a rare misstep in Jane Leeves's stellar career
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
I don't like her either tbh
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
Many of the actors who play Moon family members do not have specifically Mancunian English accents: Anthony LaPaglia and Richard E. Grant, who portray two of Daphne's brothers, were not even born in the United Kingdom (LaPaglia is Australian, and Grant was born in Eswatini). This apparent discrepancy is never addressed on the show, but may be taken as an in-joke (see below).
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link
"many"?????
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
think the word they were looking for was "none"
THE Richard E. Grant?
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link
I didn't know he was Swazi, but Mancunian-on-Frasier aside (I don't have any memory it) we're not seriously suggesting Grant can't do any convincing born-in-the-UK accents are we?
― rob, Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
Can't really imagine him pulling off a Manc accent tbf.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
yeah I agree with that, I'm just a) wondering about the implications of the thing gyac quoted about "not UK born" like how much does that really matter/explain? and b) wondering if I've missed that Grant can't even do a posh English accent, which would be surprising to me but I certainly don't have the ear for noticing it
― rob, Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
He's not really an African.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 July 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs (Mancunian Blues)
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 2 July 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link
She is really terrible and the accent isn’t even the half of it tbh
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Sunday, 3 July 2022 09:21 (one year ago) link
grant's wikipedia has a paragraph on his accent: tl;dr he grew up in a colonial subculture where the posh english of the 40s and 50s was still the norm until the 80s, and when he arrived in the uk in the 80s his resting speech reflected the pre-shift voicing (unspoken point: there was a noticeable vowel shift in british poshspeak in the 50s and 60s)
― mark s, Sunday, 3 July 2022 09:35 (one year ago) link
Yes but what are your thoughts on Daphne
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Sunday, 3 July 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link
there was a noticeable vowel shift in Mancunian accents in 1990s Seattle
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2022 09:59 (one year ago) link
"they're callin again"
― mark s, Sunday, 3 July 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link
I think the reason Daphne is bad, increasingly so as the show progresses, is because at the beginning she's intentionally one-dimensional and unknowable, the joke about Niles being secretly in love with her is predicated on him barely knowing her and not having any real connection with her, she's like Kramer in the Seinfeld or Jim In Taxi, this person who pops up an makes quirky non-sequiturs. When she becomes part of the family they get rid of the quirks and she just ends up being one-dimensional in a dull way.
I don't mind Daphne's family of cockney Mancunians though, in the same way you wouldn't complain about Inspector Clouseau or Rene from Allo Allo not being convincing portrayals of Frenchmen
― soref, Sunday, 3 July 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link
as a general rule of thumb marriages of long-running sitcom characters = the death of the show
glaring exception being Bob and Thelma obv
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2022 10:52 (one year ago) link
anyway last night i came to the conclusion that good Frazier = Roz, Niles, Martin, some of the chorus, bad Frazier = the rest
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2022 10:54 (one year ago) link
Roz undisputed classichttps://jacquelineristola.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/screen-shot-2015-06-08-at-8-27-28-pm.png
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link
i'm going to stop Roz-posting for the sake of my own dignity at this point in time
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:10 (one year ago) link
regain yr dignity by posting abt eddie
― mark s, Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link
Best actor in the series.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link
okay i think we can all agree on Eddie
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:39 (one year ago) link
we can: his manchester accent also sucks
― mark s, Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:42 (one year ago) link
Better than Anthony LaPaglia's though.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:46 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_JMSE-Mto
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Sunday, 3 July 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link
as a general rule of thumb marriages of long-running sitcom characters = the death of the showglaring exception being Bob and Thelma obv― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 3, 2022 10:52 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 3, 2022 10:52 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, because usually they've run out of things that the characters might do, and the last one is 'marry'
Obv, Bob & Thelma exception, there were other things they could do...
― Mark G, Sunday, 3 July 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
What thread is this, anyway?...
― Mark G, Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link
Sorry this started off due to mark talking about this in the pub, it’s not on a thread that I’ve seen
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
mark the source and receiver. good ole "monopolar mark".
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link
Ugh, that is a bad physics joke and I know nothing about any marks stugggling with bipolar disorder, so apologies if that is there.
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
and the physics was also incorret lol
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
I'll be over here in my chair, Eddie in my lap, wondering what the educated people are talking about.
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
i didn't even own a TV then ...
― sarahell, Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
Everybody rise, riseRise, riseRise, riseRise, riseRise
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
sarahell, i hope you received that joke in good spirits. It was a call back to your sondheim post that I enjoyed.
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 July 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link
yes, thank you, I got that immediately!
― sarahell, Monday, 4 July 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link
Worst Malone
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 4 July 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link
Can’t believe youn is lowering the tone of this thread, now to get back to my regular schedule of posts by Van Horn Street and all the other big political thinkers!
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Monday, 4 July 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
The sniping is unnecessary.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 July 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
Your return was unnecessary
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Monday, 4 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
You are choosing to interact with me. You can choose not to. I haven't said anything remotely controversial in that thread. I'm asking you to either bury the hatchet or leave me alone, feels like this place could do with a little less sniping and anger.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 July 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link
A source close to the investigation tells CBS 2's Sabrina Franza the suspect is in custody after this morning's deadly mass shooting in Highland Park. https://t.co/5L95ggwPCk https://t.co/JE91R9ii41— CBS Chicago (@cbschicago) July 4, 2022
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 4 July 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link
Whoops sorry wrong thewad
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 4 July 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link
Timely, though
― Mark G, Monday, 4 July 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link
― Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
Thank you Luna Schlosser, do make sure to show some concern to youn’s boundaries, assuming you actually care and aren’t still sore about some past interaction.
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
Lots of maskless octogenarians at my mother’s wake
― Mr. Art-I-Ficial (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link
(someone on another site posted about having to go to jail for dwi and since I'm not American I can maybe guess what that is but I was going to ask...)Dancing With Intent? Drumming While Inexperienced? Discussion With Inlaws?(... maybe let's not)
― StanM, Friday, 8 July 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link