Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

bless you alfred. Buffalo Community Fridge is doing a lot of good organizing right now, and FeedMoreWNY can always use funds. i'm hearing that some of the community fridges & grassroots orgs have actually halted cash & food donations since theyve become inundated, the real need right now just being warm bodies to organize donations, do deliveries, help elderly people fill their bags, etc. i'm gonna try to knock off work early and go assist.

Awesome, thank you for doing that. I work for an aid network in the Hudson Valley and our operations aren't affected by this terrorist attack but speaking generally, we have enough money/donations. What we lack is people with time to drive, shop, deliver. Expecting it to get worst as summer crests and people are away.

That's interesting; in most cases I've heard the opposite, that there's enough volunteers but not enough money with non-profit aid operations.

It's good that people are immediately jumping on Tucker and the rest of the ghouls at FOX for platforming the exact ideas that led this guy to do this but uh...what are the chances an 18 year old is actually watching FOX News? Is it not infinitely more likely that he got this shit from 4chan, Stormfront, Discord, maybe even Reddit?

Maybe it’s a trickle-down perspective?

I just found out the person killed in the Laguna Woods shooting yesterday was my primary care physician, Dr. John Cheng. Absolute hero. He attacked the gunman and helped save so many in that church. I just wanted his name to be known. He will be missed. pic.twitter.com/jAW8LvpmaB

— Johnny Stanton (@johnnystantoniv) May 16, 2022

I’ve been actively trying to avoid any detailed stuff about the Buffalo shooters manifesto, livestream, etc, but my understanding is he was a 4chan person

if you get influenced by anything on /pol then you're just an idiot who shouldn't even be on there.

This killer was a teenager, and it's clear that at least some of his manifesto is classic trickled-down racism from mainstream outlets (Tucker Carlson/Fox)... feel like that distinction between 4chan and the wider internet died by the time Trump got elected. 4chan has already infected the world.

xp that plays into the “pol isn’t real” idea that everyone on pol is larping, but i think that nine times out of ten people on pol say what they mean and the other times they’re not far off.

also a lot of kids come from households where this kind of stuff is accepted

Yeah, Daddy bought this fuck one of his guns as a 16th birthday present — let's hear a whole lot more from the media about that.

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/tops-worker-says-911-dispatcher-hung-up-on-her-during-shooting-the-dispatcher-is-now/article_81722c50-d6b6-11ec-9b8e-978e1bbde2e4.html

Insane that someone who can't buy a six pack of Schlitz can easily buy an assault rifle

"Online, he raged against Black, Hispanic and Jewish people — and then logged off to hang out with his closest friend, Matthew Casado, who is Hispanic and whose girlfriend is Black. Seven weeks before the Buffalo attack, Mr. Gendron celebrated Mr. Casado’s 19th birthday at a Mexican restaurant with Mr. Casado’s family.

Mr. Casado and his girlfriend, Skylar McClain, both said in interviews that Mr. Gendron never let on that he felt such hate.

“He was never racist towards me or around me,” said Mr. Casado, adding: “I was one of the only friends, if not the only friend, he had.”"

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/22/nyregion/broome-county-buffalo-shooting.html

Wtf

"Mr Casado, who is one of the good ones"

" they had been celebrating Casado's recent conversion to Judaism at the Mexican restaurant.."

I shouldn’t have opened this thread. Someone’s defending pol on here? Or is this another case of me missing a lot of context for some apparent ILX crap-take.

I didn’t see any defending. People were debating whether the majority of the racist trolls on their “really mean” what they’re saying. I feel like this doesn’t matter.

Like, the intentions are irrelevant if you are putting that vile stuff out in the world knowing that some people like this shooter will take it seriously.

Right, agreed. Maybe “defending” wasn’t the best choice of words.

if you get influenced by anything on /pol then you're just an idiot who shouldn't even be on there.

Who should be on there? I guess that’s my point. I do believe in free speech in principle but if those forums are active hubs of recruiting terrorists (and possibly broadcasting terrorist attacks) then that’s really testing the first amendment imo.

With the caveat that afaik in this case the stream of the attack was promoted on Discord, not any of the chans.

I skimmed this and thought "What does Ian Mackaye have to do with this?"

Guilty of being wypipo?

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/24/1101037902/texas-elementary-school-shooting-uvalde

Jesus fucking christ, another god damned elementary school.

I just heard that on the radio,SO awful...

Fortunately the GOP has a solution: thoughts, prayers, and vague mutterings about mental health services, as long as the mentally ill won't have their firearms taken away

Actually they don’t even pretend to say stuff anout mental health services any longer.

They know such services don’t exist because they were the ones who cut them!

oh right.. now it's just about good guys having guns, to confront the bad guys having guns
either way, the solution is more guns

BREAKING: Law enforcement sources say they are expecting a significant death toll from a school shooting in Uvalde, Texas.

— Tony Plohetski (@tplohetski) May 24, 2022

uhhh what does "significant" mean

I have a kid in 1st grade right now, would love to not have to worry about this constantly for the next 11 years

Holy shit, last I heard it was 2 dead, now it's at least 14 children dead. Children. Fuck this stupid fucking garbage ass shithole of a country.

jesus fucking christ

Fuck

Unfortunately, a bunch of people in gov't have accepted this as part of the status quo - they won't admit as much, but their inaction says it all

Texas Governor Greg Abbott confirms that 14 children and 1 teacher were killed in the mass shooting at Robb Elementary school in Uvalde today. Gov Abbott also says the gunman is dead.

— Liz Cho (@LizCho7) May 24, 2022

my fucking god

Just imagine that one day the people responsible for letting this happen again and again and again and again would be held to account. Like motherfucking Greg Abbott standing there on that podium, counting the dead children. Shameless ghoul.

It never ever ends.

I can’t fucking take this anymore. This fucking piece of shit country.

Robb Elementary teaches 2nd through 4th grades

Fucking hell

Shooter was also 18 years old, per Rolling Stone.

wait till they reveal the manifesto he wrote in a county that went for Trump by more than 10 points.

News outlets are now getting savvy to not even calling them manifestos fwiw.

Fucking hell you guys
So, so awful, I can't stand it

this is that tiny, brief pause before they start talking about false flags and crisis actors

I don't even know what to say. The arguments exhaust me at this point. This is the country that some people have decided we all have to live in, so that they can go armed in the produce section at Kroger.

The Governor of Texas confirms that the shooters name is Salvador Ramos, 18 years old. He shot his grandmother before going into the school and opening fire.

— Doge (@IntelDoge) May 24, 2022

"No Way To Prevent This," Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

The National Rifle Association’s annual meeting is set to be held in Houston starting on Friday. Former President Donald J. Trump, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas and Senaor Ted Cruz are among those scheduled to address the gathering.

Well beyond the horror and despair that 15 died, is the knowing that after Sandy Hook, not one fucking thing will be done to prevent this from happening again. Just so Dipshit Joe can feel "safe" because the last time he was in the Wal-Mart he saw three brown people.