In a similar vein, I recently learned the burpee was named after a man named Royal Huddleston Burpee.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 15 July 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
I always wondered why it was called that!
― kinder, Friday, 15 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link
I used to pronounce the exercise like the name of the Roman governor.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 15 July 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
I think the Roman guy would’ve pronounced it similarly in his day though, stress-wise at least
― Josefa, Friday, 15 July 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link
bought sunflower seeds yesterday, roasted and salted. hadn't realised you're not meant to eat the shells
ah yes that sounds similar to my first edamame experience
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
as to the original question: only recently did I realize that the term "button-down shirt" apparently refers to the collar being buttoned down. I guess I assumed it was a general term for shirts with fully buttoned fronts (as opposed to, say, t-shirts or pique shirts), but tbh I haven't given it a lot of thought.
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
cheap collars curl up or similar otherwise.
― Stevolende, Monday, 18 July 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link
Cheap Trick’s “Oh Claire” (the coda of Heaven Tonight) is a pun on the Wisconsin city Eau Claire.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 July 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
Misuse of “button-down” is a persistent pet peeve of mine. The “wrong” usage seems to be what I hear 80% of the time.
― Josefa, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link
https://lpsoncd.com/media/ecom/prodxl/NewhartBob-ButtonDownMindOf021.jpg
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
I did not know until today that that term referred to the collar. Like anatol_merklich, I thought it referred to the shirt front.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 July 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
I'm not surprised that that's what many people think. It could very well be a phrase that's in transition to the meaning you inferred.
― Josefa, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link
comedy doesn't often age well, but bob newhart records still crack me up
or maybe I just haven't aged well
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 July 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link
I feel like an idiot.
The amount of times I've gone looking for a button-down shirt with a spread collar...
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link
This is new information for me, too. I had always assumed "button-down" meant the shirt front. (Perhaps this is why I have also seen this type of shirt referred to as a "button-up" and thought those people were misnaming it...)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
First time I saw James Spader button his shirt from the top to the bottom in Sex, Lies and Videotape, I thought, OH I see, he is UNHINGED.
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link
What? People button their shirts starting at the bottom and ending at the collar? Why?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link
someone out there is starting from the middle to fuck with us
― mh, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link
To keep them from being misbuttoned?
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link
The actor Julian Glover is Robert Wyatt's half-brother.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 08:17 (one year ago) link
button-down collars were invented to stop them flapping up and down while riding a horse, specifically when playing polo i think.
― fetter, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 09:30 (one year ago) link
How come polo shirts don't have button down collars then? It's all so confusing.
― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 10:14 (one year ago) link
i recently learned that the chorus of the heptones "book of rules" does not - as i had believed for about 40 years - go "each is given a bag of tools a shapeless hat & a book of rules"
bummer
― black ark oakensaw (doo rag), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link
It doesn’t?
― L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 10:20 (one year ago) link
Huh, I just learned about this poem that Book of Rules quotes.
A Bag of Toolsby R. L. Sharpe
I SN'T IT strangeThat princes and kings,And clowns that caperIn sawdust rings,And common peopleLike you and meAre builders for eternity?
Each is given a bag of tools,A shapeless mass,A book of rules;And each must make—Ere life is flown—A stumbling blockOr a steppingstone.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 10:52 (one year ago) link
because polo shirts are for playing tennis in. hope that helps.
― fetter, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link
just discovered that Oasis also substantially ransacked the same poem for "Go Let it Out"!
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:47 (one year ago) link
Was just coming here to post the Julian Glover/Robert Wyatt one.
― Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link
He's also related to Woodrow Wyatt, but I guess that's more widely known
― fetter, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 10:21 (one year ago) link
I knew about Julian Glover but didn't know about Woodrow Wyatt but then he's probably been keeping that one quiet.
― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link
"The actor Julian Glover is Robert Wyatt's half-brother."
This comes from a lovely interview in The Guardian:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jul/19/julian-glover-empire-strikes-back-bond-indiana-jones-game-of-thrones-russell-crowe-prizefighter
I would have asked him (a) does he resent Charles Dance? (b) would he have been materially better-off if Charles Dance had met with a horrible accident in the early 1970s? (c) has he ever considered gifting Charles Dance a Porsche 911 with faulty brakes? (d) how does he feel when Charles Dance is cast in a role that could have gone to Julian Glover instead? (e) has he ever considered releasing a novelty hip-hop record under the name Julian G Lover?
Which is probably why The Guardian continues to refuse to hire me to interview people.
Along similar lines to button-down shirt, it took me a long time to comprehend that a fine-toothed comb was a fine-toothed comb, and not a "fine toothcomb".
― Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link
James Cleveland (JC) Owens the famous mid 30s runner was better known by a local pronunciation of his initials. Just came across that in Adam Rutherford's How To Argue With A Racist, not sure if I'd heard it earlier.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 21 July 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link
I like "my brother, Robert Wyatt, who’s a modern pop musician. Or he was, before he broke his back."(x-post)
― fetter, Thursday, 21 July 2022 09:54 (one year ago) link
when you think youve reached rock bottom
― mark s, Thursday, 21 July 2022 10:11 (one year ago) link
It's just a rumour that they spread around town.
― Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
the title of rush's 1980 album "permanent waves" is derived from the formal title of the hairstyle more commonly known as the "perm".
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link
It's also a play on "New Wave" music, of course.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
They did like an album cover pun, those lads
― ~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
i just was driving around and saw someone with an actual perm yesterday and something clicked in my head
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link
In 1982, Lee told Rolling Stone Magazine that the album's title referred to "a theory that was going [within the band] about, like, culture waves; and there was a night when Neil said that a big album was like a permanent wave and I told him, 'that's our title.'"
But also a pun on the hairstyle, to be sure.
― peace, man, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
Probably a more resonant pun than "Moving Pictures".
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
The Kinks beat them to it, there's a song called "Permanent Waves" on the "Misfits" album, admittedly it is partly about the hairstyle too.
― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
Holy shit, neither of these things ever occurred to me! (I just had a "Rubber Soul" moment.) Rush are kings of the dad-joke album title pun.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
The Kinks also have a song called "Moving Pictures"!?! Conspiracy?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
Wow, so they have!
― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
the original title for "Lola" was "2112"
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
20th Century Working Man
― pplains, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
Ayn Rand And All Of The Night
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link
^^ Just spit milk of paradise all over my keyboard.
― pplains, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
in the year 2112 people aren't catty bitches at you just for being trans
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link