now all of us, read as attempting to draw attention away from Starmer’s speech

this is so preposterous and wouldn't make tactical sense because if there has been one constant with Starmer it is the more people see of him the less they like him. Probably the best strategy would be him repeatedly going into self-isolation and not doing any more tedious policy-free flag-shagging re-launch speeches.

calzino, Thursday, 6 January 2022 15:18 (two years ago) link

Barney Ronay, perhaps the Marina Hyde of the sportpages, writes with mature weariness that both sides in the Djokovic case are too extreme and we should be less 'polarised'.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/14/novak-djokovic-v-australia-is-a-grudge-match-for-our-polarised-age

the pinefox, Saturday, 15 January 2022 00:14 (two years ago) link

the pretence of being above culture war talking points from a lousy graun hack, yeah sure!

calzino, Saturday, 15 January 2022 01:19 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/23/the-hounding-of-kate-clanchy-has-been-a-witch-hunt-without-mercy

This kicked up quite the little shitstorm, especially when Monbiot decided he should race into the fray and then rapidly backpedaled out. At least he was good enough to admit his fault.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 23 January 2022 19:06 (two years ago) link

maybe at first he just couldn't believe there would be the racially stereotyping of school-children and the author judging them on how attractive she considered them in an Orwell prize winning book. Anyway Sonia Sodha is definitely not a hill to die on!

calzino, Sunday, 23 January 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

Well what was left out of the article was the author denying quotes from her book were legitimate when they were presented to her.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 23 January 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link

"It is true that Clanchy reacted badly to the criticism, denying the phrases in question were in her book."

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 January 2022 11:22 (two years ago) link

Is it bad stereotyping and shallow to take one look at Clanchy's photo in that article and think 'she looks like the biggest terf ever'

imago, Monday, 24 January 2022 11:25 (two years ago) link

Cheers Andrew, I should have read it more closely. There was more in the Twitter thread roping in Rusbridger etc but maybe that’s enough from me for now.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 24 January 2022 12:18 (two years ago) link

didn't the whole thing in fact start with clanchy complaining on twitter about negative goodreads reviews with "made up" quotes and asking people to flag them lol, that's still leaving out a crucial part of that context

ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 12:57 (two years ago) link

tbf on her she's a class act 👏👏👏

calzino, Monday, 24 January 2022 13:22 (two years ago) link

A writer so bad, anonymous, dreary, stupid and malicious that she can almost make other Guardian pundits look good - but she excels herself here

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/28/essex-rebrand-vajazzle-money

in saying that only class-obsessed snobs are interested in the Peasants' Revolt.

And I always thought the Peasants' Revolt had something do with lower-class people. Must have been misled by the name.

the pinefox, Friday, 28 January 2022 13:36 (two years ago) link

I think her point is we should be celebrating revolting peasants not peasant revolts

rob, Friday, 28 January 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link

as someone who regularly enjoys holidays to various parts of Essex, I'm with the pinefox here - that article is anti-intellectual, pandering shite

imago, Friday, 28 January 2022 14:53 (two years ago) link

also, visit Colchester

imago, Friday, 28 January 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link

Where does she get the idea that Essex doesn't attract tourists? It's beside the sea, it has resorts?

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Friday, 28 January 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link

>>> also, visit Colchester

why, Imago?

Genuine question.

the pinefox, Friday, 28 January 2022 15:34 (two years ago) link

a Blur pilgrimage? :p

calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link

my eldest has lived in Essex for a few years now and tells me TOWIE is downplayed and subtle

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

Colchester: Roman stuff.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

a Blur pilgrimage? :p

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lol

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link

ffs haha

imago, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link

Aren't you going to answer, Imago? I was interested.

I have been to Colchester a few times. I'm very fond of it, though maybe its centre is a bit limited if you had to spend every day there. But it has quite a number of nice attractions. I don't think I saw anything Roman except maybe a wall.

the pinefox, Friday, 28 January 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

is it rory mcgrath related? that's what i'm going with

mark s, Friday, 28 January 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link

the moral arc of an ilx thread can be long, but it bends toward rory mcgrath

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mark s, Friday, 28 January 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

Oh I am! Was just polishing off some work.

It has, once you get onto North Hill walking down from the station (unless you change there and get the shuttle to the Town station, which is even better placed and next to an abandoned priory), some exceedingly lovely shopfronts, a number of excellent restaurants and cafes (with a slightly lower-than-usual proportion of big chains), generally impressive and homely architecture (the quieter parts of the town are especially pleasant to walk around, especially near the river), a genuinely superb castle/museum centrepiece (one of the best I've visited) in a pretty parkland setting, the entrance to which is also next to the Hollytrees local museum and the Natural History museum in a converted church, both of which are excellent free-entry affairs (the Hollytrees has a brilliant grandfather clock collection as well as a permanent toys-through-the-ages exhibit), and a smattering of excellent micropubs. The only shame is that some of its better antique vendors have shut down permanently. It's a short, cheapish train from London, and unlike dire Cirencester it doesn't trade entirely on its Roman history and essentially gear its entire being towards the peddling of tat.

imago, Friday, 28 January 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er9Vf-YXYAIG6b8?format=jpg&name=900x900

calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link

there it is

mark s, Friday, 28 January 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

Thanks Imago - that's an excellent answer.

