Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

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yeah i loved it too & ageee re: baby yoda’s walk, it was v weird

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

Same. I found the Mandolarian quite boring and found this super entertaining.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link

loved the image of tiny baby yoda in the x-wing cockpit being all :D “yep i fly these now”… v funny

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link

I assumed Baby Yoda's waddle was intentionally goofy, super muppet-motion

Nhex, Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link

I found the first 4 eps of this pretty snoozy (albeit agreeably snoozy because it's Star Wars shit), but perked up substantially in ep 5 & 6 due because of excellent decision to jettison core concept. The ending was dumb but fun?

Ultimately I have felt deeply indifferent about this show ever since its existence was revealed at the end of Mando S2 - seems such a weird momentum-killing decision based on assumptions about Boba Fett that I find mystifying. As a OG SW '77 guy, I even struggle with the idea that Temuera Morrison is BF - he doesn't have the vibe I associate with the character at all, and I get no fan service payoff from his reprising the role.

As soon as Mando showed up in this he made Boba Fett redundant, as he has all along - effortlessly capturing what was cool about Boba in the first place (cool armour, body language, bad-assery) but also having compelling extra character layers.

Anyway I watched it with my kids regardless and they sat patiently thru the dull bits and loved all the Baby Yoda payoffs in Ep7.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 11 February 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link

Temura Morrison is also a terrible actor

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 11 February 2022 01:47 (two years ago) link

he is a tricky little bugger

Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 February 2022 02:08 (two years ago) link

Was haunted by the faintest of memories so investigated, and - yes, the first time B.Fett actually appeared onscreen he was riding on the back of a big fuckin dinosaur thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2Q6ANLXQ0

Good to see the new show honouring Boba’s deep love of sitting astride reptiles, a part of his character that I’m sure we can all agree has been under-explored

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 11 February 2022 03:23 (two years ago) link

ok that is amazing

Nhex, Friday, 11 February 2022 04:33 (two years ago) link

There's a decent boba fett history thing on disney+ that touches on this

Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 February 2022 04:47 (two years ago) link

my only complaint really is that it shouldn't have been that easy or quick for Grogu to return to Mando, which cheapens the end of season 2 after all that hard work of trying to get him to Luke in the first place. Having him come back as a full-fledged Jedi who doesn't need to take a nap every five mins would also have been more interesting.

Roz, Friday, 11 February 2022 05:56 (two years ago) link

He chose The Shirt

Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 February 2022 07:49 (two years ago) link

yeah, I agree. while I love Grogu as much as everyone else i was honestly hoping for at least one Grogu-free season of Mando

Nhex, Friday, 11 February 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link

“ Temura Morrison is also a terrible actor”

Someone finally said it. Yes, he’s likeable enough, but damn, the voice actor in clone wars and bad batch provided infinitely more feeling to (what is sort of) the same character. - more range could have transformed this series. The fact that he’s paired with an equally lethargic version of Fennec sure doesn’t help either.

Kim, Friday, 11 February 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

seems such a weird momentum-killing decision based on assumptions about Boba Fett that I find mystifying

In retrospect, having watched this series, I agree with this statement. I think most of the problems with the show stem from the weakness of the original concept. Boba Fett doesn't ever become a very interesting character, and I don't think it's primarily the fault of Morrison. He's just not given much to work with. His backstory seems to be a pile of well-worn tropes from action movies and TV westerns that never cohere into a believable personality. It just seems a perfunctory replay of the Mando pitch: he's a ruthless bounty hunter with a heart of gold! At least in the case of Mando you could imagine there was some weird bond between him and Grogu that was bringing out his soft side. But in the case of Boba, his decision to suddenly become the Richard the Lionheart of Tatooine never really gets any explanation. And the supporting cast is very bland. The only stand-out to me is the weaselly aide of the mayor who somehow heroically drags a memorable performance out of the wooden dialogue he's given to work with. (David Pasquesi, I'll look for him now.)

o. nate, Saturday, 12 February 2022 03:50 (two years ago) link

Pasquesi is a legendary improv artist; making a silk purse out of a sow's ear has been his livelihood for decades.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 February 2022 06:00 (two years ago) link

You need to watch Lodge 49 xp

groovypanda, Saturday, 12 February 2022 06:55 (two years ago) link

also does good work in veep as selena’s ex husband

Clay, Saturday, 12 February 2022 07:10 (two years ago) link

love pasquesi

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 February 2022 07:19 (two years ago) link

wow, how had I not made the lodge 49 connection! of course

mh, Saturday, 12 February 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link

seems such a weird momentum-killing decision based on assumptions about Boba Fett that I find mystifying

really hated how nü fett's default state is without helmet. he takes off his helmet so freaking much! terrible. i get that the showrunners need a way to distinguish him from mando and you're probably paying temeura a lot for that face and continuity with attack of the clones. but '80 fett says that the helmet stays on during sex!

oh yeah other people totally OTM that it's really hard to square "he's worth a lot to me - he's no good to me dead" fett with "these are my people who I must selflessly protect" bad nü fett, regardless of whatever lizardworms entered his brain!

