Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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here's a thought i've been having post-Roe v. Wade and now this:

the other side got mad enough to storm the fucking capitol building

at what point does our side consider the same?


Recent article about this in either the NYRB or LARB— guy basically asking whether leftists and progressives will ever stage an insurrection, and whether it might actually be a good and necessary thing

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

Except "our side's" elected officials would crumple and denounce us fucking immediately in the name of decorum.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

Back to thinking how many kids were safer in 'lockdown'

nashwan, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

^^ who knew being in school during a pandemic was the comparatively safer route?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

xxxxxxpost violent revolution is necessary in certain circumstances. i don't know that our side would have the stomach for it though.

I remember reading a few people saying "if Trump does manage to steal this election, we will take to the streets and PEACEFULLY protest" and I was like, cool, the illegitimate President in power will say "we'll take your concerns under advisement". like had he been successful, 'peaceful' protests would have essentially been like handing the office to them without resistance. I hate violence but had the unthinkable happened, no peaceful protest would have made waves.

Republicans will show up at the steps of the Capitol if the price of a Whopper goes up 20 cents. Democrats will show up with shittily made signs and singing shitty songs when the streets are on fire.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah, well such is the price of following the actual teachings of Jesus.

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

I had jury duty earlier this month, and had to go through a full security shakedown and a metal detector.. not even a swiss army knife allowed

Maybe that's what it's coming to everywhere

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

yeah, it's hard to imagine what could cause an insurrection from the left. how much worse can it get than restricting women's personal health care decisions and killing our children...

alpine static, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

yeah, it's hard to imagine what could cause an insurrection from the left

Having a president that would actively encourage one?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

Columbine survivor here. My oldest son just finished his first year of college. This is America. There is no end in sight for the steady cadence of mass gun violence we seem unwilling to ever address. A reality my peers could not have imagined on our worst day in April 1999.

— Craig Nason (@nasoncraig) May 24, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

Manchin just last week expressed his opinion that even after the Buffalo shooting, movement on gun reform did not look likely.

“Are we going to another vote for the sake of taking a vote? Let’s do some mental illness reform,” Manchin said.

Yeah, let's reform mental illness man

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

People on the left definitely need to own more guns. Specifically, sniper's rifles.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

America's gun culture - in seven charts
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41488081

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

Lol mind ay how thrilled ppl were by the georgia runoff giving the democrats a senate majority

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

I remember that sense of optimism.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

americans bought 40 million guns in the calendar year 2020

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

40 million

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

actually that doesn't include guns bought in states without a background check, or guns bought illegally

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

when you google stuff like that pretty much every result is a pro-gun SEO farm

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

Republicans are afraid of their base and give them what they want. When are we going to make Democrats afraid of their base?


Even darker thought: the right wing is deliberately murdering us. We need to fight back with their tactics.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

I think a big part of the problem is that the actual "left" in the U.S. is small, prone to infighting, disorganized and demoralized, and is certainly not represented by the Democrats in the way that the right wing is represented by the Republicans.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

i'll spare the newsmax video, but Texas AG Ken Paxton, asked in a newsmax "interview" what kinds of things should be done, said something about the buildings being built in a way so there is only one point of entry before switching to his thought that the teachers should have had guns

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

His repeated appearances on The Circus somehow almost managed to make me relieved it was Abbott in charge instead of him. (Emphasis on almost obv.)

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

now 18 children, 3 adults. fuck

Dan S, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

how have mass-shootings not occurred at these nra conventions/meetings yet? or have they?

dyl, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

I am so fucking tired of the “just vote, we all have to vote, voting is all we can do to change this” Twitter brigade. Bullshit, I’ve been voting for gun control and politicians in favor of gun control for two fucking decades now and absolutely fuck all has been done. It’s clear that isn’t enough and it isn’t working.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

even the politicians have stopped pretending that voting does anything

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

I’ve had it with this crap.

people (reportedly 4channers) have apparently just been grabbing random photos of trans women they think look remotely like the photos of the shooter they've apparently been able to find (or think they've found, who knows), and using them to claim the shooter was trans.

