Better Call Saul

Since Lalo needs to film his showdown with Gus, I'll give them a pass on one of the oldest movie cliches there is: instead of just shooting him right away, Lalo talks and gloats and talks some more till he ends up dead.

Anyone getting Peep Show vibes from Kim as she walked up to the house
https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/peepshow/S01E05/S01E05-JcTlD5kH-subtitled.jpg

I mean actually, she was totally going to do it

I think she was too

I'll be interested to see what they do with the rest of the series now Howard and Lalo are no longer with us. Maybe people start asking Jimmy and Kim awkward questions about Howard and the cartel start pressuring Fring. They'll figure out that he took down Lalo sooner rather than later. Or maybe they don't really care

They seemed to be telegraphing that Lalo breaks into the under construction dry cleaner meth lab, gets killed by Gus, and gets buried when they pour the concrete floor for the lab.

― Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:47 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Good shout!

So Gus knew Lalo was at the laundry and went there to finish him off right? That seems a bit implausible when they make such a big deal out of how cautious he is

Gus has to stop Lalo getting evidence of the lab to Eladio though or he's fucked.

They showed him planting the gun there a few episodes ago. He knew this is where things would end. It was all about the lab for Lalo

I take it Jimmy and Kim are finished after this. We know Jimmy can move on from this guilt (as proved by breaking bad) but I just can't see Kim taking it. I think the upcoming tragedy is that Kim needs to be taken out because her integrity keeps her from keeping the story going. That said, I don't know how they write Jimmy around that situation, yeah he has a crazy high self-preservation instinct, but can he go on if Kim get's whacked/whacks herself? I can't see Kim taking the vacuum cleaner after this one, seems like it would be an even worse reality for her compared to the options of living with it or ending it.

The sad thing is, you know this is not going to end with an ice happy bow on it. If one thing is true in the BB/BCS universe, it's that you get what you give and sometimes you get what you didn't give for the worse. As much as I'd prefer it otherwise, Kim's going to get her just deserts.

(Cinnabon)

She goes by there one day in disguise (having gained 200 lbs.) "Makes" Jimmy, like he says, cabbie & stooge bring him to her, she's so excited, dies of a 300 lb. heart attack. Her 300 cats eat her and Jimmy.

She's from Nebraska!

this is the pilot of What's Eating Jim & Kim?

hmm, what other spinoff COULD we cull from this universe

Meet The Kettlemens! Pre-prequel.

amazing how some dude embezzling a million dollars of government money led to the downfall of Mexico's most brutal drug cartel

Off the top of my head, spinoffs I would like to see would involve Huell, the film students and Lyle. Possibly all together

So Gus knew Lalo was at the laundry and went there to finish him off right? That seems a bit implausible when they make such a big deal out of how cautious he is

― paolo, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:37 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Gus has to stop Lalo getting evidence of the lab to Eladio though or he's fucked.

― Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:28 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I could have been clearer there. What I meant was it seems unlikely that Gus would go to take down Lalo himself rather than just send his goons to do it. I know he had plenty of said goons with him but still

A sitcom where Edwina Galbraith inherits her father's vacuum cleaner business and quickly comes to learn what that entails. Maybe it can be called This Sucks!

Don't think Gus trusts anyone else to be able to take down Lalo by that point, even Mike

They showed him planting the gun there a few episodes ago. He knew this is where things would end. It was all about the lab for Lalo

Saw someone point out that in BB S5E1 Hank and Gomez say they found two unidentified bodies under the lab, man the writing on this show is crazy

Lalo shooting all 4 of Gus's men so easily was pretty ridiculous. Almost like we're meant to think it was darker than it was shown on screen.

Was that not the two guys who were guarding Jesse that Walt shoots in the finale of Season 4? xp

Didn’t they dissolve those guys in the acid? idk I don’t think that line registered for me at all at the time

Lalo & gus are playing that movie-chess where your plan involves predicting _exactly_ how your opponent will react to a supernatural degree of accuracy

Over-flattering description. I think the acting and especially the photography and direction are so superior to the script, which is entertaining hokum but not great.

Saw someone point out that in BB S5E1 Hank and Gomez say they found two unidentified bodies under the lab, man the writing on this show is crazy

also this

Was Lalo actually in breaking bad? If this is him that’s crazy #BetterCallSaul #BreakingBad pic.twitter.com/cr9ffzhae8

— TimeChamber_ (@TimeChamber_) July 13, 2022

comments in the tread seem to indicate that was meant to be Tuco, but it certainly lines up

a lot of this shit is just retrofitted as well

lol, yes

I only watched it on a plane so I was fairly distracted. Is there anything in that one-off El Camino movie that holds up? Lots of vacuum cleaner guy, I guess.

hoping for a little Robert Forster shot long in advance

El Camino was aight, nothing I'd ever return to.

that last shootout could have gone any way (gus got lucky and knows it)

I kind of enjoyed how this is the face-to-face Big Duel that's been building up for seasons and we don't even really see it

What do you mean? I saw it

the actual shots took place in a couple quick seconds after Gus killed the lights!

But the audience still sees it all happen. The only thing we didn't see immediately is whether Lalo escaped into the darkness or got hit.

Exactly, we don't see the "good guy" hitting the "bad guy".

While coolly saying "YOU do the meth"
or "I've got a little some FRING for you"

I GUS you can LA-LO down here... forever.

Weirdly the version on my DVR cut out for the last minute and a half of the shootout. Had to watch a YouTube rip to see Lalo laughing at Gus' tough guy stance as he passed.

lol they are having fun with this

Together Forever.#BetterCallSaul pic.twitter.com/YVxDnJL6qN

— Patrick Fabian (@PatrickFabian) July 13, 2022

Why was Michael Mando in the credits of this episode?

good interview with the writer of the episode https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/better-call-saul-point-shoot-writer-interview-1378877/amp/

Why was Michael Mando in the credits of this episode?

― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, July 13, 2022 12:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

they gave him a series regular contract, so i think he appears in the credits of every episode

Still think the final meet-up and especially shoot-out in the dark(Gus got very lucky indeed, unless he's been practicing in the dark quite a bit, but even Lalo got lucky, in what was almost as dark on my screen) were hokey, but I know sometimes writers just gotta gotta get from A to Z, even if there's a bit of scribble in between (how did Walt get the ricin into Lydia's stevia packets?) It's okay, though; we're still zooming to z, and now no more "suspense" about the damn lab of ages, I hope.

I know it was a necessary mcguffin for Lalo, and I always wanted more Lalo, but geez I got tired of seeing Gus standing around looking worried---enjoyed the character much more in BB.

Although I guess he and Mike handled Lalo as well as they could, as most anyone could (wonder what Walt would do)(still waiting for him and Jesse and Carol Burnett, re press bit I pasted recently).

how did Walt get the ricin into Lydia's stevia packets?

That didn't seem that difficult for someone like Walt. Lydia was very much a creature of habit (think Walt even remarks something about her being "schedule oriented") so doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility for Walt to have sealed the doctored packet at home and slipped it into the box of condiments on the table Lydia always sat at before she arrives.

Yeah I think it’s pretty easy to supply the character doing diy montage™️ in your imagination there and (as with the brock thing ppl go nuts about it) they could have shown it but giving the game away would have taken from the reveal

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