Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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James Cleveland (JC) Owens the famous mid 30s runner was better known by a local pronunciation of his initials.
Just came across that in Adam Rutherford's How To Argue With A Racist, not sure if I'd heard it earlier.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 July 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link

I like "my brother, Robert Wyatt, who’s a modern pop musician. Or he was, before he broke his back."
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fetter, Thursday, 21 July 2022 09:54 (one year ago) link

when you think youve reached rock bottom

mark s, Thursday, 21 July 2022 10:11 (one year ago) link

It's just a rumour that they spread around town.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link

the title of rush's 1980 album "permanent waves" is derived from the formal title of the hairstyle more commonly known as the "perm".

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

It's also a play on "New Wave" music, of course.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

They did like an album cover pun, those lads

~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

i just was driving around and saw someone with an actual perm yesterday and something clicked in my head

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

In 1982, Lee told Rolling Stone Magazine that the album's title referred to "a theory that was going [within the band] about, like, culture waves; and there was a night when Neil said that a big album was like a permanent wave and I told him, 'that's our title.'"

But also a pun on the hairstyle, to be sure.

peace, man, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

Probably a more resonant pun than "Moving Pictures".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

The Kinks beat them to it, there's a song called "Permanent Waves" on the "Misfits" album, admittedly it is partly about the hairstyle too.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

the title of rush's 1980 album "permanent waves" is derived from the formal title of the hairstyle more commonly known as the "perm".

It's also a play on "New Wave" music, of course.

Holy shit, neither of these things ever occurred to me! (I just had a "Rubber Soul" moment.) Rush are kings of the dad-joke album title pun.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

The Kinks also have a song called "Moving Pictures"!?! Conspiracy?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

Wow, so they have!

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

the original title for "Lola" was "2112"

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

20th Century Working Man

pplains, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Ayn Rand And All Of The Night

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

^^ Just spit milk of paradise all over my keyboard.

pplains, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

in the year 2112 people aren't catty bitches at you just for being trans

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

yeah but see what happens when you try to play a guitar

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

well yeah we're all into synthesizers. i know that's not rush's thing, rush would never sell out and start using synthesizers.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

infamous anti-synthesizer band

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

The priests of the Temple of Syrinx were notorious anti-rockists, look at all their computers.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

In her early twenties, Oprah Winfrey was a news anchor at Nashville's WLAC-TV, where she would frequently cover the same stories as John Tesh, news anchor across town at WSM-TV.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 July 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

'Got My Mind Set on You' is a cover of a 1962 song by James Ray. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k68Fob0QA_k

Dan Worsley, Friday, 22 July 2022 12:15 (one year ago) link

OK, so that explains how George Harrison was able to come up with a good, catchy song in 1987.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2022 12:18 (one year ago) link

He had a different method for doing the somersaults in the video

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link

The whole story behind that cover is pretty crazy.

https://www.stereogum.com/2143088/the-number-ones-george-harrisons-got-my-mind-set-on-you/columns/the-number-ones/

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link

I only learned that Got My Mind Set On You was a cover sometime this year! The video was a big favorite of mine back in the Nick Rocks years, especially the squirrel playing the pipe like a saxophone. That was a big hit with all the third graders. Never made the Evil Dead connection either, but watching it now, it's very obvious.

peace, man, Friday, 22 July 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

Ronnie Wood covered another James Ray song on I've Got My Own Album To Do.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 July 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

dr. demento played the og "got my mind set on you" on his show when the cover became a hit for george, so i learned this fact back then. i wish i still had the tapes i recorded off the radio. fortunately the demento archives are so thorough, you could basically recreate any episode from that era, although some tunes don't appear to be online.

andrew m., Friday, 22 July 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

From the Stereogum piece:

While he was in Benton, Harrison sat in with a local band at a VFW Hall, took in a drive-in double feature, and bought the Rickenbacker that he’d play on Ed Sullivan five months later.

Except he played his usual Gretsch on Ed Sullivan, which doesn't resemble in any way the Rickenbacker 425 he bought in Benton:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S78yWZ1Eqnk/U2zjx_HaIeI/AAAAAAAAMM4/7so-8OinO5k/s1600/eskilstuna.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

Prior to visiting his sister in Benton, George and his brother stayed in NYC for a day or so and took in the Empire State Building:

https://external-preview.redd.it/4HYji8sGaUG7VVpzwA_QFHF1Bbkjp1EQrQgtFhzEoBY.jpg

No one in the US knew or cared who he was, and he was the only Beatle to have had that fame-free experience in America.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

“Handle With Care” only went to #45? I feel like it was everywhere! I even bought the album when it came out!

