Elon Musk

plus they're more likely to burn to death in a Tesla because they can't open the door

guys, the libertarians owning teslas have been there the whole time. utopian tech nerd overlap

― mh, Wednesday, June 15, 2022 3:56 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they were the first buyers, sure, but it's like an expensive prius now in california, i.e. totally mainstream family car.

pour one out for the Teslas silently driving themselves back to the dealership in the wake of crypto crashing

:)

A single tear coming from a headlight.

libertarian Wall -E

I wear headphones when walking so I have no way of even suspecting if a car is a tesla

very much enjoyed dlh’s little sketch tho

They are one of the most popular cars here in Vancouver. A lot of older guys mostly I think. My friend bought one when he retired and theres like 5 on his block. First time I was in it he wanted to demonstrate the self-drive thing, although we were screaming at him not to. The car immediately sped up to 20km over the speed limit (this was in a place where deer regularly leap out onto the road). When we got to our destination his seat automatically started tipping him out the door, which had the effect of crushing my foot, because I was jammed in the cramped back seat. I actually thought it was going to break bones but in the end it was ok probably only because I had boots on.
More seriously, he couldn't even find the proper version of Daddy Cool by Boney M on the special Tesla streaming radio thing. Only a 2000s remix. Crap car.

lmao

xxp they’re the ones that accelerate toward you when you’re using a crosswalk

the guy I’m acquainted with who has a Tesla used to have an override installed on the a/v console in the middle of the dashboard in a prior car that’d allow it to play video while the car was moving

we used to joke that some day he’d end up flying off the interstate while watching dave matthews live at the gorge

Musk bearish on Twitter.

Tesla founder Elon Musk said the key to his electric automaker's value is whether it can achieve self-driving technology, adding that the firm would be "worth basically zero" without it. pic.twitter.com/PAxBAHPv3k

— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) June 16, 2022

they really did miss the window where they could have just licensed/sold all the baseline electric car stuff they were ahead on by now, huh?

idk there a bunch of companies that do that sort of thing, teslas trying to make cars, take on the big guys

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51JYWW7A9ZL._SY445_.jpg

das alotta sauce baby

I'm so old, I can remember when Tesla's pitch for the $100k Roadster was that it would fund a Model S that started at $50k, which in turn would fund a Model 3 that started at $35k.

The cheapest Tesla you can buy today is $48,490 out the door.
https://t.co/pKV0WvkDNv

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) June 16, 2022

imagine having 100k to spend on a car and thinking "im going to buy a tesla" absolutely freakin psychotic

I got to ride in a Rivian last week, an electric truck which has a lot of the same cool features the Tesla has but with a much better interior & a way more intuitive center console. it's also free of all the glitches and quirks that Teslas have. it occurred to me that Tesla is in the Sega Dreamcast phase, I don't know how they'll compete with the big boys when all that technology starts coming standard. they kinda suck at making cars.

yep

https://www.tesla.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me

written in 2006

$35,000 in 2006 is worth $50,745 today

i don't follow elon's predictions too closely but it seems like he was saying similar stuff in 2008:

.@elonmusk discussing electric vehicles in 2008 as tesla was nearly out of cash.
pic.twitter.com/q41Tw9bfx9

— Tesla Owners Silicon Valley (@teslaownersSV) October 26, 2021

35K in 2008 is $47.5 today

Our Tesla owning neighbor recently added an electric Porsche to his fleet. He's still got the Tesla, but honestly, if you can afford a car that *starts* at $50k, let alone higher (the Porsche is iirc something like $90k), then I don't see *why* you would go Tesla when you could go with any other luxury car. Like, two or three times this week I've seen one of the new electric Mustangs. Looks like they start at around $43k. A few months ago I saw an Aston Martin SUV (base is $176,000). Those who want something more modest seem to be leaning Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt, which are in the ... $30k+ range?

One of the most fervent Tesla proselytizers I've talked with stressed the pioneering, market penetrating power of the Tesla *brand*, which he likened to Apple. But what Musk seems to be doing, as far as this armchair hater can tell, is working overtime to harm the brand while failing to scale up the quality or affordability of the cars themselves. That seems like a poor strategy. Like, what was that comedian's hot off the presses take on Dave Chappelle? "Chappelle, do you know what comes up when you Google your name, bro? That’s the legacy?" It's getting to the point where the last thing anyone thinks of when they hear the name Tesla is the car, and the first is Elon Musk, and what a douchebag clown he is.

funny detail that a lot of the tech that tesla and now other electric car makers are putting in their cars is stuff that people actively dont want and/or is just dangerous

The only way to know for sure is to make fart noises an optional feature on every car and see how many people bite.