— Molly White (@molly0xFFF) May 25, 2022

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 07:02 (one year ago) link

Really weird thing to say after this tragedy.

For all its very real problems, one shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that the contemporary United States of America is one of the best places to live in all of human history and there’s a reason tons of people of all kinds from all around the world clamor to move here.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 24, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link

Not a weird thing when you've transitioned into being a full-time troll whose media career subsists primarily on hate clicks.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link

Looks like the cops were useless.

Oh my fucking god pic.twitter.com/ybWMsZWbyP

— Jordan (@SLCLunk) May 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 08:00 (one year ago) link

What they don’t tell you is teachers are told in training that they have to lock out any of their students who are out of the classroom, *out of the classroom*. Even if they beg and bang on the door. Because there could be a shooter using them to access your classroom.

— Erin Hahn is writing another romance (@erinhahn_author) May 24, 2022

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 10:13 (one year ago) link

can’t wait for dem leadership to celebrate the bravery of the crybabies in blue for keeping the death toll just under two dozen

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 11:03 (one year ago) link

"Voting, on its own, will not be enough to change that. We have to decide: what will be?"

https://annehelen.substack.com/p/this-is-what-happens-when-you-live?s=r

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 11:56 (one year ago) link

lol

I’ve often urged others to be more mindful and considered in what they say on here, and often acknowledged that I don’t always live up to that standard — my widely criticized remarks yesterday evening were an example of that and I’m sorry.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 25, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link

"Voting, on its own, will not be enough to change that. We have to decide: what will be?"

https://annehelen.substack.com/p/this-is-what-happens-when-you-live?s=r🕸


Great article, it’s exactly how I feel. Jeet Heer has also written in this theme: if a majority cannot pass its preferred policies again and again because the system is designed to thwart it, and can’t do it democratically, what do we do now?

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

A tiny minority is about to impose its will on abortion on a vast majority. What will it take for the majority to assert itself?

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

And the Democratic Party as currently constituted wont do anything. They exist to thwart the will of the majority too.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

If anything, the second amendment is how you should overthrow these motherfuckers.

Mule, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

What is tyranny if not keeping an entire nation hostage to the NRA and people like Ken Paxton?

Mule, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

you and all of your families would suffer and likely perish in a civil war

imago, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

oh word

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that’s likely. And one of many reasons why it won’t happen.

Mule, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah, there are liberal gun owners, but conservatives have decades of amassing weaponry on their side.

peace, man, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

I don't know what needs doing. Passing the universal background check and assault weapon ban bills? Amending the Second Amendment out of existence? Saying fuck you to this fucking country?

The latter.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

I’m not suggesting generalized violence or civil war. But man are we mote passive than our ancestors.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

look, I'm all for meaningful action on gun reform, but god, just look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

there are 1.2 firearms for every person in this country. no other country comes close. we have 4-5 times more guns per capita than virtually every other major country on the planet. even assuming that we can pass background checks, implement fingerprint scanners, magazine limits, greater waiting periods, etc. etc. there are still so many guns in this country that it will never be an issue finding one within my lifetime. I'm not saying that we shouldn't try, of course we fucking should, but the right-wing line that this is inevitable or "the price of freedom" is...more or less true right now???

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

yeah, it's like climate change. The things that can be done won't be done, so we focus on mitigation of damage instead.

My wife and I deliberately are not having children (despite our relative privilege as white heterosexual middle class) and one reason is because of the bleak future we see for any children in this stinking corpse of a country under climate change. That’s our protest.

No disrespect at all to those with children, I know it’s a personal decision and I do not judge people for having children.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

you and all of your families would suffer and likely perish in a civil war

― imago, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 bookmarkflaglink

What a ludicrous thing to say to people who are living in fear of being gunned down already. Or suffering because they can't get affordable healthcare.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link


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