ADMIN LOG WATCH 2

people can have their burn book but don't leave it open. it's a matter of etiquette.

it's not dedicated to privately complaining about ilx posts ... unless all of the conversations about gardening and cats is really a very secret complex code that is only available to an elite few. It sucks that people have that impression. The ratio of meta complaining is probably smaller than on ilx itself.

There is nowhere dedicated to complaining about ilx but there is a slack that was formed at the start of the pandemic by ilxors. There is also a discord and a private Facebook group just called ILX; I know of one Facebook messenger chat but there may be others; bitd there were aim chatz aiui; there are also FAPs and DMs and probably dozens of other ilx related backchannels

In every single one of these a small percentage of time will be spent talking about the message board ppl have in common, which posters you like & which send you up the wall (it’s almost never unanimous)

This is not really the issue

a specific ilxor decided to act out a grudge against another ilxor by repeatedly drawing negative attention to the slack in such a way that a third ilxor (entirely unrelated to the beef in question) was drawn to look and got badly hurt

the specific ilxor exactly wanted something like this to happen and didn't give a tiny fvck abt the consequences to many others (including the third ilxor)

there are several issues

I would not conflate the ILX Slack that is named "ILX" with the numerous private channels of communication out there.

i think i only noticed a few of the "negative attention" posts and probably wasn't reading the threads that formed the pattern for this ... but I remembered the slack being started as a "stay sane during covid" thing, and I never thought of it as a secret borad, probably because i haven't been paying attention?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OutDgLmx-SQ

it just is not a knitting club for people to sit around and discuss their feelings in a private safe space

it is a public forum that is easily accessible and everyone knows about

i mean, whatever.

Where do you Slack champions find the time to not only write a ton of posts but also write on the other's posters ton of posts? The absolute misery of this is astounding. It's just pitiful at this point.

the above youtube video is the official youtube video representing the thread ADMIN LOG WATCH 2 in March 2022

So, this place has nothing to do with AFL then?

Blimey, you think you know ILX.....

a public not secret board you need a private address and password to access but an otherwise normal place for everyone

Well ito the non “locked down” nature of the slack there is sort of a comedy of errors aspect there in that normally slack messages disappear after a certain point so everyone was posting on the understanding that this was all ephemeral, and it just so happened that this latest fuckery took place during a 1-month free trial of slack premium, literally the only time the archives will be searchable

ppl also, I think understandably, were posting with the assumption that after 2 years anyone who wanted to take part would have joined and nobody would be cunty enough to repeatedly draw their attention to it

So I don’t think it’s that different to the many other channels where ppl are talking about ppl

"Cor blimey, I'm off"

can you delete the archives now though? at least for that one thread?

I have no idea I’m not the boss of slack

I guess it doesn’t matter. Whatever. I wish everyone well.

same to you, man

it appears I was to blame for the aforementioned instagram screenshot snafu. I don't know if I thought it was a public account or I was just being inconsiderate. either way, that was inappropriate and I apologize.

ok, thank you for apologizing. maybe not a big deal, it just felt invasive reading that in the archives.

should i feel guilty for commenting on the memetic nature of treesh's dog?

i didn't see anything about that in the slack

also depends on context. like in this comment thread people were very clearly making fun of me while prying on developments in my personal life. it wasn't just like "oh so and so is _______, good for him" or whatever.

like whatever. water and bridge.

i realize too it is some kind of mistake that these archives were let loose.

so whatever.

i like the new beach house album by the way. just to bring this website back to its roots.

treesh, where'd you find the Slack link?

Otherwise, just post the derogatory comments from that thread here.

I want the Discord invite myself. I was told one didn't exist.

i don't know what "KM is the real problem for starting this" is that supposed to do for the people who are going into chat and finding these things, or people who are worried about what's been said about them. the channel still contains what it contains. if this was truly a public server that anyone could've joined then what's happening now would've happened eventually. not trying to drag this on longer it just sounds like such a deflection when people are being hurt by this

Why would it have happened eventually? Like if the argument is “someone else would have pointed ppl towards stuff they might find hurtful out of malice” it would be on that someone else

I am going to pass the buck (sorry for American) to site mods and tell everyone posting about this slack issue to move that conversation to this ILE thread:

Call out ILXors you don't enjoy to their face right here then, come on, let's have it

I have limited mod powers and can't delete posts to this thread. I also don't want to potentially abuse my lowly subboard mod authority by being overly punitive to what some ilxors might feel is an okay discussion.

My mod powers do allow me to threadban posters from this thread ... so anyone seriously posting about the slack / off-board criticism of other ilxors on this thread will get a yellow card and then a thread ban

I am also posting as me for the sake of transparency and seriousness

thank u sarahell

So basically it’s morally fine to have a secret club where you go through people’s private lives and sneer about them, the only person who is bad is the person who points out you’re doing it. Great, good to know. You fucking people.

it was never secret, but hey keep judging

Fucking Special People’s Bullying Club arseholes.

Never secret except that lots of regular posters had never been told about it.

not for lack of trying!

And I’m sure the fact that you knew those people didn’t know about it gave you the freedom to shit on them, so forget your “not a secret” bullshit.

Quarantine Hangouts

Neanderthal was actually a slack member and could have posted there at any time, FYI

it is actually pretty spot on ilx for people to inverse how strong their opinions are with how little they know about a topic.

lol

Ok, no, great, this is all cool, you have opened my eyes.

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sym otm

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just to be clear -- the yellow cards are for continuing to post about something in this thread that the mod (me) had posted not to do. The yellow cards were not inflammatory, just like "hey, chill, take the discussion to ILE" ... I also thread banned Sufjan Grafton last night after a series of posts on the same topic that seemed to be not going to a good place.

If anyone wants to critique my moderation please do so here

Sounds eminently reasonable to me. I mean, yellow cards are more often used for the lols, so actually using them for a proper purpose is good modding imo.

this is like the first time i haven't just modded lol posts for lols so ... i'm kinda insecure?

It's a pretty stressful situation atm but you've handled it well. Nothing wrong with asking people to move over to one of the main boards if you're not comfortable with the discussion being here. I'm fucking terrified every time I do anything mod-like, honestly.