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i don't know what "KM is the real problem for starting this" is that supposed to do for the people who are going into chat and finding these things, or people who are worried about what's been said about them. the channel still contains what it contains. if this was truly a public server that anyone could've joined then what's happening now would've happened eventually. not trying to drag this on longer it just sounds like such a deflection when people are being hurt by this

Why would it have happened eventually? Like if the argument is “someone else would have pointed ppl towards stuff they might find hurtful out of malice” it would be on that someone else

I am going to pass the buck (sorry for American) to site mods and tell everyone posting about this slack issue to move that conversation to this ILE thread:

Call out ILXors you don't enjoy to their face right here then, come on, let's have it

I have limited mod powers and can't delete posts to this thread. I also don't want to potentially abuse my lowly subboard mod authority by being overly punitive to what some ilxors might feel is an okay discussion.

My mod powers do allow me to threadban posters from this thread ... so anyone seriously posting about the slack / off-board criticism of other ilxors on this thread will get a yellow card and then a thread ban

I am also posting as me for the sake of transparency and seriousness

thank u sarahell

So basically it’s morally fine to have a secret club where you go through people’s private lives and sneer about them, the only person who is bad is the person who points out you’re doing it. Great, good to know. You fucking people.

it was never secret, but hey keep judging

Fucking Special People’s Bullying Club arseholes.

Never secret except that lots of regular posters had never been told about it.

not for lack of trying!

And I’m sure the fact that you knew those people didn’t know about it gave you the freedom to shit on them, so forget your “not a secret” bullshit.

Quarantine Hangouts

Neanderthal was actually a slack member and could have posted there at any time, FYI

it is actually pretty spot on ilx for people to inverse how strong their opinions are with how little they know about a topic.

lol

Ok, no, great, this is all cool, you have opened my eyes.

Who is the Bad Art Friend?

sym otm

User has been yellow carded.

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Sunday, March 13, 2022 5:45 PM Site Van Horn Street has been banned permanently. 21 FPs in 48 hours.
Sunday, March 13, 2022 4:40 PM Site calstars has been banned permanently. 20+ FPs in the past month. 1 week ban. Unban date 20 March 2022

Sunday, March 13, 2022 3:56 PM I Love AFL User Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison) has been Yellow Carded
Sunday, March 13, 2022 12:56 PM I Love AFL User Van Horn Street has been Yellow Carded

just to be clear -- the yellow cards are for continuing to post about something in this thread that the mod (me) had posted not to do. The yellow cards were not inflammatory, just like "hey, chill, take the discussion to ILE" ... I also thread banned Sufjan Grafton last night after a series of posts on the same topic that seemed to be not going to a good place.

If anyone wants to critique my moderation please do so here

Sounds eminently reasonable to me. I mean, yellow cards are more often used for the lols, so actually using them for a proper purpose is good modding imo.

this is like the first time i haven't just modded lol posts for lols so ... i'm kinda insecure?

It's a pretty stressful situation atm but you've handled it well. Nothing wrong with asking people to move over to one of the main boards if you're not comfortable with the discussion being here. I'm fucking terrified every time I do anything mod-like, honestly.

you did good today too emil.y!!!

I'm genuinely upset by this whole thing.

what are you upset about Christine?

I hate seeing this whole place torn apart like this.

Why is there a Slack? Why was there AIM chatz? Why was (is?) there a Facebook group?

What is wrong with the actual board we're all on? I feel like I almost dont belong here despite being here 20 years because in all that time, I've found out about off-board boards only after the fact (when they blow up like this has) or, in the case of the initial 77 board activity, when I had IRL friends not remotely associated with ILX asking me who X and Y people from here were, because they were writing disparaging comments about me under said non-ILX friend's flickr photos.

I never did find out who did that.

Anyhoo. None of this feels new I suppose.

