Hey. It's ok for people to make shitty posts.
Likewise, it's ok for people to complain about shitty posts.
It's the marketplace of "oh dear"s
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 08:48 (two years ago) link
That's a lovely thought for this board posted on this board, but what advice have you got for my reddit men who are LIVE?
― pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 March 2022 08:55 (two years ago) link
Should I complain here when the guu fails to bend a whole tone?
― pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 March 2022 08:56 (two years ago) link
Or should I tell him on reddit?
You can complain where you like!
Like if you want a fight, go and complain to them direct
But if you wanna roll eyes and not have a fight, do it here
Or anybody can just think thoughts of things they think are bad if they don't want anybody to know
It would be great to think everything's good, maybe, but we're human, maybe only Buddhas enjoy everything in the cosmos
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:01 (two years ago) link
Every time I scroll reddit, there is either a fat man playing guitar LIVE or a skinny mustachioed man twiddling knobs LIVE. I dread the morning because i know i will open reddit and always find one of these two men. Which will it be tomorrow? Fat fractional tone bend man? Or skinny knob turning fella with text "BRITTLEBABY" in the footer? Where are the fucking slack channels that will solve this problem for me!? I can handle any posted text on this messageboard.
― wins, Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:10 (two years ago) link
Look, everybody shits. Most flush it away for proper treatment and handling. Some put it in the cheerios box and pray nobody in this particular house eats breakfast.
― pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:11 (two years ago) link
I'm going to go serious for a minute
The slack people have gotten upset about was announced and advertised on ilx lots and lots of times.
It doesn't have secret membership requirements, anybody can sign up.
It isn't a googleable place of permanent record.
99% of it is people talking about positive stuff they enjoy and supporting each other thru covid and other shit
Anybody who's come along has been welcomed. Whether they chose to stay welcomed has been on them, far as I can tell
One difference to ilx maybe is people generally talk to each other as people and not as an audience for shtick
There is one channel on the slack where some of the members including me complain and laugh and take the piss out of ilx posters and posts that grind our gears
God knows how many other places on the internet or in real life people do same
If people genuinely feel that ilx would be improved by everybody straight calling everybody else on their bullshit all the time, well, I think we tried that and I think the consensus was it wasn't so great
If people genuinely think nobody should ever chat shit about a person, a persona, or a post they think is mean or asinine then great, god speed, I do not know how you wanna police that
Most people I find are better for knowing but sometimes there are limits and maybe for all of us we have people who are better for avoiding
That's my rant, say what you like about it, here, somewhere else, or in your head. I give no fucks
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:26 (two years ago) link
I am going to discuss this with Ricky
― pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:30 (two years ago) link
Last one wasn't aimed at you btw Sufjan, it was for everybody
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:42 (two years ago) link
No, i know. I think you are great btw, and I am certainly not above chatting shit about people. But I hope you can eventually see how what you described seems like a bad idea. I think it'd be better kept private if anywhere tbh. But I also get that there's a side of ilx that's more irl close. And it all makes more sense and seems less nefarious in that context.
― pickle loaf (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:51 (two years ago) link
Sunday, March 13, 2022 1:54 AM I Love AFL User: pickle loaf has been banned from thread: ADMIN LOG WATCH 2.
― Depeche Mod, Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:55 (two years ago) link
I think we've always wavered about whether it's a good idea or not. Lot of slackers don't engage at all with it. I don't think it's much different to what happened in the old AIM era but anyway, I'm sad that other people feel hurt. While I'm doing full honesty I have to say I'm sad and a bit annoyed that one or two people felt the need to stir shit up by fussing about those separate conversations on ilx over and over
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 09:56 (two years ago) link
So there’s a second hidden ILX where you secretly shit all over people on the normal ILX? Classy.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 13 March 2022 10:36 (two years ago) link
More than one, I think? Me and pinefox should start our own board where we can talk about stuff on the internet and elsewhere that everyone else knows about but we've never heard of (wtf is Slack?)
― Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 March 2022 10:44 (two years ago) link
that sounds like something somebody who had a secret board with pinefox would say
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 10:45 (two years ago) link
This is a bit disingenuous. The existence of an ilxor Slack will come as a surprise to some, it was to me. I’m still not sure how to get in, or if the address has been made public and clear. I am not exactly sure the way it has been handled fosters a feeling of inclusion.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 13 March 2022 10:51 (two years ago) link
And it’s different than say the ilxor fantasy baseball yahoo group in that it seems that users and posts are being actively discussed on the slack. It’s never a nice feeling to learn that you have been discussed by a group without your knowledge, Neanderthal is absolutely right to react the way he is.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 13 March 2022 10:54 (two years ago) link
it's alright, i'll happily call you a smug empty apologist for western hegemony to your face right here
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:00 (two years ago) link
Well that escalated quickly.
