Second being worst or whatever if I understood that
― gyac, Saturday, 11 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
☺ lol thank you both. besides really enjoying everyone's presence, it was not a very serious post. hence why it's here.
― I'm ANTIFA and I vote. (Austin), Saturday, 11 June 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link
trying to work out the exact moment this died, and can only conclude 'this thread' in answer
― imago, Sunday, 12 June 2022 07:48 (one year ago) link
Yet you still post.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 June 2022 09:30 (one year ago) link
I was talking about Dall-E you preposterous cretin
― imago, Sunday, 12 June 2022 11:11 (one year ago) link
My post stands.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 June 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link
Lol
― Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 12 June 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/8jyFCRQ/Screenshot-20220612-124126.jpg
― imago, Sunday, 12 June 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link
looks like sad arshavin.jpg lol
― imago, Sunday, 12 June 2022 11:46 (one year ago) link
sad arshavin who had an accident with a toxic tankie
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
this is in actual response to posts itt - where the hell do people use the word 'tankie' irl? is it a british university thing?
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link
It's twitter, or anarchists but you won't find that here.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link
are these anarchists also just online personalities though.
i'm having trouble imagining anyone uttering the word 'tankie' in a room together.
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
i have uttered it IRL but I hang with anarchists so ... ?
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
earlier this week -- I was hanging w/my friend Jenny who was telling me that near the end of the Anarchist Bookfair, there was a table of tankies and there was some kind of drama that I wasn't entirely clear on because neither of us had gone, but her husband did and told her about this.
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
thank you for clarifying this, i'm glad they exist and cause drama with anarchists irl, though i think i sympathize more with the anarchists.
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
Tankies attended an Anarchist book fair? Oh no! xp
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
a table of tankies
iirc that is the correct plural noun for a group of tankies
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link
xyzzz, apparently so! Jenny and I lamented missing the excitement.
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:51 PM (forty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
^^ I also lol-ed at this
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
not just "twinkle fingers" but IRL lol
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
i did a high pitched huhuh like a goat
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
yo is it true anarchists got sonned by a tankie after a book fair beef??????
― ✖, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link
actually, it was the tankies that got sonned by the anarchists lol
― sarahell, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link
lolol. I also hear 'tankie' (and have used it) irl, but I also hang out with anarchists (I'm a goddamned commie but have anarchist sympathies).
― emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
I definitely use it in conversation but that’s because I fucking hate tankies and Maoist facefuck types so so much, just absolutely empty and nihilistic ideology
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Sunday, 12 June 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map)
anywhere people expressing gratitude in a cloyingly affected way, probably
the whole concept of "irl", i spent like two years only talking to one other person irl so... idk. strict divides between online and in-person discourse don't work for me.
mostly it's like _jargon_, leftist _jargon_, i mean where the hell do people use the word "cisheteronormativity" in person, right? well, anywhere you're in person with me, because it's a word that's relevant to my life, i use that word a lot. just because leftist debates are largely irrelevant to people outside leftist circles doesn't mean those disputes are, like, these bitter fights over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin or some shit that's presumably removed from reality.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link
hi! it was a question. i don't hear it in my red state. it's my experience that people are very different on the internet than they are irl. ohmygosh i used irl. sorry not sorry. anyway if you read the exchange past my post maybe you would have seen that someone provided some clarity for me. not everything is about you. thanks!
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link
i'm not sure what this is in reference to but i'm feeling a little attacked.
i'm sorry if i overreacted with my sarcastic tone but your response to me is out of line in a few ways. of course i understand that there isn't a strict divide between online and in-person discourse. but i think you know that and you're eager to mischaracterize me.
and then to take the term 'tankie' and generalize about jargon, like 'tankie' isn't very different from a word like 'cisheteronormativity,' completely missing the the fact that 'tankie' is a derogatory term applied to communists by other people... like, you're so eager to get from what i said to ... you... that you don't mind losing a few contextual frames to speed up the process.
anyway, if you have a problem with me, you can tell me straight up instead of twisting my words to your own ends ok?
