outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

Not if they're transferring from elsewhere.

(Normalising masking in indoor public situations has a salutary effect beyond the specific utility in each venue. Requiring customer-facing workers to do so unmasked, in thousands of encounters a day with people travelling from any number of exciting-new-variant hotspots, is simply murderous.)

i agree, but is not relevant to the point i'm making (no masking at heathrow will make no difference to the US).

The robust tracing system at both ends will at least let us know whether any cases are acquired en route. 👍

fwiw, BA appears to have reversed the decision to make masks optional today.

Thanks for this - looks like there's no policy reversal announced, but flight staff maybe pushing back?

I received my next batch of government covid tests in the mail today, so I guess I'm at least ready for this next wave

xps
I work at an airport and the rest of the time on 'covid island' I'm not around any other people so not wearing masks at said airport affects me at least. calculating at what point the percentage of passengers not wearing masks makes me wearing one pointless. as ever let's hope it's mild when I get it( have avoided so far afaik)

this newsletter very good and reasonable as per usual

https://calmcovid.substack.com/p/the-omicron-sequel-no-one-wanted

Thanks. Good read.

bad news: the one-star reviews are coming back! pic.twitter.com/7E42fEVcjN

— drewtoothpaste (@drewtoothpaste) March 20, 2022

I know it won't last, but today Austin hit the lowest rolling average for new hospitalizations since March 2020

lowish hospitalizations might last!

If BA2 is omicron phase 2, then I'm not very optimistic about that

I thought omicron was supposed to not have the anosmia thing

in the UK infections are up 38% and hospitalisations are up 25% but deaths are holding steady (all 7 day rolling averages)

no make at all in the post office or co-op when i popped out yesterday afternoon. i think the uptick in the weather has made people careless

I've been traveling a fair amount in the US the past few weeks, mostly in big cities, still consistently seeing masks in large numbers (though I'd say less than half of indoor people) despite it not being required anywhere I've been (except in the airport and on the plane, where mask compliance was, as usual, near-universal)

not sure tbh about the uk government's stance on masks, i feel like they just got bored of it. the shops generally still have their signs up (maybe through inertia) but people increasingly don't care.

talk of a 4th jab for vulnerable people. maybe a new jab every 6 months is a thing now.

On Monday at 11 am, students from Seattle Public Schools (SPS) walked out of class and rallied at the John Stanford Center for Educational Excellence to demand the district reinstate its mask mandate.

“[The district] would rather have our family members die and have us deal with this for another five years than deal with some conservative parents complaining about how their mask itches,” one student said into the megaphone. “Get your shit together, SPS.”

So happy I live in the Pacific NW. That makes me proud.

Think how much easier this issue would be if epidemic disease forecasting models were brought up to the current level of weather forecasting models.

We are going to be dealing with this for another five years regardless.

and we're still not good at predicting intensity xpost

weather forecasting is still a long way from perfect, but it's leveled up to the point where almost everyone accepts forecasts as accurate enough to modify their behavior based on their predictions

Into my kids’ veins

We're announcing positive interim data from the Phase 2/3 KidCOVE study of our #COVID19 vaccine (mRNA-1273) in children 6 months to under 2 years and 2 years to under 6 years of age.https://t.co/CqdRMSv3Kv pic.twitter.com/whcObVY4CD

— Moderna (@moderna_tx) March 23, 2022

Has anyone here used an LFT test as proof of negative covid status before travel? Our five year old isn't vaccinated and we need proof to travel to greece, supposedly you can get an LFT from a certified provider, test at home and upload your test result and get the certificate emailed to you. But what's to stop you just faking the test?

Where do you live? We did lfts in London for travel to the US but we had to get them done supervised at a test site and upload the certificate.

Birmingham, flying from Stansted. We'll probably do one at the airport anyway. Found one test provider that says This is not a supervised service, please ensure that an unsupervised self-swab is acceptable for the country you are travelling to. so maybe that's it - the gov.uk site says the requirements are proof of a negative COVID-19 rapid antigen test from an authorised laboratory which is ambiguous.

