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the luxury meth bunker, now with wifi and cell phone signal repeaters for livestreaming your assassinations

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

Thought that was a very pedestrian episode. Drawing out the Lalo-Gus showdown for 10 minutes just didn't work for me. Gus lives, Lalo dies--we know that already.

Hey, I was appreciating how they got it over with so quickly and straight-forwardly! Was expecting Gus to start ordering the shooting of all the hanging bags of laundry.

I was thinking that they seem to be taking steps to not have Kim meet Gus right now. Thinking the henchman (was he an actual decoy?) was the target, then having Gus speak to her over the phone.

whats interesting to me is in the BB timeline Saul thinks that Lalo is still alive while Gus thinks he's dead.

Good spot. I thought it was notable how Mike says 'he's not coming back' - euphemistic but without explicitly saying what happened.

kinder, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

next they kill Cliff

xp and yeah, really awful how they have to keep going with their horrible Howard lies.

kinder, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

i'm glad they dispatched Lalo now. there was zero drama to gain by drawing it out over the remaining episodes. just do it and be legends, man

She moves to Sweden and changes her name to Robyn

― Evan, Monday, July 11, 2022 11:38 AM bookmarkflaglink

wait, so then who was "Show Me Love" Robyn?

Ah, there's a spare one just for this purpose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show_Me_Love_(Robin_S._song)

kinder, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

I love how they go right up to the line where Lalo seems to have superhuman abilities, and then very briefly cross it in the scene where he pops out to effortlessly take out three of Gus's goons instantly at the laundry

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

Since Lalo needs to film his showdown with Gus, I'll give them a pass on one of the oldest movie cliches there is: instead of just shooting him right away, Lalo talks and gloats and talks some more till he ends up dead.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

Anyone getting Peep Show vibes from Kim as she walked up to the house
https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/peepshow/S01E05/S01E05-JcTlD5kH-subtitled.jpg

I mean actually, she was totally going to do it

kinder, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

I think she was too

I'll be interested to see what they do with the rest of the series now Howard and Lalo are no longer with us. Maybe people start asking Jimmy and Kim awkward questions about Howard and the cartel start pressuring Fring. They'll figure out that he took down Lalo sooner rather than later. Or maybe they don't really care

paolo, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

They seemed to be telegraphing that Lalo breaks into the under construction dry cleaner meth lab, gets killed by Gus, and gets buried when they pour the concrete floor for the lab.

― Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:47 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Good shout!

paolo, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

So Gus knew Lalo was at the laundry and went there to finish him off right? That seems a bit implausible when they make such a big deal out of how cautious he is

paolo, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

Gus has to stop Lalo getting evidence of the lab to Eladio though or he's fucked.

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

They showed him planting the gun there a few episodes ago. He knew this is where things would end. It was all about the lab for Lalo

I take it Jimmy and Kim are finished after this. We know Jimmy can move on from this guilt (as proved by breaking bad) but I just can't see Kim taking it. I think the upcoming tragedy is that Kim needs to be taken out because her integrity keeps her from keeping the story going. That said, I don't know how they write Jimmy around that situation, yeah he has a crazy high self-preservation instinct, but can he go on if Kim get's whacked/whacks herself? I can't see Kim taking the vacuum cleaner after this one, seems like it would be an even worse reality for her compared to the options of living with it or ending it.

The sad thing is, you know this is not going to end with an ice happy bow on it. If one thing is true in the BB/BCS universe, it's that you get what you give and sometimes you get what you didn't give for the worse. As much as I'd prefer it otherwise, Kim's going to get her just deserts.

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

(Cinnabon)

mh, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

She goes by there one day in disguise (having gained 200 lbs.) "Makes" Jimmy, like he says, cabbie & stooge bring him to her, she's so excited, dies of a 300 lb. heart attack. Her 300 cats eat her and Jimmy.

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link

She's from Nebraska!

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link

this is the pilot of What's Eating Jim & Kim?

hmm, what other spinoff COULD we cull from this universe

Meet The Kettlemens! Pre-prequel.

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

amazing how some dude embezzling a million dollars of government money led to the downfall of Mexico's most brutal drug cartel

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

Off the top of my head, spinoffs I would like to see would involve Huell, the film students and Lyle. Possibly all together

paolo, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 09:24 (one year ago) link

So Gus knew Lalo was at the laundry and went there to finish him off right? That seems a bit implausible when they make such a big deal out of how cautious he is

― paolo, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:37 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Gus has to stop Lalo getting evidence of the lab to Eladio though or he's fucked.

― Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:28 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I could have been clearer there. What I meant was it seems unlikely that Gus would go to take down Lalo himself rather than just send his goons to do it. I know he had plenty of said goons with him but still

paolo, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 09:26 (one year ago) link

A sitcom where Edwina Galbraith inherits her father's vacuum cleaner business and quickly comes to learn what that entails. Maybe it can be called This Sucks!

Don't think Gus trusts anyone else to be able to take down Lalo by that point, even Mike

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 10:21 (one year ago) link

They showed him planting the gun there a few episodes ago. He knew this is where things would end. It was all about the lab for Lalo


What is lalo but lab written funny

But yeah they’ve been building up that gus has been bugged by what lalo has been up to out there all this time and suspects it’s tracking down the lab, but also that he fucking HATES all this, hiding, wearing body armour to his respectable job, not being in control, for probably months at this point, and he’s going to act.

Lalo & gus are playing that movie-chess where your plan involves predicting exactly how your opponent will react to a supernatural degree of accuracy but really there are multiple points where it could have easily gone wrong for either of them: gus could have caught on to the Kim-tell earlier, could have called Mike as soon as he did instead of going off by himself; lalo could have shot sooner; that last shootout could have gone any way (gus got lucky and knows it)

Thought this was a brilliant ep, I’m used to this show operating in so many different modes but sometimes it knows to stay on the genre rails for a stretch and it’s so damn assured, everything proceeds elegantly from the characters and the execution(s) is about as good as you’ll get anywhere in any medium - so many neat touches. Loved especially Lalo’s jokerfied last gasp

(Preordained outcomes aren’t an issue for me, I’ve even been known to see a film twice)

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 11:56 (one year ago) link

Saw someone point out that in BB S5E1 Hank and Gomez say they found two unidentified bodies under the lab, man the writing on this show is crazy

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

Lalo shooting all 4 of Gus's men so easily was pretty ridiculous. Almost like we're meant to think it was darker than it was shown on screen.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

Was that not the two guys who were guarding Jesse that Walt shoots in the finale of Season 4? xp

groovypanda, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

Didn’t they dissolve those guys in the acid? idk I don’t think that line registered for me at all at the time

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

Lalo & gus are playing that movie-chess where your plan involves predicting _exactly_ how your opponent will react to a supernatural degree of accuracy

Over-flattering description. I think the acting and especially the photography and direction are so superior to the script, which is entertaining hokum but not great.

Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

Saw someone point out that in BB S5E1 Hank and Gomez say they found two unidentified bodies under the lab, man the writing on this show is crazy


!

calstars, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

also this

Was Lalo actually in breaking bad? If this is him that’s crazy #BetterCallSaul #BreakingBad pic.twitter.com/cr9ffzhae8

— TimeChamber_ (@TimeChamber_) July 13, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

comments in the tread seem to indicate that was meant to be Tuco, but it certainly lines up

mh, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

a lot of this shit is just retrofitted as well

lol, yes

I only watched it on a plane so I was fairly distracted. Is there anything in that one-off El Camino movie that holds up? Lots of vacuum cleaner guy, I guess.

mh, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

hoping for a little Robert Forster shot long in advance

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

El Camino was aight, nothing I'd ever return to.

that last shootout could have gone any way (gus got lucky and knows it)

I kind of enjoyed how this is the face-to-face Big Duel that's been building up for seasons and we don't even really see it

kinder, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

What do you mean? I saw it

Evan, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

the actual shots took place in a couple quick seconds after Gus killed the lights!

mh, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

But the audience still sees it all happen. The only thing we didn't see immediately is whether Lalo escaped into the darkness or got hit.

Evan, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

Exactly, we don't see the "good guy" hitting the "bad guy".

kinder, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

While coolly saying "YOU do the meth"
or "I've got a little some FRING for you"

kinder, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

I GUS you can LA-LO down here... forever.

Evan, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

Weirdly the version on my DVR cut out for the last minute and a half of the shootout. Had to watch a YouTube rip to see Lalo laughing at Gus' tough guy stance as he passed.

DJI, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

lol they are having fun with this

Together Forever.#BetterCallSaul pic.twitter.com/YVxDnJL6qN

— Patrick Fabian (@PatrickFabian) July 13, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Why was Michael Mando in the credits of this episode?

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link


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