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

my brain shorthandedly knows gmmsoy as a travelling wilburys hit, i erased that harrison even had a late 80s album

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

Xpost it got to #2 on the Album Rock Tracks chart (now Mainstream Rock), so your memory's not wrong, it was getting plenty of airplay. Maybe VH1 was involved also.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

I have given way too much thought to the Weird Al parody. "This song is just six words long" is seven words.

"I got my mind set on you" is also seven words long.

Granted, "got my mind set on you" is six words. But they never appear without "I."

Hence Al released his version with "Song's" in the title, even though he very definitely sings "song is."

Also Al's lyric that goes "couldn't think of any lyrics, no I never wrote the lyrics," suggesting that either Al either didn't know it was a cover or pretended not to, because otherwise his parody wouldn't make sense.

Also Harrison wrote lots of lyrics. Which Al no doubt knew. So the whole thing is just off.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 July 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

No one in the US knew or cared who he was, and he was the only Beatle to have had that fame-free experience in America.

strange that he was wearing his work clothes at the time

Ronnie Wood covered another James Ray song on I've Got My Own Album To Do.

I've Got My Own Mind To Set On You

fetter, Friday, 22 July 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

strange that he was wearing his work clothes at the time

I bet this started some arguments a few months later when they were on Ed Sullivan. “Hey, I’ve seen him! We saw that guy a few months ago!” “SURE you did.” “No, really! He was at the Empire State Building, and I said, ‘Look at how long that guy’s hair is!’” “Yeah, right! And I saw Dean Martin at the supermarket the other day! Ha ha ha!”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

in the Weird Al parody, I don't think he's parodying George Harrison so much as portraying a hack musician who threw together a song in five minutes.

He definitely sings "song is", because I think I protested this very thing with my dad and he gave the cheat answer of "well I guess it's 'Song's'.

My big protest is that the other lyrics where he bitches about having wrote no lyrics are actually lyrics and therefore the song has way more than six words, just because they're meta doesn't mean they don't count.

Fuck you Al, your mother is an astronaut.

Also Al's lyric that goes "couldn't think of any lyrics, no I never wrote the lyrics," suggesting that either Al either didn't know it was a cover or pretended not to, because otherwise his parody wouldn't make sense.


Why does Weird Al have to be talking about Harrison here?

“Couldn’t think of any lyrics” is also self-contradictory, because of course those are lyrics too. I’ve always just kind of assumed the whole parody is intended to generate cognitive dissonance and fold in on itself.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 July 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

lol xpost basically these are all reasons why it’s great.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 July 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

it was my favorite song on the album as a kid. me and my friends in dad's truck on the way back from Bible School would sing it (and I knew the George Harrison version too cos my dad was a Beatles fellater)

Tracer gets it, the Weird Al song is pure genius

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

Also Harrison wrote lots of lyrics. Which Al no doubt knew. So the whole thing is just off.

― your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin)

i mean not just that, if you listen to Yankovic's earlier "Theme to Rocky XIII", Al is singing about Rocky owning a deli in his retirement. Now, obviously, Rocky III had only just been released at the time, and Yankovic couldn't have _known_ for sure what he would do in his retirement, but a _deli_? Really? The Italian Stallion? Obviously, if you think for a minute about the constraints of the Rocky cinematic universe, it has to be clear that Rocky could only possibly be the owner of an Italian restaurant. I mean, I could see this glaring mistake coming from a lesser pen, but we're talking about the songwriter who wrote _Yoda_, for heavens' sake, a masterwork that gets the famed _Empire Strikes Back_ character better than any other writer has done before or since. How could he flop so catastrophically when it comes to the much simpler character of Rocky Balboa? I am at a loss for an explanation for this.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

he also calls Rocky fat and weak and a disgrace!

It's Rocky 13 so it's presumably taking place at LEAST 10 years later which is plenty of time for the champ to get fat and lazy, cf. Raging Bull

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 July 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

but that's rude to call him that!

besides a choice between rye and kaiser IS NO CHOICE


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