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If they can make up for full in office with significant pay then maybe …otherwise they got some learnin coming to them

calstars, Friday, 11 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link

“Solomon has risked looking like a Neanderthal as remote work has gone mainstream worldwide.

can't he just hide the pillow which is easy with a blurred background like our Neanderthal?

sarahell, Friday, 11 March 2022 20:12 (two years ago) link

lol

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link

Love to be reminded that "work from home is not permitted" while my boss is... working from home. For the third time in two weeks.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 March 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link

that's always how it is (in other words, bullshit). one of my old bosses told all of the WFH staff years ago that they had to come in one day per week, while she stayed home all five most of the time.

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link

my boss lives in another state and would "like" us to come in a few times a week. He is lucky to get one out of me and even then no one even notices the difference because I deal with a sales staff that works out in the field across the US.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 11 March 2022 20:31 (two years ago) link

feel like these bosses deserve the Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator 2 "why?" treatment

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link

or the Marlo Stanfield approach, "you want it to be one way. But it's the other way."

sarahell, Saturday, 12 March 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

Ok here’s one annoyance of virtual meetings: if someone set up an 8:30 am face to face meeting in the past, the organizer(s) would feel guilty enough to at least bring coffee and donuts to the meeting as a sort of make-up gesture. With virtual meetings, the coffee is mine and I have no donuts :(

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 March 2022 15:05 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

i had my first day in the office today, just once a week for now. i don't understand why i have to do this. i have that dehydrated exhausted office feeling. it took me 1 hr 20 to get there. i missed early bird parking by 3 minutes. i could not log into the desk phone. a guy left 10 minutes after i got there because his wife tested positive for covid and another is home because his whole family has it. i do not wish to wear office clothing or any shoes at all.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link

what is "early bird parking"

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

I’m guessing a discount on the fees in a parking garage for arriving early enough?

Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

oh right, thank you. i had completely forgotten about that concept.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

haha yeah, sorry

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

lol nothing to be sorry for, i've been going to suburban offices for wayyyy too long

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

the early bird gets the parking, or senior dinner discount

mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

sorry to hear that, harbl. hope you guys are able to show you don't need to go in even if it's only once a week

this is truly a massive "first-world problem" but the one obstacle i've run into is that i can't always work from anywhere that's not home because we can only connect to the VPN from one IP (usually our home IP), so i can't connect to different servers and codebases and stuff. luckily i don't always need to connect to the VPN, but i still need to plan around that stuff when i'm not home

Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link

the early bird gets the parking, or senior dinner discount

Yes, that is the other use of the term!

Wile E. Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

I've been going barefoot around the house for 2+ years, I think I'm physically transforming into something older, more primitive

I also barely wear my eyeglasses unless I'm leaving the house

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 26 May 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

got my second recognition in two months for the work I've done despite juggling my dad/mom's health issues.

no matter what issues I have with my company, my department is incredible and without them being supportive, I would have had a complete nervous breakdown.

it probably helps that both my boss and boss's boss are caretaking their parents right now, though. we have a caretaker chat going.

Glad you have some support at work, I feel that’s rare these days.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 July 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

in my previous job (same company), the project lead's boyfriend was in the hospital for heart-related issues, and all the implementation manager did was grouse at how this was inconveniencing the project and demanding to know how long she'd be out.

that was when I made the firm decision to leave, and I made a lot of noise on my way out of the department.

There is no "my boyfriend is in the hospital" in "team."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 July 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

I feel like that was the last time in my life I was any form of assertive. I now have an Implementation Manager, Account Executive, and Director who hate me and won't talk to me ever again. 2017 was wild.

Congrats Neadnerthal, that's good news!

After I had already put in my notice at a previous job, I stopped by the HR office to fill out some paperwork and overheard one of the partners telling our exasperated HR person, "that's too bad, but I've triple-checked our policies and 'boyfriend' is not listed anywhere so tell her she just needs to get back to work". I didn't really need much more confirmation by that point, but really made me happy with my decision.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 July 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

Project’s lead boyfriend

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 July 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

Glad your work has your back Neanderthal. That kind of behaviour should be normal, not special.

