Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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we grow up thinking of nations as these fixed linguistic and ethnic entities but yes even within living memory in many many places this is just not the case

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

Mick Jones and Grant Shapps are cousins.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 5 August 2022 05:15 (one year ago) link

The black shapp of the family.

She's got a dog in Ballymena (Tom D.), Friday, 5 August 2022 07:52 (one year ago) link

Today I learnt from this thread that Nimrod was ever used as a pejorative, in Looney Tunes or otherwise! Only knew it as the name of a Biblical hunter and an aircraft.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 5 August 2022 08:13 (one year ago) link

i think i saw the hunter reference in my youth (wanna say in moby dick?) and as i only was aware of the cartoon pejorative i was sorta baffled. "yeah, that ahab, what a maroon!"

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 August 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

I knew it as an insult from Looney Tunes and was confused when Nimrod later turned up to be the name of a villain in the x-men comics. I just assumed nimrod meant dummy, and couldn't figure out why this character had such a name.

Cow_Art, Friday, 5 August 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

My dad used to write a newspaper column on outdoors sport, and whenever he got verbose and referred his "nimrod brethren" it would prompt an angry letter or two from hunters who felt insulted.

Jaqueline Kasabian Oasis (bendy), Friday, 5 August 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

I was just thinking about how, growing up at the height of “Tears in Heaven” airplay, I thought Eric Clapton was an American soft rock/adult contemporary singer until my late 20s. It was only then I learned he was known as a guitar virtuoso, and over the last 5 years ago that I learned, in the following order 1) he was in Cream, 2) Cream is British 3) he is British.

ed.b, Friday, 5 August 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

lol i think i had a similar arc with eric clapton

Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 August 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

I mean, judging him just on the hits like "Rock n' Roll Heart", he is kinda in that Bob Seger mold.

pplains, Friday, 5 August 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

I learned as a teenager that Clapton was a bellend via music press mentions of his racist rant and support for Enoch Powell. Then when I was about 15 and watched The South Bank Show on Jimi Hendrix, which featured a lot of him talking then I learned as well as being a racist cunt he was also a detestable personality!

calzino, Friday, 5 August 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

It was also just yesterday, looking up his wikipedia, that I learned he’s a pretty shitty person (racism, spousal abuse, etc). Not surprised that’s left out of guitar god hagiography, though.

ed.b, Friday, 5 August 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

I didn't learn about Clapton being a racist until I got to ILX.

peace, man, Friday, 5 August 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

TIL that the opening narration of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is delivered by John Larroquette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGMSTzXOSNU

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 August 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link

That the Mark Frost who writes golf books--one of which, The Match, looks out at me when seated at my desk--is the same Mark Frost who produced Twin Peaks. Also, Lucas Giolito of the White Sox is his nephew.

(Had no idea about John Larroquette and TCM, either.)

clemenza, Friday, 19 August 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

Some stuff about our next Prime Minister. She has a daughter called Liberty (ugh). She had an affair with Mark Field MP when both were still married, that's Mark Field MP whose sole claim to fame is grabbing young women round the neck and throwing them out of Mansion House speeches.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 August 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

The size of the Terracotta Army's burial site or rather the emperor they were created to serve, & them having been brightly coloured on discovery but that faded within a couple of hours of them being exposed to the air.

Stevolende, Saturday, 20 August 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

xp

also I recall someone posting that it's an open Westminster secret that she frequently sleeps with her spads. I'm not certain if they meant all 5 of them at the same time!

calzino, Saturday, 20 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

there was an East Pakistan, separate from West Pakistan

koogs, Saturday, 20 August 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

yeah, read about that a few months ago and I was hearing there were a number of partition documentaries and podcasts appearing that woulld be likely to look into it. Seemed to be quite somke distance from the other section of Pakistan. Is it because of different areas of majority muslim population and them not wanting to move absolutely everybody included or possibly not being able to. Nasty feeling population may have been seen more as statistics than people.

THink one place I read about it was The Upstairs Wife: An Intimate History of Pakistan by Rafia Zakaria who I'd read a book on White Feminism by.

Stevolende, Saturday, 20 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

how shockingly old will you guys be when you learn about Bangladesh?

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 20 August 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

What are they teaching young folks at school these days.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 August 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

Now it may seem so far from where we all are
It's something we can't neglect

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 August 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

that it's elton john, not KISS, who sings "saturday night's alright for fighting"

budo jeru, Saturday, 20 August 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

That Pablo Cruise was a band and not a guy.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 20 August 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link

I just learnt that the Avalanches song title Pablo’s Cruise (released 22 years ago) is a pun or in-joke of some kind

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 21 August 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

the partition wasn't something you got taught in pre-o-level history back when there were still o-levels. maybe things are better now. but it does feel like the kind of thing gove would've stopped being taught.

koogs, Sunday, 21 August 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

Comedian Charlie Chuck was briefly a drummer with the Small Faces.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 21 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

