Kratom, the legal opiate alternative (and other legal highs discussion, I guess).

Here in Thailand they sell you the Kratom leaves for about 20 cent each and you just boil them and make tea out of them. I was a bit skeptical at first but the effect is actually quite nice, and not too far from the real thing imho

Have never tried it in Europe so I can’t compare though.

spotted this in a shop in Ohio and got a bag out of curiosity, now that I'm reading about it though thinking I might just toss it

i think my younger brother uses this just about every night. he seems fine but i find it worrying that he is essentially addicted to it. i tried it once while hanging out with him and didn't notice any effect, but i had been drinking

not to be that guy but frogbs, don't do it!

by which i mean, toss it, don't use it!

i had a friend who tried out kratom a few years ago, was all about it for a week, said it helped him with his back pain, then he came to visit me in chicago for 2 days, and during these 2 days we did nothing but watch him take cratom, watch him run out of cratom, go all over the city to get cratom, and then went and got some extra cratom for his trip home. he was incredibly cranky the entire time, the crankiest i've seen him in 25 years of friendship, and couldn't stop talking about how awesome cratom was and how i should try some with him.

finally, finally he stopped taking it a few months later, but man, fuck that kratom stuff

sorry, i watched a kranky kong video last night and have been konflating kr and cr ever since

in conclusion, kratom is bad. much better to watch all of this video before making any decision:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npuuTBlEb1U

i'd be a lot more worried about my brother if his habit resembled anything like that. he takes it before bed like sleepytime tea

i tried this once and it just made feel a little mentally hazy and nauseated. didn't realize it was addictive in its own right, so i guess i have more than one reason to avoid it.

I've tried opiates and benzos a few times and didn't get addicted but maybe a big part of it is just not having them available. my thought in buying this was "well you can't get more so if you really like it too bad" but obv it's pretty easy to buy online

still may try it once for curiositys sake