Better Call Saul

They showed him planting the gun there a few episodes ago. He knew this is where things would end. It was all about the lab for Lalo

Saw someone point out that in BB S5E1 Hank and Gomez say they found two unidentified bodies under the lab, man the writing on this show is crazy

Lalo shooting all 4 of Gus's men so easily was pretty ridiculous. Almost like we're meant to think it was darker than it was shown on screen.

Was that not the two guys who were guarding Jesse that Walt shoots in the finale of Season 4? xp

Didn’t they dissolve those guys in the acid? idk I don’t think that line registered for me at all at the time

Lalo & gus are playing that movie-chess where your plan involves predicting _exactly_ how your opponent will react to a supernatural degree of accuracy

Over-flattering description. I think the acting and especially the photography and direction are so superior to the script, which is entertaining hokum but not great.

Saw someone point out that in BB S5E1 Hank and Gomez say they found two unidentified bodies under the lab, man the writing on this show is crazy

also this

Was Lalo actually in breaking bad? If this is him that’s crazy #BetterCallSaul #BreakingBad pic.twitter.com/cr9ffzhae8

— TimeChamber_ (@TimeChamber_) July 13, 2022

comments in the tread seem to indicate that was meant to be Tuco, but it certainly lines up

a lot of this shit is just retrofitted as well

lol, yes

I only watched it on a plane so I was fairly distracted. Is there anything in that one-off El Camino movie that holds up? Lots of vacuum cleaner guy, I guess.

hoping for a little Robert Forster shot long in advance

El Camino was aight, nothing I'd ever return to.

that last shootout could have gone any way (gus got lucky and knows it)

I kind of enjoyed how this is the face-to-face Big Duel that's been building up for seasons and we don't even really see it

What do you mean? I saw it

the actual shots took place in a couple quick seconds after Gus killed the lights!

But the audience still sees it all happen. The only thing we didn't see immediately is whether Lalo escaped into the darkness or got hit.

Exactly, we don't see the "good guy" hitting the "bad guy".

While coolly saying "YOU do the meth"
or "I've got a little some FRING for you"

I GUS you can LA-LO down here... forever.

Weirdly the version on my DVR cut out for the last minute and a half of the shootout. Had to watch a YouTube rip to see Lalo laughing at Gus' tough guy stance as he passed.

lol they are having fun with this

Together Forever.#BetterCallSaul pic.twitter.com/YVxDnJL6qN

— Patrick Fabian (@PatrickFabian) July 13, 2022

Why was Michael Mando in the credits of this episode?

good interview with the writer of the episode https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/better-call-saul-point-shoot-writer-interview-1378877/amp/

Why was Michael Mando in the credits of this episode?

― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, July 13, 2022 12:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

they gave him a series regular contract, so i think he appears in the credits of every episode

Still think the final meet-up and especially shoot-out in the dark(Gus got very lucky indeed, unless he's been practicing in the dark quite a bit, but even Lalo got lucky, in what was almost as dark on my screen) were hokey, but I know sometimes writers just gotta gotta get from A to Z, even if there's a bit of scribble in between (how did Walt get the ricin into Lydia's stevia packets?) It's okay, though; we're still zooming to z, and now no more "suspense" about the damn lab of ages, I hope.

I know it was a necessary mcguffin for Lalo, and I always wanted more Lalo, but geez I got tired of seeing Gus standing around looking worried---enjoyed the character much more in BB.

Although I guess he and Mike handled Lalo as well as they could, as most anyone could (wonder what Walt would do)(still waiting for him and Jesse and Carol Burnett, re press bit I pasted recently).

how did Walt get the ricin into Lydia's stevia packets?

That didn't seem that difficult for someone like Walt. Lydia was very much a creature of habit (think Walt even remarks something about her being "schedule oriented") so doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility for Walt to have sealed the doctored packet at home and slipped it into the box of condiments on the table Lydia always sat at before she arrives.

Yeah I think it’s pretty easy to supply the character doing diy montage™️ in your imagination there and (as with the brock thing ppl go nuts about it) they could have shown it but giving the game away would have taken from the reveal

it

That pic of Howard and Lalo is really quite sweet

but geez I got tired of seeing Gus standing around looking worried---enjoyed the character much more in BB.

― dow, Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This entire show messed up the Gus character. He was so much more compelling as the tidy unassuming businessman that drives a station wagon and makes all decisions in a cold businessman like way, which includes murdering an employee in front of the others to make a point, with the attitude of a corporate professional. In BCS he’s wearing dark suits with slicked back hair and getting driven around in black SUVs and scowling... just another cliche crime lord.

Agree with that. You'd expect the character to make the transition in the opposite direction...anyway, much more interesting in Breaking Bad.

one thing I don't really get is how he figured out that Lalo being talked into sending Kim = him going for the lab

Lalo being talked into a thing means that thing isn't important to him. So, what is important to him? Gotta be the lab. I agree it takes some squinting to make it look not-silly.

Talked out of a thing, I guess would be more accurate.

It's the whole Lalo-vs-Gus chess thing. If it doesn't matter which piece you've moved to make your play, then that move is probably part of something else and not relevant in itself

didn’t an earlier episode show gus obsessively measuring and studying every corner of the lab in anticipation with a confrontation with lalo?

yep

and pre-planting his gun

A probably stupid question: in Breaking Bad, when Gus meets his end, would he actually be able to walk out of that room under his own power?

it was than than a little fantastical, but the human body is capable of some wild things

when he died, his sphincter released and he farted and it propelled him out the door

The lengths people go to save face right? If only he'd turned the other cheek. Escalation just results in a blow up. If it happens, just walk away.

Was that not the two guys who were guarding Jesse that Walt shoots in the finale of Season 4? xp

― groovypanda, Wednesday, July 13, 2022 8:07 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yes. Definitely not Lalo and Howard.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the only charater I think Carol Burnett can play, with the time the show has left, is Kim's mom. We never found out her first name, right? Or did we?

If it is Marion Wexler and she's still in Nebraska, she could work pretty easily into Gene's storyline since he decided not to disappear after being made by the taxi driver (still think he's going back to ABQ though). Now, is Kim is still alive at this point? Doubt it, but I wouldn't hate it. Maybe Kim's mom gets to redeem herself in some way.

I am getting nervous that there are 5 episodes left and the Gene storyline hasn't moved all season. How are they going to fit all this in??

I'm wondering whether there'll be a large chunk of the final episode dedicated to the Gene storyline?

Also, 5 episodes left but other than Jimmy/Kim what else is there to resolve?

The last couple of seasons have been building toward the Lalo/Fring showdown and Kim & Jimmy vs Howard and both of those are now done.

Do the cartel even know Lalo survived the raid? He spoke to Hector but not sure he spoke to anyone else?

So we could even have four episodes of Jimmy & Kim and then the final one all Gene?

I can foresee Cliff Main factoring into the next episode or two. Didn't Howard actually have proof that he was set up?