"She has a daughter called Liberty"

just remembered that the one of the fascist Mitford daughters, the one that was very close to Adolf Hitler was called Unity. Not sure what conclusion I am drawing here other than posh people are very bad.

calzino, Sunday, 21 August 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

The history of the Brixton Academy. That it only opened under than name in October 83 after somebody had managed to open it for a year as the Fair Deal the year before but it apparently took a lot of work to make it viable in terms of refurbishment etc when it opened as the Academy.
I was trying to find out what year Sun Ra played there around that time, must be the next year then . I had thought it was much longer open since it seemed to be a fixture for gigs when I was growing up. But maybe I was just graduating to bigger gigs at the time. being 16 or 17.
I saw Screamin Jay Hawkins there with a few weeks of the Sun Ra gig, thought it must be around the summer. Wound up walking from there to Trafalgar Square after one of the gigs.
Same premises had been the Sundown in 1972 and was one of the venues that Hawkwind's Space Ritual was recorded at.
I think one reason I was thinking it was an older venue was to do with the stage decoration I remember being there which I think looked liek it must be left over from something. Certainly more tahn being intentionally put there as decoration for a concert venue, like it was left over from a theatre or ballroom or something. Have since seen something possibly similar used to make Irish pubs look like tehy were much older than the redesign.
It was apparently bought for £1 when it was the Fair Deal and on its way to becoming the Brixton Academy.

Stevolende, Saturday, 27 August 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link

but it was a theatre before? did you not finish reading the history or something? it was built in the 1920s and was a cinema and theatre called the Astoria from 1929-1972

this is what it looked like in 1929:

http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Brixton/AstoriaImages/Auditorium1.jpg

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Saturday, 27 August 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link

guess no hot linking on that image but it's here: http://www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/Brixton/AstoriaImages/Auditorium1.jpg

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Saturday, 27 August 2022 10:33 (one year ago) link

yeah and it had become run down in the interim.

Stevolende, Saturday, 27 August 2022 10:54 (one year ago) link

So when you heavily refurbish a place you tend to leave the previous contents in there? Is that what You're missing?
Contents from decades earlier non intentionally left there. Or brought in .
I am seeing a level of mise en scene that I would think was pretty far from automatic. Things left on side of stage and I thought a shelf like continuation around the sides. Certainly the way I'm remembering it.
So do you think you could stop projecting possibly?

Stevolende, Saturday, 27 August 2022 10:58 (one year ago) link

i always wanted performers i saw there to make more use of that bridge-gallery thing above the main stage -- tho it may well have been unsafe and/or closed off by management to rock idiots lol

actually tbrr i wanted to wander around on it myself

mark s, Saturday, 27 August 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link

That Sondre Lerche is a man.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

You forgot to add “baby!” at the end.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

He was good in those Clint Eastwood movies

Josefa, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

I think that's why I thought he was a woman.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

Just relearned the Pete Puma/Stan Freberg thing.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

I was today years old when I heard about the extreme ignobility of the death of Michael Collins. Who had come out of the space he was being protecte din behind an armoured car to shoot some IRA members fleeing down a lane from behnd. HIm being exposed meant that he was also a target. Some of his closest confidantes went on to form the blueshirts Irish fascist party. NOw if i could just go back 25 years and play the podcast I listened to today to me when I was living in Dublin., Wonder what I would have thunk.

Also just sunk in that the member of the Saints that looks most like a longhaired rocker on the cover of (I'm) Stranded left to form a mod band. Kym Bradshaw was a founding member of Small Hours who are on Mods Mayday 79 among other things. Saints punks in suits look kinda rocks anyway. Been getting into Prehistoric Days for the last few days

Stevolende, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

not only does florida look like a penis. it is a penisula. and the first letters of that? it's penis

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

wait, hold that.

peninsula. penin, not penis.

that makes more sense. i was genuinely shocked, for a moment, that i had not noted this before

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

just to wrap this up i'd like to suggest that maybe we start calling them penisulas

Karl Malone, Monday, 5 September 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

also home of the florida state seminal vesicles

mookieproof, Monday, 5 September 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

that Pakistan has more glacial ice than any other country outside the arctic zones. I know the Himalayan mountain range passes through it and it's a big country with a lot of mountains in the north. But I just thought somewhere else in that zone would have more ice.

calzino, Monday, 5 September 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

that the Wolverhampton Wanderers once also played an offseason season in an upstart North American 'soccer' league, but they were rebranded the LA Wolves. as were other European teams who played, masquerading as American teams under pseudonyms.

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

was the late 60s

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

That's kinda crazy. And looking into it, the 1969 NASL year was really nutty. First the teams played a regular season schedule with presumably their own North American players and that was followed by an "International Cup" with each team being replaced by a real English or Scottish team. Aston Villa played as the Atlanta Chiefs, West Ham United played as the Baltimore Bays, etc.

Josefa, Monday, 5 September 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link


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