yeah its really hard to see the upside. musk/tesla already has insane brand recognition and reach and owning buying twitter won't do much from a pr perspective.
if anything twitter is currently perceived as a fairly liberal space for ideas etc so people supporting musk on twitter can be reported on as a reliable indication of reality. the minute musk takes ownership all news of twitter goings on will be noted as "musks social media network, twitter" and it will lose trustworthiness for those who follow stocks
― micah, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link
"I think Twitter needs to be much more evenhanded. It currently has a strong left bias because it's based in San Francisco...from their perspective, it seems moderate, but they're just coming...from an environment that is very far left."
that is preposterous, this city is not far left, but it's clear you don't want to be here so just buy it and move the company to Florida or Texas, good riddance
― Dan S, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link
I'm dubious of most media "don't look here, look over here" misdirections, but it's worth noting that Musk's "I'd let Trump back on Twitter" announcement occurred the same day/time as Tesla recalls 130,000 vehicles to fix touchscreen issues caused by an overheating CPUs.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
Yeah especially as up til last week he said trump wont come back to twitter, so hes changed his tune?
The guy is a fucking troll, manipulating media and stock markets to his whim. How is this allowed?!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
i’m guessing it’s the decades of supine fealty to capital and its bosses
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link
lol
Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of usershttps://t.co/Y2t0QMuuyn— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 13, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link
bro its twitter cmon you knew what you were getting
Is this him backing out? 🙏🏻
― gyac, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link
that or renegotiating, hes also trying to find investors rather than borrow against tesla stock
Tesla's share price has plunged about 32% over the last few weeks. Musk is now trying to raise enough money from others so he doesn't have to borrow against his sagging Tesla shares to fund a Twitter takeover. https://t.co/yq5qEvasCN— Tim O'Brien (@TimOBrien) May 12, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link
very smart guy
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link
smartest man in the last thousand years
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link
point counterpoint
Here's the thing: There are not a ton of spam bots on this website. That's because of moderation.But of that small amount, there are a ton pretending to be... Elon Musk.Another sign pointing towards "I want it because it's bad for me, personally."https://t.co/TeWaGOhk9c— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) May 13, 2022
If Musk backs out of the Twitter deal ostensibly over bots they should provide insight into the bots he ran to pump Tesla’s stock.— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) May 13, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
Told @ElonMusk's tunnel from Convention Center to Resorts World is ready, awaiting final approval. Unlike the existing tunnels, this route has one tunnel (for now)—cars will go one way or the other, waiting for the tunnel to clear before drivers can go in the opposite direction.— Vital Vegas (@VitalVegas) May 13, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link
is there a guy in a yellow suit holding one of those signs that says STOP on one side and SLOW on the other
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 13 May 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link
lmao
― rob, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link
It’s happening
Musk is just pretending to buy Twitter to unload more Tesla shares and will find some dumb reason why he “can’t do it”— Bucco “Buyback” Capital (@buccocapital) April 29, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 13 May 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link
thats one of my theories
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link
my many theories
about the rich man i hate
wonder if the bot excuse is calculated to avoid paying the $1b backout fee, claiming they gave him bunk info
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link
Elon Musk logic is literally: I'm going to buy Twitter to fix the bot problem, but I am actually going to wait for a further analysis of Twitter's bot problem.— William Turton (@WilliamTurton) May 13, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 May 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
iirc musk specifically waived the diligence out (it's common for buyers to require a diligence out that allows them to break the deal if they find something bad during diligence), so i don't think he's trying to do that. it's also stupid because the bot thing was literally in twitter's public disclosures well before the deal was signed.