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:20 (one year ago) link
" anywhere people expressing gratitude in a cloyingly affected way, probably
i'm not sure what this is in reference to but i'm feeling a little attacked."
it was a pun, "tankie" = "t'ank ye" or something similar, nothing to do with the rest of the post
my post wasn't really about you, it was mostly an unrelated vent about my own frustrations, and i admit to posting in haste, i try not to do that but i'm not at my peak right now
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link
wow, ok. i posted my response in haste too, and it's also very much not about you! i suspected i was reacting in a triggered way but i did anyway. i'm sorry.
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link
You can't have second thoughts here, this is the oh wait never mind
― Armenian Idol (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link
absolutely forgiven, things can get heated and honestly i jumped to conclusions in some ways too. we're good!
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:42 (one year ago) link
👍👍
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 04:46 (one year ago) link
Anarchos on tankies.
Can the hammer and sickle crew occasionally please just chill the fuck out pic.twitter.com/nzvVwBJXbH— Victims of Capitalism Memorial Foundation (@karaokecomputer) June 12, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link
'tankie' is a derogatory term applied to communists by other people
See, I recognise that this is often the case now, but as an addendum to my post about using it irl I should point out that 'tankie' does not and should not mean 'communist'. Tankies are Stalin supporters/authoritarian regime apologists.
― emil.y, Monday, 13 June 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link
^^ that's what I always thought
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link
Ditto, it's obviously that.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 13 June 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link
in the late 50s in the uk it was an crit applied across a division within uk communism, of those in favour of the crushing of the hungarian uprising by those dismayed by said crushing(upshot was primarily the emergence of the uk new left: e.p.thompson, stuart hall, perry anderson etc)
in the 80s in the uk it was an crit applied across division within the far left, of those of the invasion of afghanistan by those critical of the soviet regime in various ways (upshot was a second fracture of the uk communist party -- conservativew wing vs eurocommuists -- and an intensified hostility towards both wings of same from the many flavours of trots, the latter being the species of far left org that best articulated the aftermath of may 1968, linking the prague spring to solidarnosc as models of a revived left)
from the 90s in the uk it began to break free of intra-communist discourse, as ppl formerly on the far left as students began to find their feet in the non-communist parliamentary left and used it to mock the inablity of the old far left to "modernise" (modernise being a term with a variety of meanings in the event: the kpunk wing of the far left were just as scornful of the traditional far left as the newly careetist nu-centre were, and tankie was a term often deployed in that scorn) since the 00s it has increasingly simply een an online insult -- and occasional an ironised online self-identification -- which has broken fully free of uk secatrian parochialism and could often honestly just be swapped out for "bot" (or "trot") for a particular kind of teenage channer trolling complete with left-informed wojacks and etc. it no longer applies to membership of anything resembling a political party of organisation that a 56-er tankie would recognise as left politics at all -- and you more and more hear it as a dismissal in the mouths of ppl not remotely on the left (at which point it doesn't really overlap with the meanings and implications a lefty with a sense of history probably hears in it)
― mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link
That’s a far better post than this discussion deserved.
― gyac, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
everyone's going crazy for Tank-E, the new AI engine that generates purely political content to the prompt of your choosing!
― imago, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link
― gyac, Monday, 13 June 2022 bookmarkflaglink
Let ppl enjoy things!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link
damn thanks for the historical perspective mr. s
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 13 June 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link
The gods gifted the young mark s with a great talent to write fluently, quirkily, and confidently, looking like he can manipulate theoretical frameworks with ease, displaying huge depths of knowledge and insider knowledge. But they cursed him with a bluffer’s love for using empty jargon, and temptation go far too far with assertions…
― Luna Schlosser, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
also typos
― mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
typos are the spice of a post, though, i think
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
Tarragon?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
Herb
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
since the 00s it has increasingly simply een an online insult
A bonny blue een?
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link