I get u Trayce. I'm not really interested in going to a separate ilx place, but it makes me feel like I'm not really getting the full picture of anything here, like I'm missing out on the real networking being done by the people in the smoking area. I don't begrudge anyone it of course but also accept that I'll have a different relationship to this place than others.
it's ok, I'll stick to the tv threads.

Yah my TV and gaming buddies here are good peeps, it'll do me.

I haven’t posted regularly on ILX in years. Tbh it’s blocked at work and I get overwhelmed when I visit as if I don’t even know where to start again. The slack - which was begun during the first lockdown more as a rapid chat forum seemed smaller and more manageable for me so I have been posting there sporadically. There are several channels many of which are similar to those here. There’s a general one and a cooking one for instance. There was one channel that was for ILX discussions that some people posted in. This idea that the slack exists to plan coordinated bullying attacks is incorrect and pretty nuts and I just want to make that really clear.

"Sunday, March 13, 2022 5:45 PM Site Van Horn Street has been banned permanently. 21 FPs in 48 hours"

Just checking is this permanent permanent or a week?

I guess we'll have to see what happens when you get 21'd twice in a month's time. Breaking new ground there, VHS!

So, this place has nothing to do with AFL then?

I'm happy to share my thoughts as to why Carlton *can* make the finals this year if anyone is interested.

KBP! Could do with some more posts from you around here these days.

I guess we'll have to see what happens when you get 21'd twice in a month's time. Breaking new ground there, VHS!

― peace, man, Monday, 14 March 2022 bookmarkflaglink

VHS in actually being useful for a change.

Yep, that is the reason for no end date as of yet. Trying to look through to see if we addressed what to do in the case of 2 consecutive minibans.

Be good to know *looks nervously over shoulder lol*

Never secret except that lots of regular posters had never been told about it.

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, March 13, 2022 5:35 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not for lack of trying!

― thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, March 13, 2022 5:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Probably worth noting that, while ILX can often feel like a tight-knit community, few people read every thread on the board and it's easy to miss stuff. The only reason I knew about the Slack is because someone mentioned it to me off-board around the time it started. (I signed up, realized I didn't have time for it, and haven't logged in since.) So it's not surprising to me that some regular posters might not have known about it and consequently feel left out.

hey, do i actually have to remind you that ilx has a search function?

There's an xls for that.

I think that maybe we could get certain threads mod-stickied. I think I can remember that happening one time that I've been here, although I might be imagining it (https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=58899 ???) . The slack announcement could have been one of them (in hindsight).

I thought about this briefly like a month ago when I realized that I never saw the ILM EOY voting thread (which had only been bumped on a handful of occasions) and thus missed the ballots deadline.

peace, man: i don't see anything in the admin tools i get that can do that. granted, i don't have all the tools, and i'm guessing that the reason i get errors when i try and use some of the functions is because as a sub-board mod i have more limited permissions? (not complaining, just saying)

Yeah, honestly I don't remember that capability from when I was a mod either, so maybe I'm just making it up.

The thread that I linked was very apropro, however.

hahah yeah, apart from some classic nabisco otm content, this is good to reflect on -- also i miss Edward III

anyway here's why secret boards are bad ideas: a) information wants to be free, and when "secrets" come out the results aren't usually enjoyable, b) secret boards create a sense of disenfranchaisement amongst non-secret board members, and c) it gives the judgment-impaired a screen behind which to hide.

I think all 3 of these factors greased the sledrails on the recent ... debacle. at least when this shit was on noize board people could shrug it off as "what do you expect, noize board is made of dicks", but when it's on some secret area that only "certain people" are privy to, it adds an extra twist of humiliation...

― Edward III, Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:39 PM (thirteen years ago

also relevant

the idea that's it's some gossip infested shitstorm with teh bottom feeders of ilx scurrying around and talking shit on ppl they don't know and don't usually interact and argue with is completely false

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:32 PM (thirteen years ago)

^kind of a hilarious post in retrospect lol

imago, m8, you missed all the excitement!

getting my lazy gawker zings in while I can innit

now that were a proper clusterfuck m8