The Breakfast Club: classic or dud?

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Argh my EYES! Damn you Dave, damn you to HELL!

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

It wasn't me Sir. I didn't start it. Nasty Ally did.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

Technically it was Nicole who said "Cheetara"!

Allyzay, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

Good spot. s'her fault Sir.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

That is seriously the saddest thing I've ever heard.

Ally, I kiss you.

Lion-O looks a lot like Stevem (pic of SHAME).

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

Nice um... tights.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

It's the hair, isn't it?

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

"I wear the required uniform"
"Right. Tights."
"Shut up"

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:31 (twenty years ago) link

The likeness is uncanny.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:31 (twenty years ago) link

The uncanny ilxor men.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

I fear the new thread this will produce.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

If it produces a pinefox wolverine, I will be happy.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

"Pinefox Wolverine" sounds like some sort of exotic housepet.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

It does at that.

Pinerine? Wolverfox?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

God, was Steve hepped up on goofballs that night?

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

Totally, unreservedly, thoroughly and completely fucking classic.

And I liked it a lot.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

BTW, I'm goin' with Wolverpine.

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

Emilio's stoned yet aggressive dancing is always good for a laugh

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

This thread is should evolve into Taking Sides: Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime vs Lion-O.

The Breakfast Club is classic, I have to mention.

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

'is'. Damn post-work brainstate.

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

Rodimus Prime.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

For some reason I'd never seen this film before now, and I quite liked it, but what the fuck is up with the ending? For most of the film it tries to build a sort of a realistic picture of teenagers' problems, but in the end... love just solves everything? What about the rebel guy's dysfunctional home life? And the goth girl becomes happy just by putting on "normal" make up and kissing the jock guy, all of which happens almost totally out of blue? So everyone ends up happy, except maybe the geek guy, because in the end he still doesn't have anyone. Seriously, this felt like one of the most tacked-on happy endings ever. Pretty in Pink was kinda similar, a down-to-earth teen film with a forced happy ending for everyone. Is this a John Hughes trademark or something?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 07:55 (sixteen years ago) link

First of, this is a movie, we're not looking for realism. Secondly I didn't think the ending was that farfetched. True it seemed a happy ending, and it was, but you/they all know that the next day they will all go back to what it was before (ignoring eachother and shit). It's like a great party but you know that the next day you'll sober and return to what it was. You never experienced that when you were a teenager? It's like a bubble and the next day it evaporates.

nathalie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 08:45 (sixteen years ago) link

First of, this is a movie, we're not looking for realism.

You realize filmmakers can choose between different aesthetics? In this case they chose to make most of the film in down-key and non-romanticized way, which is why the upbeat, romantic ending feels out place. As for the next day, I'm not so sure about it. Of course the fact that the ending is relatively open lets the viewer decide what happens next day, but the way the last scenes are framed doesn't imply that everything will be the same, rather than that things will actually change. Also, regardless of what happens after ending, the sudden relationship between the goth girl and the jock felt tacked-on, and it was kinda sad that the film seemed to say the only way she can become happy is through conformity.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link

nathalie OTM, i think. i see it not so much as "but in the end... love just solves everything" as "for a night, some teenage approximation of love can make it all so much better". you know it won't last; nothing ever can, not forever. but something has changed, in all of them, and that's what matters.

</cheese>

put it this way: i vastly prefer this happy ending to "it's a wonderful life", which enraged me enormously ... but i stand alone on that one, i think ;)

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

(and yes, i know the happy ending is the whole POINT of IAWL, but i still think it sucks trite dick.)

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

grimly, if IAWL didn't end like it does, anyone who'd sat thru the preceding 2 hours of "hi george bailey, for you life will be an endless accumulation of disappointments and shit" would surely elect to kill themselves!

stevie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno. i kinda thought HEY THIS FILM IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS! and was then bitterly disappointed by all the happiness.

that said: this was many years ago, and i'm less of a miserable fuck these days. still ...

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

LESS BREAKFAST CLUB, MORE CHEETARA HORRORSHOW

HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I love this movie but also agree that the ending is ridiculous, or at least the Ally Sheedy - Emilio Estevez part is ridiculous.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

look all john hughes is saying is that the poor rebel really wants to be wanted by the rich princess and the freaky girl really wants to be wanted by the jock. everyone in high school wants to be rich and popular and pretty. the end.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The sad thing is that it's almost true; everyone in high school wants to be rich and popular and pretty on their own terms.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

That is also true.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

all of which happens almost totally out of blue

According to imdb's front page today:

Universal trimmed nearly an hour off of this classic '80s teen movie, and its writer-director possesses the only complete, uncut version of the film.

So maybe a director's cut will explain what really happened.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ie, poppage

HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck no, i want another solid hour of fascist-teacher lollage

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd love to see a director's cut! I think for most part the interaction between the protagonists was quite interesting for a teen film, it was only the ending that I found kinda silly.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I loved the monologues but they would have been better if they had all been delivered while the characters were dressed as Thundercats.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

What Molly Ringwald does to Ally Sheedy at the end is unforgivable. I wish Ally had stuck a piece of big fucking piece of dandruff in Molly's eye.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

it would be awesome in this movie after they smoke pot Emilio Estivez wrestled with all of the Thundercats

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

oMIGOD THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 07:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I never knew he died! He was brilliant in Trading Places. That "fuck off" while he's on the phone is one of my favourite film moments ever.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 07:28 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

"why are you being so nice to me?"
"cause you're letting me"

cutest exchange ever

Mordy, Friday, 26 February 2010 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...
four years pass...

So Claire just has raw fish sitting around at room temperature for 4 hours in a bag and then eats it??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 24 March 2022 09:41 (two years ago) link

ah, the 80s

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 24 March 2022 11:26 (two years ago) link

c'mon one zap in the microwave and it's hot and fresh and ready to go

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 March 2022 12:02 (two years ago) link


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