Yeah, it’s not super helpful wording.

ledge, we've done supervised LFD tests with Qured-- you buy it online, they mail it to you, you book a video call for the day you need test done, they watch you swab and then you email them the photo of the test 15 minutes later. Did that in both directions on our US trip over the summer.

Interesting, thanks!

I did an unsupervised LFT back in January for a flight back to Ireland from UK. You basically take the test and then upload a photo of it with some ID in the frame. Then they send you a certificate.

You're correct that there's absolutely nothing to stop you from faking the test and the whole thing seems massively dodgy but we had no problems travelling on it

It depends on your destination. the US only allows supervised LFTs, hence them watching you swab, recording the number on the test, etc. I have no idea what the rules are for Greece, so it's possible you don't need that extra step, but I'm going to a clinic on Thursday to do my fit-to-fly test for the US.

9 new offical covid symptoms published today in the UK, at least 5 of which i had over the weekend

what people have done to travel to any country that isn't greece is not relevant, afaict.

sorry for answering the man’s question

he actually asked for experiences taking lateral flow tests for travel, not "please sort my trip to Greece"...

turns out you can post on ilx and it doesn't have to be a direct answer to a previous q precisely as asked? you can just say stuff.

I look forward to your policing of the deeply imprecise stuff posted in other threads. wtf.

Fwiw I found all the responses at least interesting, and as the official Greek website doesn't make things any clearer I'd be impressed if anyone actually manages to answer my implicit question.

I mean, what is the huge difference between a unvaccinated five year old taking a unsupervised test and an unvaccinated four year old entering the country without being required to test? Smacks of needing to be seen to do something without doing so. What stops you faking it? Idk, I guess you probably wouldn’t want to travel if your child was sick and therefore there was a chance of more of you getting sick?

Appalling..

Ensues a barrage of death threats, accusations of being a eugenist, a mass killer and whatnot (example below). I've got used to Covid twitter being a bit broken, but still ...
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— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) April 4, 2022

I'm having a hard time understanding what was even controversial about what he said, let alone "genocidal."

The vACCIne is GENOcide

A San Francisco Bay Area naturopathic doctor pleaded guilty Wednesday to selling fake COVID-19 immunization pills and forged vaccination cards that falsely claimed customers got the Moderna vaccine, the Department of Justice said in a news release.

Juli Mazi, a 41-year-old licensed homeopathic doctor... falsely claimed that the pills contained a small amount of the COVID virus and would generate lifelong immunity by creating antibodies, court documents said..

Isn't this basically what ALL homeopathy is based on? So why charge her for this and not all the other BS pills she's vending?

i like to think that one becomes licensed in homeopathy by ingesting a minute amount of knowledge about it, like in black books when manny eats the little book of calm

lol

Fiegl Ding retweeted that response? I stopped paying any attention to his alarmist nonsense over a year ago and I don't think any infectious disease experts take him seriously. He's a twitter attention whore and that is all.

What Balloux is communicating here is about what you'd expect; vaxxed and you get a breakthrough? you'll be well protected for a while. I hope so, because that just happened to me this week.

Just An Ordinary Bloke @Unusual_Times

Breaking News: President Biden said it’s up to individuals whether to wear masks, undercutting efforts by his administration to urge Americans to keep wearing them on airplanes and public transit after a federal judge struck down a nationwide mask mandate. https://t.co/2b2Kcs9o5h

— The New York Times (@nytimes) April 19, 2022

congrats to my fellow americans who have defeated covid. we did it!!

WE DID IT! WE DID IT!*

* - ignoring my own anecdotal data point that shows I now know more people who have tested positive for COVID in the last two weeks than at any other point, including the January Omicron peak

i can't believe 95% of americans 65 or older got at least one shot, and 89.4% got both. that's impressive!

(wish my mom were one of them, but she has elected to be one of the 5 percent with not even one shot)

we're officially in stop the count territory