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i was JUST wondering if the agreement had a clause like that but does seth abramson know?

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

No idea, I assumed he was referring to the nda, am guessing Musk is also prohibited from discussing her as she is him? But I know nearly nothing about how they work.

gyac, Friday, 20 May 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

if she does choose to sue she shd definitely avoid hiring lin wood, "attorney and conspiracy theorist": unsworth deciding on wood to represent him was a bad move

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

seth abramson is a legendary idiot so may very well be wrong abt this but i have seen others saying musk has broken the terms of the nda

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

I would imagine any court would invalidate an NDA based on the party who asked for it publicly calling the other party a liar?

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

Even if Musk did break the NDA it would be suicidal for the victim to press forward here so it seems highly irrelevant. Just a grifter trying to keep his tweets in the trending box.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

feel like we’re about to see an avalanche of “no way ol Lonnie Musk wriggles his way out of this one” takes

anyway, heaven help that port walk an when her name gets out

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

*help that poor woman

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

again haven't looked into it but he's talking about non-disparagement not NDA (non-disclosure)

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

if there is one she might not need to sue, sometimes they include what the damages would be in the event of a breach. maybe seth abramson can fill us in since he is allegedly a lawyer but he doesn't appear to understand that this is different from suing for defamation. which would be independent of there being a pre-existing non-disparagement clause.

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

she was a Space X flight attendant, so maybe signed an NDA on day 1? Like "Elon's probably gonna show you his little rocket at some point, so please sign right here!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

tesla down another 10% today

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 20 May 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

In 2015 I decided on a whim to check out Tesla's battery swap station that was earning the company 9 figures in California ZEV credits, and found it wasn't real. Instead Tesla was using diesel generators to charge cars. Here's how this changed my life 🧵

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 20, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

"And that's okay"

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

i have been wondering about this. seems to mean tesla is not reporting safety issues to NHTSA, which is very legal and very cool.

A year later I found another big cockroach: Tesla was hiding defects by requiring customers sign NDAs in exchange for free repairs. This cut off the auto safety regulator's only independent source of information about defects. This led to a couple of important lessons...

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 20, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

yeah teslas habitual rule breakers but the fines are such mickey mouse shit that they dont care, guys seems to be saying that musk is more vulnerable personally

hes been covering tesla for years from the business/tech perspective but is now for the first time at least since ive been following him saying that musks got plenty of skeletons in his closet that shouldnt be too hard to expose, and that hes particularly vulnerable since none of his companies are actually profitable, his success is based on a cult of personality, its a celebrity story, jeff bezos for instance is a lot more protected since amazons success is based on actually making a ton of money

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

not sure they've had to pay any fines for it though, will investigate later

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 20 May 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

yeah not sure about for that issue, they have been fined a bunch for various things at a rate much higher than a typical car company iirc

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

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— helen (@helen) May 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 May 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

I quite literally cannot believe how many people think this guy is some sort of genius. It’s almost more disturbing than the Trump cult.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 20 May 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

I've gone through the same 4 stages with him that I did with Trump

1) This guy seems like kind of a clown, but he's had a lot of success so I guess he knows what he's doing
2) Alright, getting pretty weird now, but I am pretty sure he's just trolling/playing the media
3) No, he really is that much of a dipshit
4) He sucks at everything, what kind of fucking country lets this asshole be successful

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

crazy thing about musk is he has absolutely no personal charisma its just the idea of a visionary billionaire engineer that horrible nerds like

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

Like Steve Jobs, are there any charities or philanthropic causes that Musk contributes to?

Jobs believe his greatest gift to the world were the products that you bought from him at full price

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

IDK, maybe he supports the indigent Afrikaners back home

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

crazy thing about musk is he has absolutely no personal charisma its just the idea of a visionary billionaire engineer that horrible nerds like

yea this is a big deal and why I don't think he's gonna have much success trying to walk in Trump's footsteps. he appears kind of witty on Twitter because he's just ripping off memes he saw and stealing replies he thinks are funny. as a speaker he's fucking awful. every time I hear him talk my first thought is "has he not slept in the last 48 hours?"

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

all these guys think they can be trump but none of them ever had a hit tv show is how i break it down

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

I don't think that bar is going to matter much longer. More dopes like Trump are coming.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

im saying trump has a talent its not that easy

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

I don't think that bar is going to matter much longer.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

public attention is limited and highly sought after resource

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

you can't really teach charm

Clay, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

afaics, Musk is only engaged with politics insofar as he can use it to amplify his wealth and power. I greatly doubt he will run for office, because, like Trump, he would have no interest any position but the top job and he's barred from it.

He does like having a big fan club of adulators, so he spends a lot of time feeding and grooming them. Plus, they come in handy for all sorts of things that increase his influence. They are the sole reason why he got to host SNL, f'rinstance.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 20 May 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

I agree Trump has some animal cunning/sociopathic skill. I'm just not sure we aren't going to see more of that in politics.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

musk has been really successful from a pr perspective, getting the media to tell the story he wants, but hes never had to actually perform, and now hes contradicting the story he told by getting political fucking up the twitter deal and so forth, and now the bad news is starting

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

Trump has been really successful from a pr perspective, getting the media to tell the story he wants, but hes never had to actually perform, and now hes contradicting the story he told by getting political fucking up his casinos and so forth, and now the bad news is starting

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

lol nah man trumps been happily on screen every chance he can get for 40 years see aforementioned #1 tv show

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

I am in no way saying Musk = Trump, I'm must saying don't dismiss him from whatever because he's not actually successful, an obvious moron, etc. etc. etc. He has resources (more than Trump). Like Trump he just keeps his name in the media on end and appeals to a certain demographic.

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

must = just

PBKR, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

not really sure what were talking about now but i stand by my statement that he has no personal charisma, and furthermore hes currently in a tough spot

lag∞n, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah the obsession w/ the media is a big similarity, iirc there was a story a couple years ago detailing just how hard he works at keeping any negative stories out of the press. Like he would personally hound and threaten reporters who had anything negative to say about him or Tesla, nearly everyone who works for him claimed they have to sign crazy NDAs, etc.

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

Anyway he’s now trying to crowdsource a legal team through Twitter which I am guessing means a bunch more stories are about to drop

frogbs, Friday, 20 May 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

That would be great.

PBKR, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

thing about musks media success is basically him and the business media were made for each other theres nothing they love more than the idea that enterprise will save the world, that was his sweet spot, he fucked up when he went full celebrity cause the celebrity media will eventually turn on you thats part of their practice, now this political shift is just very dicey, i mean unless he just wants to become some shitty right wing figure, but its not going to help with selling cars, theres a reason ceos usually dont do shit like this, theyre not trying to alienate half their customers

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

Tesla is building a hardcore litigation department where we directly initiate & execute lawsuits. The team will report directly to me.

Please send 3 to 5 bullet points describing evidence of exceptional ability.

just✧✧✧@te✧✧✧.c✧✧

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 20, 2022

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

weird dude clearly pretty unstable

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

he doesn't know how anything works and is tired of lawyers telling him things are illegal

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

wtf is he doing pretty sure he already has lawyers does he think someones going to read that and be all oh i better not fuck with him hes putting together a hardcore litigation team

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

he is planning to sue all of us for this thread

towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

i welcome his cleansing lawsuit

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

damn elon is making litigation hardcore now? this is getting wild but what a visionary

Clay, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link


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