Peace.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:06 (two years ago) link
oh it’s been a long time coming i think
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:13 (two years ago) link
i don’t know about anyone else but if i got on NV’s bad side i’d need to go have a word with myself tbh
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:14 (two years ago) link
oh stop it you, i'm horrible
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:17 (two years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 13 March 2022 bookmarkflaglink
From a warmonger.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link
the idea is to talk shit about posters behind their backs to protect their feelings (lol ok) but to also do so via a medium all posters have free access to and can come and go as they please? how is that actually different from just doing it in front of their face, other than being incredibly stupid
― ✖, Sunday, 13 March 2022 12:21 (two years ago) link
it's whichever one you want it to be, just like selectively reading the bits of posts that you feel like acknowledging
― Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 13 March 2022 12:55 (two years ago) link
i could've extended either quote multiple paragraphs both ways and responded exactly the same
ftr i genuinely do think that things people can't say directly to someone's face here probably aren't worth stating privately, i've never even liked the "posts you had a second thought about" thread for that reason. say it or don't. maybe it's a natural impulse but i would hope a bunch of median age 42s have something better to do with their time by now, the older this place gets the more embarrassing the petty high school drama becomes
but if people are going to insist on shit talking off board then maybe actually make an attempt to keep it private? gossiping 101 would teach not to leave a transcript of your shit talk in the break room if you don't want the subject to stumble on it
― ✖, Sunday, 13 March 2022 13:08 (two years ago) link
Was gonna say aren’t we like all old now? This shit is really lame
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 13 March 2022 13:36 (two years ago) link
in my day ppl stopped being interested in other ppl when they reached the age of 23, better times tbh
― mark s, Sunday, 13 March 2022 13:48 (two years ago) link
when I were young, an "admin log" was the oaken paddle my social betters used to administer beatings to those whose deficiencies demanded them
― rob, Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:04 (two years ago) link
median age 42
FUCK
― flow, my crimson tears (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link
Too low?
― Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 March 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link
aye
today on SNA: Jeopardy, crossword puzzles, Nancy, Wordle, Marvelous Mrs Maisel, obituaries
― rob, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:01 (two years ago) link
There's a bunch of very young people that me and another poster have been trying to lure over here--all of whom have seemingly been genetically designed to be great ILXors.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:02 (two years ago) link
No luck, though.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link
how young is "very young"?
― rob, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link
i genuinely do think that things people can't say directly to someone's face here probably aren't worth stating privately
This is going to sound mean, I'm aware, but I'm kind of surprised anyone could get to 21, let alone 42, and think that - it's just not how people operate, in my experience. I mean, the reason that there's an ILE is that ILM was founded first, but people won't stop discussing other things and each other.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link
I'd like an invite to the Slack. I've been here long enough.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link
same!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link
One of my new year resolutions was to continually search for ever more novel reasons to feel shitty about myself about.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link
I'm not on it, but there's a 77 thread ("slack77") about it which might be the best way to ask?
― rob, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:15 (two years ago) link
Because that's perhaps what irks me most about it: if it's so public and open to any ilxor who wants to be on it, then why have some of us been kept in the dark about it?
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:15 (two years ago) link
xp Late teens (about the same age crut and lj were when they first started posting here) to late twenties.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link
Thanks Rob.
For the record I'm with Alfred, I am fine with just posting here.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link
J0rdan S., donna rouge, Stevie, surm, and myself also all started in our late teens and early twenties, fwiw.
I would like to attract more young folks to ILX too, fwiw
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:18 (two years ago) link
very young people that me and another poster have been trying to lure over here
Antiquated internet message board shut down in luring scandal
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:19 (two years ago) link
lol
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link
if people are going to insist on shit talking off board then maybe actually make an attempt to keep it private?
Honestly, this makes the most sense to me. I do think there is a time for private venting, but if it's not actually private then doesn't that make it pointless? Not saying the slack is pointless or directing any ire to it, but it doesn't feel pleasant knowing that there is a whole dedicated group for slagging people off.
And me also.
― emil.y, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:08 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
How's there any comparison between a slack with a very limited and clearly denoted userbase and an ilx board that sits right next to the other one? People don't even shit talk each other in 77 afaict, at least as long as I've had access to it. Maybe they did in the past
My understanding of the slack - admittedly limited as I've only heard about its existence through occasional whispers in the wind during a certain phase of the moon on a hot summer's night - comments were/are being made under the assumption that the posters in question wouldn't see them.
I'm not saying people should never talk about other posters as people or acknowledge that they exist as people. I'm not saying people should do anything except learn to keep their shit talk private if they want it to be private.
― ✖, Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:34 (two years ago) link
Yes, emil.y! Glad to know there are others who've been here a while, I just have a hard time remembering who, plus there were the 7 years that I lurked and hardly posted.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 March 2022 15:34 (two years ago) link