Worst ever festival line up?

I'd pay a bucket of piss (not mine)

brass against isn't playing this one iirc

I think they're streaming their set.

Why are all these festivals in the desert

there's a return-to-form thing happening with the new avril stuff, it's also all produced by travis barker from blink

who also did the machine gun kelly pop-punk record and the willow record and is maybe wholly responsible for the return of warped tour aesthetics to the charts
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, January 18, 2022 7:56 PM (yesterday)

Barker also did "Survivor's Guilt:The Mixtape//" with KennyHoopla, who I hope has a long career in front of him.

already have seen in the past:
MCR (great, would see again if it was less than $40 in a non festival set, so never probably)
AFI (would see again if i had a time machine for their Black Sails era shows)
The Used (forgot who they opened for, they were awful)
Taking Back Sunday (pretty good, would probably see again in a small show)
Dashboard Confessional (lol no)
Alkaline Trio (saw them multiple times but feel like that's in the past for me)
Jimmy Eat World (saw them twice, would totally see them again)

haven't seen, would check out if forced to go to this thing:
Paramore
Thursday
Wolf Alice
Bright Eyes

((lol I accidentally almost type Wolf Eyes instead of Wolf Alice/Bright Eyes, which would be an inspired addition))

xxp you get a much better chance of consistent weather in the spring/fall in the desert than about anywhere else

goldenvoice presumably has some long-standing deals for coachella, etc. and they feed off of LA's transportation hub. this looks like a live nation/las vegas thing, and vegas is pretty much a transportation hub in itself as far as entertainment goes. also, very easy to get everyone in/out when most of the area is just roads to and from the airport

all speculation on my part of course, etc

Brad, in the future everything will be in the desert, so the concert-promotion industry is just doing its part to get us all acclimated.

Je suis mad max

People are losing their minds over this but this is likely going to be a logistical shit show.

Also I'm not a fan of these pure nostalgia fests. It's like the "Happy Together Tour" that my parents go to.

tip of the hat to Ned for sharing this one on Twitter but, yes DT, it very much sounds to be shaping up to be a tremendous shitshow if this is any indication:

The disaster slow roll after this announcement dropped has been an entertaining watch 🍿🍿🍿 pic.twitter.com/akTqp8GnLA

— Auld Slash Zynes (@jvfriedman) January 19, 2022

Guys, there's a UK version...

oh my pic.twitter.com/QDFFzZih6R

— Aidan JR (@mcandidate) January 19, 2022

lol, no Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong?

thats fake.
yeah !?
if not then given me 3oh!3 over this any day.

Ah, had me fooled. Too plausible.

oh nevermind my stupid joke about the fake poster was also foiled by the nearly illegible text in their logo. oops.

"People are worried about how they're going to fit that many bands into under 12 hours"

People forget that Warped Tour did this for like 15 years. Of course, that means 8 stages, 20-minute sets for the undercard bands, and a princely 45-60 minutes for headliners.

People are losing their minds over this but this is likely going to be a logistical shit show.

― DT, Wednesday, January 19, 2022 3:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The big Once Upon a Time in L.A. package show that LiveNation recently did was apparently a shitshow, but got overshadowed by Drakeo's murder.

People forget that Warped Tour did this for like 15 years. Of course, that means 8 stages, 20-minute sets for the undercard bands, and a princely 45-60 minutes for headliners.

― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, January 19, 2022 4:39 PM bookmarkflaglink

there's only going to be three stages

though in that GIF jon shared....I didn't read that All American Rejects post as them actually being shocked that they were on the lineup, it seemed like them cutely bragging about being in the lineup. can't imagine they'd post that for their fans if they legit weren't playing.

they posted the same thing on FB too

Three Stages...oof

Yeah I don't know how true it is about the bands not knowing, I was more struck by the logistics issue as well.

