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I was about to type something (probably heavily influenced by John McPhee) about how the geology of Manhattan affects the skyline, and I saw this

http://www.actforlibraries.org/the-geology-of-manhattan/

There is a persuasively made counterargument that it is economics, not the accessibility of bedrock, that accounts for the profusion of skyscrapers in lower Manhattan and midtown, and the relative paucity of skyscrapers in (say) Greenwich Village.

I am not convinced yet but I am intrigued that it's up for debate.

; (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

https://buildingtheskyline.org/bedrock-and-midtown-i/

; (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link

^ the counterargument

; (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link

I've always wondered why I was led to believe you couldn't build tall buildings in the East Village/Lower East Side and then suddenly there were a bunch of tall buildings there after 2000 or so. That second link does offer an explanation.

Josefa, Monday, 3 January 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

That article is great but ignores the impact of Zoning regulations which started limiting building heights in certain areas starting around WWI (although granted that's slightly later than his time frame).

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 3 January 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link

good articles!

Nhex, Monday, 3 January 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

Wow, great read - I've definitely heard and repeated the bedrock story myself.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Monday, 3 January 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

I don’t know that Barr’s story is sufficient to entirely support his claim to be honest— I mean yeah, the cost of building caissons to bedrock may not be prohibitive for an additional feet as he specifically claims, but 20 STORIES deeper? Your market has to be pretty damn supportive to make your time horizon to profitable roi doable, esp before robots and deep drilling to keep the proles from dying of the bends all the time (if they cared about that). He never writes that bedrock is not a necessary target zone.

Like his point is good and important, but now I want more content on what tech it takes to make that shit now, or if there’s now bldgs that float on quicksand or whatever.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:59 (two years ago) link

“50 ft”

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 05:00 (two years ago) link

The Michelin man is made out of stacked tires

Tyres of the future from the Michelin man - prints now in the shop: https://t.co/iznhWeAhMj pic.twitter.com/qpRYy3Jdvl

— Flashbak.com (@aflashbak) January 11, 2022

silverfish, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link

Show the tire guy some respect. He’s got a name, and it’s Bibendum

mh, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link

Are Michelin * restaurant guides even related to the tire company anymore?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

Yes. Bibendum writes them.

mh, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

Yes, still the same company.

I fondly recall my grandad being a slave to the AA's version of the scheme in the UK and their Book of the Road.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

Michelin guide, where to eat when out driving etc.
A bit like the Green Book though a lot less necessary I guess. JUst is useful to know where it is worth eating if one is far away from home.
Whereas the Green Book told people where they actually could eat

Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 22:05 (two years ago) link

the one restaurant in London, by the museums, has bibendum stained glass windows

http://www.spinarchitecture.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Exterior-e1512663506701.jpg

koogs, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link

If he ever teamed up with the Kool-Aid man, they could cause a lot of damage

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 23:42 (two years ago) link

the Michelin House is one of the greatest lesser-known architectural treats in all London.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

my ex collects bibendum miscellany, it's a weird mascot

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link

Identical twins don't have identical fingerprints: https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/atlanta-twin-murder-case-echoes-fingerprint-origins/story?id=9909586

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 13 January 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

There's actually a way to properly fold a fitted sheet.. but I've tried & failed several times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckTCocBCUN4

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 January 2022 02:17 (two years ago) link

I learned that fitted sheet fold as a New Years resolution some years back. Took awhile to master but has been worth it for gaining closet space.

Jaq, Thursday, 13 January 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link

I did that for a few years but kinda just gave up and roll it into a ball again

Nhex, Thursday, 13 January 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link

this is an oldish one for me, but for years I was familiar with at least a half a dozen Rahsaan Roland Kirk albums without knowing he was blind. lol when I say oldish I mean about 3 years ago.

calzino, Thursday, 13 January 2022 03:27 (two years ago) link

Have watched those kinds of videos several times and still can never get the fitted sheet folding technique in person.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 13 January 2022 11:14 (two years ago) link

my secret to fitted sheets is to have one set of sheets that you wash and reinstall the same day

joygoat, Thursday, 13 January 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

This ^^^

nickn, Thursday, 13 January 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

Say "I'm a sheet fitter and I fit sheets" ten times fast

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 January 2022 20:37 (two years ago) link

Nutella has coco in it.i thought it was just hazelnuts. I learned this maybe two years ago.

I feel so ripped off.

Night of Olay: The Resurrection (I M Losted), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link

I just asked my 11 year old niece how long she could survive on Nutella alone.. her reply: "Well, at least eleven years!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link

you used to get one of the nut spreads in jars with 2 colours of it a chocolate and a more beige natural one. Not sure if that was Nutella cos this was the early to mid 70s. I think you still get a swirl variety with something close to those 2 colours.

Stevolende, Thursday, 20 January 2022 09:33 (two years ago) link

is there a separate "things i've mispronounced for so long [and at this point i'm blaming a good portion of society for witnessing me using it and not correcting me on this]" thread?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 20 January 2022 09:58 (two years ago) link

Not specifically, I don’t think, but take your pick of general pronunciation threads!

https://i.imgur.com/gfDV5Hh.jpg

Alba, Thursday, 20 January 2022 11:04 (two years ago) link

That you can bite both ends off a Twix and use it as a straw to drink tea/coffee/hot chocolate.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 22 January 2022 10:01 (two years ago) link

Ginger Rogers was called Ginger because...

One of Rogers's young cousins, Helen, had a hard time pronouncing "Virginia", shortening it to "Badinda"; the nickname soon became "Ginga".[

... and not because she had red hair... which never made much sense anyway because she was blonde.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 January 2022 10:28 (two years ago) link

"Ginger" as a term for redheads isn't very common in North America.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 22 January 2022 13:47 (two years ago) link

At least until that South Park episode aired.

peace, man, Saturday, 22 January 2022 13:51 (two years ago) link

Yeah, my brother (born 1955) and nephews (born late 80s) all had red hair, and it was frequently commented on, but never with that word.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 22 January 2022 13:59 (two years ago) link

wonder why that would be, would have thought the language would have diverged after the word ginger was adopted. Though of course immigration came from a load of other places, not just the United Kingdom.
Is there a term adopted from another language that took dominance or anything.
Wonder what the common parlance was before the spice became common.
& carrot top depends on a piece of political propaganda since earlier versions of that vegetable come in different colours anyway.

Stevolende, Saturday, 22 January 2022 14:06 (two years ago) link

Ginger is also fairly common nickname for Virginia

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 22 January 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link

how to fold a fitted sheet (though maybe not shocking)

removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Saturday, 22 January 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link

I know two people called Ginger and they are both nicknames for Virginia. Only one of them is a redhead.

I don't think I'd heard "ginger" as a pejorative until "24 Hour Party People."

umami dearest (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 January 2022 14:28 (two years ago) link

is ginger as a descriptive automatically perogative.
just thinking chestnut for brunette doesn't seem to have the same connotation.
THough usage doesn't necessarily follow

Stevolende, Saturday, 22 January 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link

Our Amber has always identified as ginger since she was born (btw, we had chosen her name before)

She's 23 now

Mark G, Saturday, 22 January 2022 14:46 (two years ago) link

USA map shows a lot of red heads in central south appalachia as %, perhaps explaining virginia note above.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Saturday, 22 January 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link

Lot of people of UK/Irish extraction down that way.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 January 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

the proper term is hillbillies

rob, Saturday, 22 January 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link

University Challenge is based on the US TV show College Bowl.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 22 January 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link


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