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how young is "very young"?

i genuinely do think that things people can't say directly to someone's face here probably aren't worth stating privately

This is going to sound mean, I'm aware, but I'm kind of surprised anyone could get to 21, let alone 42, and think that - it's just not how people operate, in my experience. I mean, the reason that there's an ILE is that ILM was founded first, but people won't stop discussing other things and each other.

I'd like an invite to the Slack. I've been here long enough.

same!

One of my new year resolutions was to continually search for ever more novel reasons to feel shitty about myself about.

I'm not on it, but there's a 77 thread ("slack77") about it which might be the best way to ask?

Because that's perhaps what irks me most about it: if it's so public and open to any ilxor who wants to be on it, then why have some of us been kept in the dark about it?

xp Late teens (about the same age crut and lj were when they first started posting here) to late twenties.

Thanks Rob.

For the record I'm with Alfred, I am fine with just posting here.

J0rdan S., donna rouge, Stevie, surm, and myself also all started in our late teens and early twenties, fwiw.

I would like to attract more young folks to ILX too, fwiw

very young people that me and another poster have been trying to lure over here

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lol

if people are going to insist on shit talking off board then maybe actually make an attempt to keep it private?

Honestly, this makes the most sense to me. I do think there is a time for private venting, but if it's not actually private then doesn't that make it pointless? Not saying the slack is pointless or directing any ire to it, but it doesn't feel pleasant knowing that there is a whole dedicated group for slagging people off.

J0rdan S., donna rouge, Stevie, surm, and myself also all started in our late teens and early twenties, fwiw.

And me also.

This is going to sound mean, I'm aware, but I'm kind of surprised anyone could get to 21, let alone 42, and think that - it's just not how people operate, in my experience. I mean, the reason that there's an ILE is that ILM was founded first, but people won't stop discussing other things and each other.

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:08 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

How's there any comparison between a slack with a very limited and clearly denoted userbase and an ilx board that sits right next to the other one? People don't even shit talk each other in 77 afaict, at least as long as I've had access to it. Maybe they did in the past

My understanding of the slack - admittedly limited as I've only heard about its existence through occasional whispers in the wind during a certain phase of the moon on a hot summer's night - comments were/are being made under the assumption that the posters in question wouldn't see them.

I'm not saying people should never talk about other posters as people or acknowledge that they exist as people. I'm not saying people should do anything except learn to keep their shit talk private if they want it to be private.

Yes, emil.y! Glad to know there are others who've been here a while, I just have a hard time remembering who, plus there were the 7 years that I lurked and hardly posted.

My understanding of the slack - admittedly limited as I've only heard about its existence through occasional whispers in the wind during a certain phase of the moon on a hot summer's night - comments were/are being made under the assumption that the posters in question wouldn't see them.

your understanding is wrong

ian has been here since a wee bairn as well

I've been on longer than most of the name posters here--August 2001. I was 31 then, and I'm 51 now. This feels kind of weird to me.

Wait how do you find out how long you've been here??! Off I go to see if it's in my profile....gulp.

Yeah, I mean I was barely 21 when I started posting. Gonna be 38 this year.

it was a magical night in late 2003 when i first joined ILM hoping to pick up some sweet Gaz Coombes chat

i thought crut was like 12 when he joined?

I started posting here in 2005 iirc, but only started "posting a lot" when my local board went to seed

Which dn is Conner Smedley posting under now

I think crut was 15? I know lj was 17.

your understanding is wrong

― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:38 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not talking about the entire slack if that's how you're reading it, I'm talking about what NV was referring to above, the channel of complaining and laughing at and taking the piss out of posters and posts etc

If that really isn't as it sounds then strike me from the record but clearly at least one person has taken it personally

that’s not how i was reading it.

xp I did a web search a long time ago to find my earliest post.

that’s not how i was reading it.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:51 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel free to enlighten me any time you want, or just keep doing this. I guess you're confident that everyone involved was using that channel as if it it were as visible as ILE?

Yeah sorry it is incredibly disingenuous to pretend that we all knew about this secret ILX Slack.

Half the people complaining are mad that the slack isn't more private and half are mad it's not more public. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, COME BE A PART OF IT. But we have group norms and people will say something if you're a jerk, because we're all people sharing our emotional selves in real time to each other. Jesus christ it's not that complicated.

It's a conversation. If you can't imagine what the norms for that are, may I refer the reader to the mIRC era or whatever your preferred online dosage was. Mine was chatrooms, which is what slack basically is as far as I can tell?

Thanks for the info.

Ffs I didn't even know the admin thread existed until yesterday, this is a lot of meta.

Still can't find out how to join it.

Because that's perhaps what irks me most about it: if it's so public and open to any ilxor who wants to be on it, then why have some of us been kept in the dark about it?

I'm not on there, but the slack was advertised publicly on threads back when it was created I believe? Fair enough not everyone reads every thread, but don't think there was any effort for anyone to be kept in the dark.

Yet no one will tell me how to join it.

Lmfao

should we just delete ilx and refer every1 to the slack?

You see? Keep posting "just come join the Slack" and "it's actually not mostly about dunking on people" and then don't give any further information. Really inspires confidence that it's not just some cliquish BS.

I dunno how to join either, as I said, I didn't join. Just saying it wasn't created in secret.

yeah sorry, given some of the personal stuff i’ve put on slack vs. the current tenor here, i’m not sharing the link

Yeah, wasn't trying to single you out, Daniel, mostly just trying to figure out how to join it from in orbit and etc.

Ah, so it isn't a public Slack, then.

Feel free to enlighten me any time you want, or just keep doing this. I guess you're confident that everyone involved was using that channel as if it it were as visible as ILE?

i mean it would be pretty dumb for people to say repeatedly that the slack was open to all and then make an assumption that stuff posted there would stay hidden forever.

and i’m just going to say this once but this was all started by someone who was on the slack and from my perspective not adhering to community standards, who then chose to take their grievance back here and claim that no, it was in fact everyone else who was acting in bad faith.

You all seem to be willfully confusing secretive with people valuing their privacy.

reminds me of the controversy when 77 was first created

"It isn't a secret Slack, anyone can join."

"Actually we need to protect the privacy of everyone on the Slack."

lmao.

I'm not saying people should do anything except learn to keep their shit talk private if they want it to be private.

― ✖, Sunday, March 13, 2022 11:34 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is a good point. It sucks to see someone get hurt as happened today.

i just want slack users to promise they'll post a lot to ilx too, because i really don't need to adopt another platform just to maintain the meager substitution for a social fabric that ilx gives me.