At my workplace I just had to beg to get one of my managees compassionate leave for flying halfway across the world to see their dad while he has a risky tumour surgery. Meanwhile the workplace demands overtime up the wazoo, at late notice. Cunts. I did get my team member’s compassionate leave in the end, at least.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

glad you did, and I'm sure they're appreciative.

it's amazing what is treated like an inconvenience.

"Hi, what's up? Huh? Both kidneys? How long you think you'll need? Wait, what, every week? Oooh, I'm not sure if that's going to work. How long do you think you'll live without it? Oh? Oh that's great, that's long enough for you to train your replacement. Hello? Hello?"

My last workplace gave me three weeks paid leave to go to Canada when my partner’s parent was sick! Like it was nothing. And it wasn’t even my parent! This sort of thing shouldn’t be hard.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 July 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

I am sure chronic depression and acute anxiety are not the best career advisors. But right now I want to go back to an office, just to get out of my apartment.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 14 July 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

I am sure chronic depression and acute anxiety are not the best career advisors. But right now I want to go back to an office, just to get out of my apartment.

― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, July 13, 2022 5:28 PM (three days ago

<3 i had these feelings a little while ago ... felt like Catherine Deneuve in Repulsion at one point

I am glad that those of you that have humane colleagues and HR systems ... have those things. ... a new thing I realized about working from home is: that my colleague assumes that I could go to a worksite with as little notice as if I was working in an office, however, because I am at home, I am most often not dressed to go out and look like a professional person in our line of work, and I actually have to take idk at least 10 minutes to get dressed, etc.

sarahell, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

this past week was the least "work from home" in a while -- we had 3 walk-throughs and 3 inspections and had to go in person to the City building at least once, and this was a week where my colleague had to mind his 5 year-old kid for at least half the work day ... I had to remind myself that this is actually better than being bored or the slow crazy of isolation

sarahell, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

I actually voluntarily spent an extra half day in the office last week, I think I'm just lonely tbh

thinkmanship (sleeve), Saturday, 16 July 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

there's definitely been days where I wanted to do it, but ever since the pandemic, my company has sold more and more of the floors of the office t where we only own a third of it now, so there's fewer places to sit. also when I moved in to help the folks, I went from like, ten minutes away from it to like 30-40.

other problem is I only have two colleagues that live in Orlando and they don't go in, most of my old friends quit or terminated years ago (problem of sticking somewhere for almost 18 years, that happens!). but....sometimes the quiet in that office is oddly peaceful, because my problem is there's *too much* going on in my home.

I think my perspective is a wee bit diff from the people I know who only started remoting during the pandemic, as I'd been doing it for ten years. truth be told, it's probably good I don't have access to those snack machines lmao.

I have a personal rule about not making big life-changing decisions when drunk, high, depressed, or anxious.

As a result I pretty much never make big life-changing decisions. I think this is for the best.

Ymmv

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 July 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

I am supervising a 210 person class that is being broken into six classes of 35 each simultaneously, which originally I thought was going to be my only assignment for a while. It's going to be tough as it's a mega customized assignment with a new partner site that we have no prior relationship with.

they just tossed another SEVEN assignments on top of me, so that the week of 8/8, I will have THIRTEEN goddamn classes going on simultaneously (24 people I'm supervising). I've never had more than 10 at one time, and those had staggered start dates, whereas these are all starting on top of each other.

I waved the white flag to say "what the fuck", as nobody else on my team has half of this workload - the most anybody else has is 7, AND they have a partner helping them! This isn't even the type of work you can make up by working overtime, you have to be available to oversee these classes between 9 am - 5:30 pm ET, like I flat out am going to have to ignore half of them on any given day.

what does this have to do with working from home? they can't see me flipping them off since i'm at home. lol

They made us all come back to the office three days a week. Now we're moving to another floor for the fourth time in a year.