I'd see this if it was every single one of those bands playing at once.

the Charles Ives Festival

More like the Gives You Hives festival (minus the Hives)

starting to side-eye the takedowns of this festival that I've seen off-board. like people suggesting "how can you support a LIVENATION festival", as if they don't have a pretty big monopoly on shows/festivals. pretty much everybody sharing this one viral status criticizing the festival has been to a LiveNation show.

but the weirdest take is IT'S GONNA BE A SUPERSPREADER EVENT. the event is in October 2022. We might be in the throes of another variant wave, we might not. we don't know. should nobody plan any events at all, ever?

I mean, us having moved to the endemic phase by then is not a forgone conclusion, no, but if we're still fighting something like an Omicron wave or worse at that time, chances are it will be cancelled anyway. Now people calling people that are even thinking of attending the event "superspreaders", that's concern trolling at its finest.

(keep in mind I wouldn't set foot at this thing if you paid me)

Yeah, Neanderthal, those are the two exact takes I kept seeing pop up last night, both felt really weird. I've also seen a lot of tweets along the lines of, "what will Bright Eyes think when they learn more about LiveNation's business practices?!?!?!" Uh they are probably well aware and have decided it's a necessary evil in order to make money as a touring band in 2022. I hate them too, but let's not blame the bands and fans when there really aren't many feasible alternatives popping up to choose from.

The AstroWorld fest was an unlikely to be completely repeated Perfect Storm clusterfuck.

I mean...I don't like LiveNation, and I think they hire complete psychos for security at shows (one of whom who demanded I show him my ticket when I entered the pit, minutes after I was told I didn't need to do that by another security guard, and that I'd only need to show my wristband. and when I asked why I had to show my ticket when I had my wristband, she screamed at me and said nasty abusive shit. I couldn't find any way to report her to LiveNation other than report her to another security person, which...lol).

and most of the shows I go to aren't LiveNation, cos I usually go to metal shows put on by one or two promoters in town who I know and are good dudes.

but....if I want to go to any big show, esp one at an ampitheater, I probably have no choice. it's like...Live Nation was terrible long before Astro World, idk how to break this to people. it's not exactly a good thing for billion-dollar global corporations like Ticketmaster/Live Nation to have a near monopoly on this shit, but we saw how well the Pearl Jam boycott worked. the game is rigged, I have to grin and bear it if I want to see a band that has more than 500 fans and is playing outdoors at some place with capacity of more than 1000 people.

the alternatives weren't much better, too. when TicketFly existed (before EventBrite folded them in), their fees weren't as bad as Ticketmaster, but they were still pretty hideous.

(yes, if you can buy directly from one of the bands, always do it, always always)

The Superspreaders are Sub Pop's premier cowpunk band, IIRC

lol

lol my stepbrother's old band are in the UK joke version.

"i wonder how many bands are going to be no-shows when they learn more about LiveNation"

no joke, this is the funniest thing i have seen in a while

seeing that and subsequent discussion of LiveNation as if it is some surprise / little known entity is making me feel like i have passed into a bizarro world or something

Yeah are there a lot of people who only know about livenation bc of astroworld, I guess?

i'm sure there are. and i guess that's what you see here.

it's just not in any way connected to reality.

the thought of one member of, like, All American Rejects reading LiveNation's Wikipedia entry, horrified, and calling a band meeting to discuss whether or not they should take a stand is hilarious

it's bizarre to me because not only did you get routed to LiveNation's site when buying tickets to a LiveNation show, some of the ampitheaters around the country are renamed to LiveNation Ampitheater, and the security staff and other employees all wear LiveNation gear.

like....boggles my mind that people are treating them like a new monster

wait til these bands find out about las vegas

wait until they find out about emo

(too far?)

i want Jesus is a Cunt festival

predict at least 2 band members get cancelled before the festival does

lol

I have bad news for all of you

That's it folks, the Noughties are officially retro. pic.twitter.com/5jN5DZTby6

— AAA Badboy (@KaptinisDead) January 22, 2022

Is the bad news that it’s really easy to make fake posters for great lineups?

Yeah on second glance it's fake as hell but still

I'd totally go to this