St Botolphs Priory is a marvel - and is just next to what's now called the FirstSite visual arts facility, isn't it? Spectacular building though I'm not sure about what they put inside it.

On the high street there's a good independent bookshop (Red Lion?), and the town hall is one of the most spectacular places in town - worth looking inside at the historical displays. All near the castle which is so unusual - unlike any other English castle I've seen.

You didn't even mention the Minories, the arts centre, the Jumbo tower or the Mercury Theatre.

I don't know the micropubs, though. Which are they?

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 January 2022 10:45 (two years ago) link

St Botolph is regarded as the patron saint of boundaries, and by extension, of trade and travel

never heard of that saint before, perhaps the original FBPE? There are some really crap minor English saints!

calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 11:23 (two years ago) link

"… the country being overrun by a Wave of Saints. Among these were St Ive, St Pancra, the great St Bernard (originator of the clerical collar), St Bee, St Ebb, St Neot (who invented whisky), St Kit and St Kin, and the Venomous Bead… "

mark s, Saturday, 29 January 2022 11:31 (two years ago) link

the Venomous Bead sounds like a badass!

calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 11:34 (two years ago) link

St Neot is my chosen one

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 29 January 2022 11:36 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKQNggAX0AIHBae?format=png&name=small

And to date, there have been 20 articles written supporting Kate's narrative of being the cancelled kind teacher lady who has been on the receiving end of a witch-hunt. TWENTY.

calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 12:53 (two years ago) link

xps to the pinefox we should do next ilb fap in a micropub tbf

mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

Somewhere where the conditions are less Arctic, for sure.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 January 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link

Definitely, hopefully xyzzzzzzzz can do a better job organising than last time

mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link

I like the plan, poster gyac, though micropubs must be the worst possible environment for any kind of distancing and safety, if anyone still believes in that stuff (which apparently they don't) ?

the pinefox, Saturday, 29 January 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link

Me and gyac at the next ILB fap

pic.twitter.com/kPse8RCuVP

— columbo screenshots (@ColumboScreens) January 29, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link

Me and gyac at the next ILB fap

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— columbo screenshots (@ColumboScreens) January 29, 2022🕸]🐦


I’m going to need the joke explained (that’s how you know it’s a good joke)

mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/1qWTFjJExr

— columbo screenshots (@ColumboScreens) January 29, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:09 (two years ago) link

Rachel Cooke at it again in this terrible attempt to make Streeting happen

It’s not only that his crab apple cheeks and short back and sides give him the look of a kindly wartime grocer, the sort who might slip you a bag of illicit sugar.


This isn’t even about me but Streeting was probably fuming reading this ^

In the other, used for meetings, there is an espresso machine and a coffee table on top of which is John Bew’s biography of Clement Attlee


incredible

We’re better off without them, bluntly. There has always been a problem with elements of the left, particularly the far left, who revel in their self-righteousness, who love telling voters how disappointed they are in them.


Look forward to Labour never receiving my worthless vote again then, McShitter.

Unlike some, he doesn’t think Tories are bad people.

No shit.

People ask: why isn’t he in the Labour party? (Starmer has refused to reinstate the Labour whip to Corbyn.)The answer is simple: because he chooses not to be.


“Stop hitting yourself.”

(Though he was bullied at school for his cleverness.)

.

Does he believe in biological sex? “Yes, of course,” he says. Does he think it’s helpful for his colleague David Lammy to accuse women with concerns in this area of being “dinosaurs” who were “hoarding” their rights? For a moment, he is silent. Then he says: “One of the things that men have always underestimated is the sense in which women have felt like they’re being told to be quiet, which is why in this context it is incendiary.” Since he spoke to Robinson, he says, he has been pleased to find that some of his female parliamentary colleagues have felt able to come and talk to him about their concerns.


I bet.

He took Joe to see Deacon Blue in Southend for his birthday. “I had a UK garage phase in the sixth form, but at heart I’m an indie boy. Britpop was the greatest for me, growing up.”


Honestly. The sooner this paper falls into the sea the better.

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:20 (two years ago) link

Rachel Cooke is a massive TERF obvs.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:26 (two years ago) link

what kind of profile of this freakish psychopath doesn't mention "McShitter" once?

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:38 (two years ago) link

xp yes we discussed this itt when she did that disgraceful interview with Amia Srinivasan iirc

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:02 (two years ago) link

"zealous interest in trans rights" 🤔

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:06 (two years ago) link


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