nashwan, Thursday, 21 July 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

Corporate sent a passive-aggressive email a couple weeks back about people not adhering to their “committed” days in office per week that people enter in, March or whatever, when expectations about the environment were different. I think a fair bit is estimating facilities needs, which is a shitshow because they own or semi-permanently lease. A couple buildings are in-person physical labor of a sort on one floor and office space above so they’re stuck. The other, more present thing, is high level people who think their subordinates — think actual high level functionaries — should be where they are and are short-circuiting at a lack of exec camaraderie, read: leaning on people

mh, Friday, 22 July 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link

they should be happy their subordinates aren’t demanding 25-hr workweeks…. yet

Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 July 2022 04:55 (one year ago) link

what does this have to do with working from home? they can't see me flipping them off since i'm at home. lol

― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, July 21, 2022 12:59 PM (yesterday)

seriously, zoom meetings where you can have your camera off are a true blessing for me, because no one can see me rolling my eyes and scoffing ... earlier this week, I attended an info/feedback session for City regulations around parklets (primarily design/construction guidelines and permitting).

Invariably, the city did their presentation, opened it up for questions, and one of the questions was about street closures. This meeting was about parklets, not street closures. The lead guy from the City reiterates that this meeting isn't about street closures. Street closure guy of course needs to fully express himself regarding the subject of street closures, and how he wanted to continue having his street closure. ... I am definitely glad no one is seeing my face at this point. ... Then I and another person get to ask questions that are actually about parklets ... Then the next guy, has his business on the same block as the street closure guy, and wants to reiterate how great their street closure is, and that they want to keep it. ... I was definitely in flip off mode at that point. And, I really don't miss attending government meetings in person.

sarahell, Friday, 22 July 2022 07:16 (one year ago) link

we had a meeting where they basically said we should be coming back into the buildings more because they are expensive. which seems to be a bad argument. buildings are expensive whether people are in them or not. and if there's a desire for people to wfh more then there's scope for even fewer buildings. (the've already sold off the top two floors of the building we used to occupy before, to a competitor, no less.)

koogs, Friday, 22 July 2022 08:00 (one year ago) link

This article a couple of weeks ago added fuel to my fears that many CEOs are just biding their time and waiting for the next recession to tighten the screws on letting people WFH: Why CEOs are so WTF about WFH

o. nate, Friday, 22 July 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

I feel my public speaking is suffering because I do it all from home now. in my old job, although I still was mostly WFH, I went to the office frequently during trainings, client meetings, etc, so I was presenting in front of people.

I am getting tongue tied more often now, finding I also hate the sound of my own voice. some of that is also my anxiety/stress levels lately, but it's disheartening as this is one of my strongest skills and it's eroding fast.

even stuttering now, which was never a problem for me previously. I find I have to slow myself down in those moments.

I, too, have some issues with the sound of my voice and there was one person on a zoom call where there was enough of a lag (bluetooth speaker?) in their zoom session the other day that I ended up hearing a quiet echo of what I just said a moment later. Not a big fan.

mh, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

oh yeah I can't do that at all. the echo renders me unable to speak usually.

Our own voices are uniquely terrible. I however have heard an mh and he has a familiar and friendly voice. I bet it’s the same for you, Neanderthal!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 28 July 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

a very satisfying read

Part of the problem is that the collegial, purpose-driven office that senior leaders idealize feels like a myth to many young workers. Since long before Covid-19, most offices weren’t delivering the mentoring, collaboration and social fabric that makes in-person work feel worthwhile. Indeed, many of the offices I visited in recent years were desolate, open plan landscapes dotted with individuals staring at screens, headphones on.

"Shut the fuck up! I am sorry, but shut the fuck up! I cannot stand this garbage. It “feels like a myth” because it never fucking existed, and you are a con artist if you suggest otherwise! One anecdotal example of a good office does not replace the tens of thousands of different offices that suck, and you can’t even come up with one! Your example is so fucking rotten that your anecdotal evidence works against the point you’re trying to make! "

https://ez.substack.com/p/privilege-and-pro-office-pablum

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Monday, 8 August 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

lol, it is purpose-driven for the senior leaders because it is fulfilling their purposes. They feel gratified and that it is worthwhile because it reinforces their egos, their power ... not that of the plebes that are pretty much only there because they need the money and they'd prefer not to have to do manual labor.

sarahell, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link


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