, Thursday, 24 February 2022 03:03 (two years ago) link

And again!

Between darkness and defeat, hope survives.

Watch the new teaser trailer for @ObiWanKenobi, and start streaming the limited series May 25 on @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/XiJANgWrEz

— Star Wars (@starwars) March 9, 2022

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link

Looks phenomenal!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link

Where can I hide the boy? Perhaps with his actual biological next of kin just in the same house they've always been in where they're easy to find. But for myself, I'll need a whole new identity — Ben Kenobi, they'll never crack that one.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) March 9, 2022

o. nate, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link

that dude is such a fucking troll

a (waterface), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link

Yglesias, not Ben Kenobi

a (waterface), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link

Not sure about that Fifth Brother look

groovypanda, Thursday, 10 March 2022 08:12 (two years ago) link

genuinely never thought we'd reach a point where there was generalized nostalgia for the phenomenally shitty "first trilogy" but here we are i guess

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

tbf, Ob-Ewan is one of the (very) few saving graces of the prequels, so I don't mind more of him.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

if i had to pick the most unobjectionable element of those movies, it's definitely mcgregor

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link

genuinely never thought we'd reach a point where there was generalized nostalgia for the phenomenally shitty "first trilogy" but here we are i guess

It's an absolutely real thing, no lie, that for a lot of people who were my age when the originals came out that they're VERY fond of said first trilogy, compounded by The Clone Wars series' impact.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

Yeah Clone Wars - both the Tartakovsky and Filoni versions - did a lot to redeem the prequels.

I’ll always feel bad for McGregor though for having to utter the line “I have seen a security hologram of him... killing younglings!”

Roz, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:48 (two years ago) link

Eps 4 - 6 look like a war in a war-weary universe

Eps 1- 3 look like a screensaver

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link

Yglesias sucks but he's not wrong in that tweet upthread.

obviously, the reason that plot point doesn't work is because Lucas hadn't worked that part out yet when he wrote the first one, Ben was more or less just observing him from a distance to protect him and possibly recruit him later, not "hiding Luke from the dark side on his father's home planet using his father's actual surname".

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

that's kinda why I get so annoyed with neo-Star Wars gatekeepers who call things "not true Star Wars" on the basis of some plot points that don't line up perfectly, because the OG trilogy was full of holes and contradictions and who actually gives a fuck.

remember leaving the Common Area of my dorm freshman year of college because two groups of about 10-15 people started getting into a heated argument about the Clone Wars, with chairs being overturned and stuff

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:59 (two years ago) link

I definitely did not expect the soundtrack to the trailer to lean so heavily on the first trilogy score.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

was hoping it'd be some Marlon Brando sounding guy singing "star warrrr, sta-aa-aar warrrrrs, sta-staaaa-aa-aaar warrrs, sta-aa-arrr wars" to the original theme

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

still haven't finished Fett, mostly because I've never given a fuck about Boba Fett, but I'll get around to it. much more excited for this one, as Obi-Wan deserves a nice reclamation project after what they did to him in the prequels.

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

Just jump to the last three episodes of Fett or, hell, just the last one.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

Not caring about Fett before watching seems to be the easiest path to enjoyment. Watch them all. It's a great series.

pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 March 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link

I just need a weekend where I can actually sit and watch hours of something, and this one might just be it!

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

surfjan otm, that was me — i love star wars but i have never ever given more than two shits about boba fett & i enjoyed the show a lot, chill vibe appreciated imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Almost skipped Book of Boba Fett until I found out it ties in to Mandalorian, so good job Star Wars for forcing me to watch everything you make a la Marvel. But it was quite enjoyable! Yes it's ridden with cliches but this was easily as entertaining as the last season of Mando (I mean, it is Mando for half the season). I feel like SW has gotten into a good groove lately, will certainly watch Obi-Wan

Vinnie, Thursday, 31 March 2022 05:41 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

And one further trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yh_6_zItPU

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Okay so we got the Obi-Wan series about the land and next up is the Andor one -- twelve episodes!

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/05/andor-star-wars-series-diego-luna

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

About TO land, etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I was hoping the Andor thing was about the sea.

DJI, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

by andor by sea

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Thought this was out today but two episodes land Friday instead

groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link


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