orchestrating this to sell tesla stock strikes me as unlikely too given the $1B breakup fee, that's really expensive and he hasn't sold (or was planning to sell) that much anyway... fwiw he sold way more in 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/elon-musks-stock-sales-could-total-18-billion-by-the-end-of-year-.html
― 龜, Friday, 13 May 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link
I have no facts or reasoning to back this up, but my heart tells me that the big rich guy is going to win, and that it’s going to involve the other rich people also winning, somehow
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
Then some people will get pissed and it’ll be like “well there’s going to be a lawsuit over that one, you better believe that!”Then 3-5 years from now on page A19 there will be some news on the progress of the settlement, and he’ll still be incredible rich, and will probably own google or some dumb shit as well
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
I finally realize the basic reality which is that to rich people, settlements are the costs of doing business, and that the small cluster of legal teams who know how to negotiate those settlements are doing it not to deter or punish or redistribute the money back to normal people, but instead just to get their slice of the pie. There is no one involved that is a good person, it’s just them getting theirs and then selling it to everyone else as the law in action or whatever we say these days. Reminds me of how I have to pay $8/month on a mandatory “concierge” service for my shitty apartment. It’s supposed to help me and lead to them doing cool stuff like repairing things. In real life, they just don’t respond, not for me and not for the other neighbors with the same mandatory concierge. We all just laugh (actually, I do - they tend to just complain about it literally every time I see them, to the point where I am now actively avoiding them because I cannot hear about this concierge debacle one more time unless I’m the one writing about it on an Elon Musk thread) because what are you going to do? It’s a total scam, everyone knows it, the concierge gets to pick up free money and they obviously are friends with whoever owns the apartments. I’m sure after these kinds of giant transactions are over, everyone gathers around a flame and worships Baal while cutting themselves with the edges of $100 bills
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
i know I have a tendency to be a little Pollyanna-ish about these things but I think obscenely rich people scamming each other but mostly scamming poorer people who will be forced by but to sit there and endure the scam will be like 97% of the global economy before the end of decade
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
*forced by law
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link
i believe it will be more like 98% in some places, less so than others, unevenly distributed. but the trend of money is toward total, complete bullshit while people can't afford healthcare or housing
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
the only one single idea that elon musk has about that is to make people indentured slaves on his shitty new mining planets
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
龜 what do you think he's doing then? occam's razor (which would apply if he was like carl icahn rather than a zany narcissist dweeb) is he's just trying to drive the price down, which is fair enough i guess.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
that’s what we’ll have to call innovation xp
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
this guy makes trump look like charles foster kane
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, May 13, 2022 12:08 PM (thirty-six minutes ago)
i think that's probably the most likely scenario, the deal got better every day for twitter from the day he signed the contract via the stock market continuing to crash. the best outcome imo would be for musk to get twitter back to the bargaining table but just as they sit down the market recovers to where it was when they signed and musk still has to buy at 54.20.
― 龜, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
probably the calculus from musk's perspective is that musk would rather pay $1 billion in a breakup fee and dare twitter to sue him for specific performance (and all the very public pr and morale damage that would cause) rather than overpay by $5-10 billion (or whatever he think's twitter's valuation is now against this market backdrop. there is the other calculus of everybody on twitter laughing at him if he pulls out, i think he probably still smarts from the whole funding secured thing. who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― 龜, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
what is trump's "rosebud" because i bet it's either gross or cruel xp and sorry
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link
Trump's "Rosebud" is the old mayonnaise jar he used to kill caterpillars before they could become something beautiful
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 13 May 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
jarful of eyeballs from kids he had his juvenile pa's/droogs beat unconscious.
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
His asshole
― DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link
Jerkoff sock he lost behind his bed in 1964.
― daBobo (PBKR), Friday, 13 May 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
sorry all
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 May 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link
lol cmon man
To find out, my team will do a random sample of 100 followers of @twitter. I invite others to repeat the same process and see what they discover …— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 14, 2022
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 May 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
100 followers! you can tell this man is serious
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 14 May 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link
Truly wish this guy would just blast himself into pieces on one of his rockets
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link
The question now is, has Musk invented a set of underground tunnels for transportation, like London already had 150 years ago, or given the narrow clearance and the fire risk has he invented a set of underground tunnels for interring bodies, like Rome already had 2000 years ago.— Warren Terra (@warren__terra) May 14, 2022
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 May 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link
so it turns out the testing 100 followers tweet was a tease towards violating an NDA. great job, idiot.
― adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 15 May 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link
no one thinks he will pay $54.20 per share for twtr. no one.
― Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
Remember, this is the guy who tweeted he was going to heroically take over the rescue mission for that group stuck in the underwater cave a couple of years ago and all that came of it was a lawsuit for slandering someone who was actually useful as a pedo on twitter.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 15 May 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
no, he's just not stupid enough to overpay that much for TWTR.
― Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link
He was! He literally bought it Twitter at the top of the market. He’s trying to get out or negotiate the price down because his friends are laughing at him and he can no longer afford it.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
it wasn't the top of the market, but it makes no sense to try to figure out his intention at the time, whether he misjudged the market or was on some type of bender. he obviously finally figured it out when his btc position went underwater and tsls and twtr were tanking. everyone has been shorting every pop on twtr and tsla for weeks.
― Yerac, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link