rolling journalism into the shitbin thread

that sounds like good news

I have experience in nonprofit journalism, and think it can be a good thing, yes.

We will never return to the world in which legacy-print outlets are either a great money-making venture or a major determiner of cultural consensus, however. To a sizable chunk of the public, "public media" is basically an arm of leftist propaganda that they will never believe or take seriously. To a different chunk of the public, they're not leftist enough, so again, not to be believed or taken seriously.

While I am sad about this state of affairs, I don't know that there's enough duct tape or Bactine or baling wire or whatever the missing ingredient is to fix the current information landscape. In one sense, there used to be a rough consensus about reality. It was deeply flawed, in incredibly harmful ways, but it was mostly shared.

People nowadays can inhabit mutually unintelligible epistemological spaces, and I am having a hard time being optimistic about the future of information. Sorry, downer

We will never return to the world in which legacy-print outlets are either a great money-making venture or a major determiner of cultural consensus

You say this but the New York Times is doing a pretty good job at both these things

People say it’s an anomaly but it worked very hard to get that way

https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/02/a-little-bit-of-salary-transparency-in-travel-journalism-was-a-nice-thing-that-happened-on-media-twitter-today/?fbclid=IwAR2fkHbDda66QocVyT1toPP4Zze5lkf1OQYqTszJufC8Mj1HxiaLAb4lJ8M

https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/entertainment-weekly-print-digital-instyle-1235175928/?fbclid=IwAR196-ip7DWUYnj0ApimDQTWpCT8zjI-B5ZiImB6IaHQIcXmFDDYQMQ0K4k

In a tense, 3-hour meeting with Baltimore Sun staff, new owner David Smith said he didn't read newspapers, asked staffers to rank each other, suggested they be more like Fox45. And more ... reports @LeeOSanderlin @codyboteler https://t.co/QrIWCe7ny2

— Kimi Yoshino (@kyoshino) January 17, 2024

Ah yes, what Maryland needs right now is more right-leaning paper-based media.

Ok please forgive my bitterness but in the year of our lord 1985 I had a journalism teacher who had never worked for a newspaper or, as far as I could tell, had never read a newspaper.

If this is how print journalism dies, let it be so. I will pull some deck chairs out to the shoreline and wistfully watch it burn.

I've known a few advisors who've never worked for a newspaper. but weren't conservative hacks.