https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/nra-maria-butina-ukraine-putin-war-crimea-republicans-trump-guns/
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
progress (........?)
Facebook’s ban on gun sales gives sellers 10 strikes before booting themFacebook prohibits gun sales on its service. But buyers and sellers can violate the rule 10 times before they are kicked off the social network, according to internal guidance obtained by The Washington Post.The policy, which has not previously been reported, is much more lenient than for users who post child pornography, which is illegal, or a terrorist image on Facebook, which prompts immediate removal from the platform.A separate five-strikes policy extends even to gun sellers and purchasers who actively call for violence or praise a known dangerous organization, according to the documents....But while the company was publicly praised for banning the sales, internally, enforcement was lax, they added.“The number of strikes needed to actually take someone off was so great that the policy didn’t really make a difference. The only ramification was that a seller’s post was taken down,” the person said.Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower.
Facebook prohibits gun sales on its service. But buyers and sellers can violate the rule 10 times before they are kicked off the social network, according to internal guidance obtained by The Washington Post.
The policy, which has not previously been reported, is much more lenient than for users who post child pornography, which is illegal, or a terrorist image on Facebook, which prompts immediate removal from the platform.
A separate five-strikes policy extends even to gun sellers and purchasers who actively call for violence or praise a known dangerous organization, according to the documents.
...But while the company was publicly praised for banning the sales, internally, enforcement was lax, they added.
“The number of strikes needed to actually take someone off was so great that the policy didn’t really make a difference. The only ramification was that a seller’s post was taken down,” the person said.
Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/09/facebook-gun-sellers-10-strikes/
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-enforces-ban-on-gun-sales-with-10-strikes-and-youre-out-policy/
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
they just need nine reminders before it sinks in
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link
thing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken
― When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link
Sigh
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
flag football?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
When I was using Facebook Marketplace to sell off some power tools, I'd report all the EMPTY GLOCK CASE WINKWINK $600 ads and Facebook said they were all legit and above board.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
no see what they were saying is that was a 'partial strike' so like it counts as a half-strike towards their ten strike total but the ad is allowed to stay up in the meantime because I mean they have to make a living maaaan
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
hing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 9, 2022 1:59 PM bookmarkflaglink
lol seriously, though they did manage to figure out the last time I did that and ban my other account. shoulda used VPN
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
keep in mind, with facebook the number used to be higher! "Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower."
honestly, having been a veteran on a couple of mid-to-low projects that no one really cared about in a large organization, this kind of sounds like the thing where you only make about a third of the very obvious improvements you can make. why do it all at once and have to start over on new project when you can spread the "doing good" part over several years instead? Don't go from 20 strikes (or 40. or 51?) to 3 strikes or 2 strikes or 1 strike all at once. you gotta slooooowly get there and build up some PT along the way
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
A friend from high school got banned for drunkenly ranting at COVID deniers night after night over the summer of 2020 and decided it was time to go to rehab. Getting banned from Facebook is a pretty legit rock bottom IMO.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
why would anyone want to sell a firearm anyway? guns are for hoarding, hundreds of them
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link
Guns are for killing, you Commie dirtbag.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link
guns are for killing the bears that threaten my family here on the frontier. the local bears are incredibly angry with my family, and particularly me
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link
Don't piss off the gays, Karl.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link
i don't understand why they're all so angry with me when all did was them to stay off my frontier, please
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link
(multiple words eaten by wildlife)
the wildlife has a right to eat your words, its their land
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link
In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken― When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 9, 2022 11:01 AM
― When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 9, 2022 11:01 AM
take your pick: sexually abusing children, insider trading, use of excessive force, etc.
― I'm ANTIFA and I vote. (Austin), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104010176/washington-county-maryland-shooting
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 10 June 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link
xpost Yeah of course but I'm thinking a more formalized 'careful, guy, u just got yr ninth strike so you're super close to suffering a mild consequence' type of situation
― When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 June 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link
co-worker reporting the mall her son works at (Eastridge Mall in Gastonia, NC) just had a shooting. early news = 3 shot, with non-life threatening injuries (hope it stays that way)
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
department of homeland security helpfully informs us that many more people are going to be killed this summer
if only there were something, anything, anyfuckingthing at all that could be done to prevent even a few of these murders that we know are going to happen, but nah
― (ʇɐɔ) o (cat), Saturday, 11 June 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link
If only.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 11 June 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link
Minority Report but the precogs are like w/e d00d
― Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 11 June 2022 08:15 (one year ago) link
Dumb question from a non-American: I remember Trump issuing executive orders on all kinds of crazy stuff, why can't Biden issue an executive order banning assault rifles?
― Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 11 June 2022 08:37 (one year ago) link
like with most of trump’s crazy shit it would be thrown out by the courts asap and set terrible legal precedents
― Clay, Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:18 (one year ago) link
and Biden's trying to present himself as the calmer, saner alternative to Trump's wild-eyed crazy act
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 June 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
And Biden like most Democrats is an institutionalist who doesn’t want to disturb “norms” or tradition.
― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 11 June 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
Oh man---even more bad details re police response, I think---was already pretty granular in prev. reports--this is summary of latest testimony in Texas legislature:https://link.motherjones.com/view/5eb474cbb01fd7378a5c1c4agqx0t.13x4/49c04054
― dow, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
Didn't realize they got there within 3 minutes---but then, of course--
― dow, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link
That the door might not have even been locked and the person in charge at the scene claiming he didn't know he was in charge...jfc
― Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link
https://apnews.com/article/alabama-birmingham-shootings-religion-1c773c7332c344e5ac30a1101cedeeef
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
Wow. Eva Mireles, a Uvalde teacher, called her husband and told him she had been shot and was dying.Her husband, a police officer, tried to take down the shooter but was detained by other officers and had his gun taken away. https://t.co/fPgfra6n5z— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) June 22, 2022
There's going to be a new horrifying piece of information every other day until the sun swallows us all
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 08:42 (one year ago) link
Alex Jones thinks this mass shooting was completely normal
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link
The cops really wanted this to happen huh? I was willing to ascribe the police’s actions to incompetence and cowardice but man now I’m starting to wonder if the cops were cheering this guy on.
― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link
I doubt that. I 100% believe they were all terrified of dying because god forbid any risk exist in LAW ENFORCEMENT and decided the kids had a long enough life and that the media would probably assume they did the best they could so they'd get away with being cowards.
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
otm. as school district cops i imagine that their days prior to this were spent yelling at kids for wearing 'inappropriate' outfits, directing parking lot traffic, collecting free coffee from nearby businesses, and basking in praise for being theoretical heroes without actually ever having to think about anything or do anything they didnt want to. they reacted like all lazy cops do: do as little as possible and hope that when its all over the buck wouldnt stop with them.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
I’m sure they always had the self image of being warriors who guard the sheep from the wolves, a special breed of hero needed for these ti—OH LORD HE HAS A GUN THATS DANGEROUS OK COFFEE BREAK
― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
It's been so wild to watch the whiplash as the pro-cop online bootlickers have 180'd from "these are fierce warriors who protect our society and need to be armed with the latest military gear to keep us all safe" to "what? it's dangerous to face a guy with an AR-15, whaddaya expect they should do? let's see you face down an armed man tough guy".
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
Or
"It could have made things WORSE to engage"
"It changed from active engagement to barracaded shooter with hostages"
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
If there was a choice, which would you pick?— johncusack.eth (@johncusacketh) June 21, 2022
Vote didn't go how he thought
― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link
98% of americans support k*ll*ng the police. dems: where is your leadership on this?????
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, June 22, 2022 11:28 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yup. I'm from the Making a Murderer town and it was wild watching people concoct all these convoluted theories about a police coverup as though there was some tightlipped plot to frame Steven Avery. I know these people. I know what the cops are like. I've seen them bust up parties. I've seen them do "investigative" work. I watched them detain and harass my brother, who stupidly threw his backpack behind a bush when he saw them at 2 AM, thinking it had drugs in it when it actually didn't. They're the same people I went to school with and they are bullies to the core, and one of the core traits of a bully is they run away when shit gets real. They didn't botch the investigation because they were trying to hide anything, they botched it because the only thing they know how to do is intimidate and harass. They love nothing more than to respond to a noise complaint and hand out a bunch of underages while simultaneously hitting on the 19 year old girls there. Of course they were gonna screw it up. And if, God forbid, there's a shooting at a school here, I am sure it would be the same story. They don't know how to handle an active shooter situation. They shouldn't have to know. But they know how to fuck with civilians so that's all they'd do.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
the police in this country are trained to be terrified. their training is very good.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
New Footage Shows Uvalde Police Rushing Into School To Take Selfies With Shooter https://t.co/bW4vYDZcE8 pic.twitter.com/h9hd8u1cib— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 22, 2022
― rob, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
harsh but fair
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 23 June 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link
So this school is in my neighborhood and is where my children will go. I'm pissed they're charging this kid as an adult. Any idea which representative would be the one to contact? Can't tell if it's city or county jurisdiction
A Maryland teenager is being charged as an adult for taking an untraceable, loaded ghost gun to school Thursday, police said. https://t.co/PmwNxfu0Hx— Tracee Wilkins (@TraceeWilkins) June 24, 2022
― Heez, Friday, 24 June 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link