Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

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if i had to pick the most unobjectionable element of those movies, it's definitely mcgregor

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link

genuinely never thought we'd reach a point where there was generalized nostalgia for the phenomenally shitty "first trilogy" but here we are i guess

It's an absolutely real thing, no lie, that for a lot of people who were my age when the originals came out that they're VERY fond of said first trilogy, compounded by The Clone Wars series' impact.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link

Yeah Clone Wars - both the Tartakovsky and Filoni versions - did a lot to redeem the prequels.

I’ll always feel bad for McGregor though for having to utter the line “I have seen a security hologram of him... killing younglings!”

Roz, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:48 (two years ago) link

Eps 4 - 6 look like a war in a war-weary universe

Eps 1- 3 look like a screensaver

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link

Yglesias sucks but he's not wrong in that tweet upthread.

obviously, the reason that plot point doesn't work is because Lucas hadn't worked that part out yet when he wrote the first one, Ben was more or less just observing him from a distance to protect him and possibly recruit him later, not "hiding Luke from the dark side on his father's home planet using his father's actual surname".

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

that's kinda why I get so annoyed with neo-Star Wars gatekeepers who call things "not true Star Wars" on the basis of some plot points that don't line up perfectly, because the OG trilogy was full of holes and contradictions and who actually gives a fuck.

remember leaving the Common Area of my dorm freshman year of college because two groups of about 10-15 people started getting into a heated argument about the Clone Wars, with chairs being overturned and stuff

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 15:59 (two years ago) link

I definitely did not expect the soundtrack to the trailer to lean so heavily on the first trilogy score.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

was hoping it'd be some Marlon Brando sounding guy singing "star warrrr, sta-aa-aar warrrrrs, sta-staaaa-aa-aaar warrrs, sta-aa-arrr wars" to the original theme

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

still haven't finished Fett, mostly because I've never given a fuck about Boba Fett, but I'll get around to it. much more excited for this one, as Obi-Wan deserves a nice reclamation project after what they did to him in the prequels.

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

Just jump to the last three episodes of Fett or, hell, just the last one.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

Not caring about Fett before watching seems to be the easiest path to enjoyment. Watch them all. It's a great series.

pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 March 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link

I just need a weekend where I can actually sit and watch hours of something, and this one might just be it!

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

surfjan otm, that was me — i love star wars but i have never ever given more than two shits about boba fett & i enjoyed the show a lot, chill vibe appreciated imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 March 2022 02:31 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Almost skipped Book of Boba Fett until I found out it ties in to Mandalorian, so good job Star Wars for forcing me to watch everything you make a la Marvel. But it was quite enjoyable! Yes it's ridden with cliches but this was easily as entertaining as the last season of Mando (I mean, it is Mando for half the season). I feel like SW has gotten into a good groove lately, will certainly watch Obi-Wan

Vinnie, Thursday, 31 March 2022 05:41 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

And one further trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yh_6_zItPU

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Okay so we got the Obi-Wan series about the land and next up is the Andor one -- twelve episodes!

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/05/andor-star-wars-series-diego-luna

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

About TO land, etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I was hoping the Andor thing was about the sea.

DJI, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

by andor by sea

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Thought this was out today but two episodes land Friday instead

groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

was hoping for andor to be about the wookiee planet

got a prequel prequel instead

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

You don't like it, there's the (An)door

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

Right, Obi-Wan then.

not really a spoiler but just wanted to note that this show’s opening scene was extremely unfortunate, given recent events :/

Roz, Friday, 27 May 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

Quite, but here we are, sadly.

But phew...hell of a start overall, those two episodes. And canny bastards they got where nearly all of the trailer scenes were from these two episodes.

And of course the one character there wasn't a hint of at all.

And in terms of the featured cast...how you say, a guy known for other things a little more than acting, though obviously has done some acting already. I literally went "Wait is THAT...?!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 May 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

Also while we're at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUGFFxIFym4

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 May 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

@ned i lol’d and i want that action figure

Especially if they make a variant with his more well known persona, only substituting a strapped-on lightsaber for a sock.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 04:45 (one year ago) link

(And seeing the name in the familiar end credits font/backdrop absolutely did my brain in.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 04:45 (one year ago) link

Also lol i thought the same thing re: action playset

yeah man that was a NO WAY moment

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 May 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

Hahah.

"So you want to join our jizz band."

"Well, duh."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

That Andor trailer, BTW, looks pretty fucking amazing. The building out of the Star Wars universe step by step keeps being interesting to me. (Also in how things can start to interconnect: the start of the first Obi-Wan episode also had me going "Hmm and elsewhere in the same building at the same time a little green alien kid is watching his protectors die...")

Worth noting in light of The Acolyte apparently being the first filmed version of the High Republic years that the next publishing initiative announced will be about a hundred years before said time in turn.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link

Anyway, Obi-Wan and the big character reveal we didn't know about beforehand: awesome. She is GOOD. What a smart way to bring the character back. (Even if, as others have noted, that kinda makes her later holographic message to the titular character seem a little stilted...)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link

also if she hung out w him so much back in the day as a kid… how come when she’s grown she only talks to him as her dad’s war buddy? 🤔

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 May 2022 05:58 (one year ago) link

I dug it, but that chase scene in the forest was the cheesiest thing.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 28 May 2022 06:11 (one year ago) link

xpost Exactly my implication, you see. :-D

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 06:19 (one year ago) link

Hey if you're being chased in a forest by a rock star, is it cheese or their latest video?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 06:20 (one year ago) link

i wish they had released that 5 minute recap theatrically back in the day, sparing me the disappointment of three entire prequels

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 May 2022 06:23 (one year ago) link

It was interesting seeing all that with wholly new not-John Williams music over it that also worked. It really changed the emphasis of a lot of it!

I think 'us' as older fans coming to terms with how a younger generation has had the prequels, and then the Clone Wars et al as further supplements, as part and parcel of the whole story in their experience really is kinda key. A 51 year old like me just experienced what 'Star Wars' is supposed to be in a much different fashion.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 May 2022 06:26 (one year ago) link

much better less boring fashion
the younger generation can keep their galactic taxation sagas imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 May 2022 06:37 (one year ago) link

McGregor the only good thing about this for me. That precocious little kid and her awkward line readings? The unfunny Kumail Nanjani? Flea? No thanks. Pretty bad, I thought.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 May 2022 08:35 (one year ago) link

*Nanjiani

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 May 2022 08:37 (one year ago) link

Also SW takes place in the batteries not included universe, apparently

Is Lola a flying Sony Discman?

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 May 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

lol how was I thinking “hey, I recognize that guy!“ the whole time and not recognizing Flea

mh, Saturday, 28 May 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

That was me too

and yes my teen son knows the prequels much better than he knows eps 4-6 and is super stoked for this, for him mcgregor is the real obiwan

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 28 May 2022 19:38 (one year ago) link

is this Hong Kong planet the place OW was buzzing around with Anakin at the start of episode 2?

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 29 May 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link

if i goes on Wookiepedia I'll be up all night

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 29 May 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

ep 1 a mixed bag for me, the lead bad guy was menacing enough, the kid made it pretty hard to watch, obi-wan actually a pretty boring character? probably a nil-all draw i guess, will invest in ep 2 (who am i kidding, if I watched the boba fett show i will watch anything with the SW logo)

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Sunday, 29 May 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link


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