Thanks for yr note, Daniel, and yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:45 (two years ago) link
That is, my interest is earnest and not ghastly or lurid.
I'd never question that.
And yup, big figure in that poetry world (you'll have seen the bebr0wed posts - that's where I read about his poetry and found out) & moving over into something more establishment, the Eliotic Anglican thing - one book launch 'in conversation with' the ex-Archbishop of Canterbury.
I can't see myself reading the one I have (Ν1ght Off1ce) again - at best I'd just picking cerebrally or forensically at it, perpetually conscious of his actions (and getting repelled or annoyed by the little courtroom in my head). And there's plenty to read that doesn't involve swimming in this shit - Daniel otm.
― woof, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link
I think there's another argument to be made that you should read it: that by depriving yourself of this incredible poetry that you believe you would really like, you'd be allowing this guy's crimes to drag the world down further, even if only slightly. And it sounds like it's relevant enough to your own writing that it's very possible it could genuinely have a positive impact on your work, so there's a potential ripple effect there.
Daniel OTM too, though - if reading it is going to make you sick to your stomach, obviously you shouldn't feel obligated to subject yourself to that.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link
My current thought is to put it aside, then pick it up if it ever feels right. If that doesn't happen in the next few years, I'll probably put it in a free bin.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
y'know what? fuck talib kweli. wackass motherfucker. i can't believe i ever sought out that cretin's records.
― i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Sunday, 1 January 2023 03:15 (one year ago) link
what now
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 1 January 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link
this?
https://jezebel.com/talib-kweli-is-suing-jezebel-over-emotional-distress-fo-1849390843
― StanM, Sunday, 1 January 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link
why jezebel and not twitter (or pitchfork or anyone else who covered this bullshit)?
wtf is the "certain women" is it just (trans- or general) misogyny or is he pointing at someone(s) specific there?
is there some projected embarrassment or guilt in the "you hurt me by describing my behaviour" or is it just ego and entitlement all the way down? morally (or legally) it shouldn't really matter either way
those lyrics are terrible and even just the act of citing them to prove (?) is unintentionally revealing I think
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 1 January 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link
I didn't realize he's still screaming about that shit.
What a petulant, misogynist child.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
nothing "new" i was just listening to some old reflection eternal stuff and it's all kind of gross knowing what we now know about his attitude towards women. he was so phony on those records. imagine if "brown skin lady" or "love language" came out now - he'd be rightfully taken to task for being a hypocrite.
why jezebel
because it's the one that has a feminine name and he's so blinded by x chromosome hatred tunnel vision that it was his only option.
(okay, that's speculation but doesn't seem like much of a stretch by now)
anyway.
― i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
He like all butthurt Maras weaponized his fanbase against the article writer and the lady on Twitter that he kept harassing on multiple platforms
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 January 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link
Just want to point out that over the past few months we can add Normani and now Chloe Bailey into the list of "promising new r&b talents who will release singles with Chris Brown features" alongside Tinashe, Sevyn Streeter and K.Michelle. People say that he's been #cancelled, but he sold out a Glasgow venue that holds fourteen thousand people, and he's still being used in an attempt to rescue the flailing careers of less-successful upcoming artists. He might not be at Drake/Beyonce megastar levels like he could have potentially rose to, but he's nowhere near as disregarded as you would hope for him to be.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 17 February 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
He just had a Grammy nomination for Best R&B Album, as well
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Friday, 17 February 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
(And apparently had a bad initial reaction to losing)
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Friday, 17 February 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
fuck Chris Brown with a weedwhacker
― castanuts (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2023 22:15 (one year ago) link
I always find it "amazing" when I run into people who think the Rihanna beating was his only transgression *and* that he has been trying to atone for this for years (nope). Overheard a heated conversation about him not long ago where a woman was (rightfully) talking about how ridiculous it is that he still has a career, and the man across from her, a fan, said "I think we have to ask ourselves at one point how long we're willing to shun someone for one act", and the woman about spit her drink out and said "ONE ACT?", and began listing just about every infraction he had committed, the rape accusations, the destroying of the dressing room, etc, and the guy literally appeared to have no knowledge of it.
I don't know HOW that's possible but.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link
tbh this one act and his lack of contrition for it was enough for me by itself anyway
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
I hope that conversation ended with everyone at the bar uppercutting that man
― castanuts (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link
Or shunning him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 February 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link
Liberal thread
― CerebralCaustic, Saturday, 18 February 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link
Shut the fuck up
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 February 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
well that's us told
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 February 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
Liberal thread― CerebralCaustic, Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:52 AM
― CerebralCaustic, Saturday, February 18, 2023 5:52 AM
OP here. am very relieved you made this clear because i was starting to worry folks might think i was becoming a fascist. PHEW — glad that's sorted!
altrenately—
found chris brown's sock ya'll
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Saturday, 18 February 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
"altrenately" is an alternate spelling kind of like color vs colour y'know.
we liberals are poor typists =(
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Saturday, 18 February 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
xpost to beato/youtubers you dig:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnivNajzZ1Efd signifier - "when you can't separate the art from the artist" (video essay, 2024)
(fd doesn't exclusively do music topics, but is excruciatingly otm when he does)
#onethread
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:53 (one month ago) link
sry that opening phrase should have been a link to here.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:55 (one month ago) link