Musk should announce hologram truck nuts.

waiting for the reveal that the entire Musk/Tesla empire has been a long con operation by the Big Three, hoping to ruin the reputation of electric cars by association with bad build quality, self-crashing autopilot, and an omnipresent douchebag

35K in 2008 is $47.5 today

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:57 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah he was still saying it would cost 35k when they launched it five years ago tho, iirc they did sell a handful of them at that price but quickly raised it

bad build quality, self-crashing autopilot, and an omnipresent douchebag

lol these clauses can both be describing Musk!

the fact that screens have become such a lux symbol in cars just sucks dont we get enough of these things

https://i0.wp.com/evtak.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/motor1-1.jpg

saw a study the other day that a driver fucking with the car screen has a way slower reaction time than a drunk

still buttons on the steering wheel why isnt there a screen wtf

should make just the entire interior a big continuous screen

instead of buying a car just look at computer

those seats look really comfortable though and with the blue lights if i took a long drive in it i would probably fall asleep

You guys are actually making me want to buy a car.

play a soothing youtube on all my mercedes eqs screens falling asleep and driving into the ocean

"Wave of Mutilation" was predicting the future

Trying to navigate Atlanta rush hour traffic looking like Tom Cruise in Minority Report

oh my god. this all hands.

Idk I drove a car w a big screen on a road trip a couple of years ago and I liked it a lot for map/navigation, large format music/audio display, and making calls on the road. Bigger text in the display means having to peer at it less, taking your eyes off the road. Plus you need one screen that is the control for multiple systems as opposed to your dash having a lot of control panels.

liveblog it!

Not gonna lie, the wireless nonskid device charging pad was nice too.

PS it was not a Tesla but I can't wait to find out what kind of meeting caek is being subjected to.

you need one screen that is the control for multiple systems as opposed to your dash having a lot of control panels.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:47 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

physical buttons >>>

afaict it's being liveblogged generally accurately in the NYT and bloomberg and verge.

those writers are doing a lot of work to make him sound like he's got a three figure IQ and is experienced in talking to humans using the english language. so just imagine the liveblog but stupid.

xp Make your case but I disagree. Maybe I haven't been in a really well-designed car for a while but dashboards are dark, buttons are dark, print is small, and everything below chest-level is too low to see without leaning over (I am old).

I have a 2005 Outback with 190k on it— it is the barebones model, absolutely nothing fancy except a slightly nicer after-market stereo that it came with (I bought it used).

The 2016 Outback that my dad drives feels like a different universe— I can skip a song and change the volume using the steering wheel, ditto climate control, the car has enough sensors and stuff to essentially feel like it is "self-driving" when it's in cruise control, and so on. I don't care for navigation stuff or a lot of other "bells and whistles" of the car, but a lot of it is quite useful if you know how to use it without allowing it to distract.

I had saved up enough to buy it from him last year for a decent price (it has a few minor problems), but he backed out of it because the demand for new cars was such that he couldn't get himself a new one until 2023. Praying that my Outback lasts until then.

if you own a car you learn where the buttons are and can use them without even looking, which is a pretty big contrast to navigating computer menus, screens have their uses not everything can have a button, but putting the most commonly used things like climate control volume etc are hate crimes against drivers

some cars are putting air vents controls in the screen, the thing you used to just be able to reach out and manipulate now requires operating a computer, absolute madness

aw hell yeah lol

Musk is musing to Twitter employees about aliens.

"I have not seen actual evidence of aliens"

— Sheila Dang (@Sheila_Dang) June 16, 2022

lagoon massively otm about buttons. same reason i'm extremely vexed about the near-complete death of phones with physical qwerty keyboards. they're way, way, way faster and more reliable, and i don't have to look at the screen!

re: buttons vs. touch screens, I could have sworn I read that some very basic functions on the Tesla, and possibly many new cars with touch screens, take several on-screen navigations to get to what you need. Things like climate control. Defenders say "well, use voice control," but anyone with a phone (or who regularly uses voice to text) knows what a mess that can be.