Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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If this stuff were truly incriminating I'm wondering why it wasn't given a viking funeral like a long time ago?

henry s, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

That is a great question. On the other hand, I found myself wondering through all four years of the Kakistocracy why people were doing the things they were doing.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

xp most likely because they just now found out about it somehow? I am still guessing this had to be something from Alex Jones's phone

frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

I'm sticking with my theory that Asshole took something as a souvenir that wouldn't pass the national security smell test. Could be something as seemingly innocuous (to Asshole) as a thank you note for dropping a bomb on an enemy or something, that seems like something Asshole would a) actually have read and b) taken with him and c) boastfully shared with others.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

Would that constitute a "raid"

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

This is Trump's Rosebud, his Maltese Falcon ...

I don’t think Alex Jones’ phone will turn out to have anything to do with this. Mark Banston has given an interview to Young Turks and says anybody expecting revelations will be disappointed as Jones appears to be rather isolated and nobody returns his messages. The most salacious thing was he had been sending nudes of his wife to Roger Stone, and Banks suggested these may have been taken without her knowledge.

Also dick pics.

Interview is on YouTube

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

Like I said some other time, it beggars belief that one of the most intellectually incurious people of all time would actually have 15 or 20 boxes of currently or formerly classified shit he wanted to take down with him, because that would presume he read it, and there is no way he did. So my guess is (best case scenario for him) it was just stuff of surface curiosity he took with him, and perhaps unknowingly some of that stuff was super-duper classified. And then at some point someone else got a gander ("Hey, check out this cool night-image picture of this Iranian nuclear weapons site we took before we blew the shit out of that place!") and ratted him out. Though I wish and hope it's something worse.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

Mark Banston has given an interview to Young Turks and says anybody expecting revelations will be disappointed as Jones appears to be rather isolated and nobody returns his messages.

it's daily beast but

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-shitting-himself-scared-that-his-alex-jones-texts-may-leak

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

we all know whats in those boxes... its da pee tape baby

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

in all seriousness he prob took whatever it was for a reason, but also it couldve been for no reason

lag∞n, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

unfortunate mixup with the pop secret homestyle butter 30 pack, unfortunately left behind and likely expired by now

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

“It’s important that I, and the DOJ, address what’s on every American’s minds at this unique moment in our history: Beyoncé’s ‘Renaissance’.”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

Asshole may have taken stuff he thought he could sell for big bux.

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Duffy: Did they raid Hillary Clinton’s home?
Jessica: They didn’t need to because she cooperated like a normal human being! pic.twitter.com/ElO9BjmJ16

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 11, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Merrick Garland is gonna make a statement this afternoon. (It was supposed to happen at 2:30; still waiting.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dallas_stream6/2270399/

President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

Asshole may have taken stuff he thought he could sell for big bux.

You can almost never go wrong guessing that that is Trump's motivation.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

Warrant to be unsealed and that's about it

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

The warrant has to list specifically what they were looking for and why they knew it was there

President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

A very scrupulous “stay tuned folks”

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

Just as Asshole didn't reveal the subpoena he was served about this stuff months ago, he didn't have to open his (virtual) mouth about the search. The fact that he was compelled to preemptively say shit and allow/encourage his minions to spread lies and stir shit does not bode well for what may have been found, but I guess we'll see, assuming we get more than a page of blacked-out text.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

Hot-take observation made elsewhere, it will be curious to see if Trump *opposes* the motion to unseal any of the warrant.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

not sure how common it is in other states, but in missouri warrants are public records

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

Sean Duffy is an anthropomorphic thumb

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

End of the filing concludes: "This Court should unseal Docket Entry 17, subject to the presentation of
countervailing interests by former President Trump." So yeah, Trump can say no, or sue or whatever to prevent its release/revelation, which if he does is not a good look for a guy that complained so loudly. Garland basically calling his bluff.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

Fox News hosts now asking why Trump hasn’t released the warrant. Bret Baer and Martha MacCallum both agree that the next piece of info needed is the warrant, and expressed uncertainty about why Trump hasn’t released it.

— Robert J. DeNault (@robertjdenault) August 11, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

They need a new angle fast

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

For the same reason he didn't return the boxes, obviously. Some secrets and truths are too great for mortals, our species isn't ready for it.

'They took all my stuff! But it was, it was planted, it was mine, but that's what they, when they, had any of it all been declassified... mostly press clippings, but yeah they planted evidence! And they took my stuff, really bad.'

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

Only people who are suspected of being guilty need to produce evidence that they are innocent. Think about it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

Innocent people have nothing to prove. That's just logic.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

On yesterday's The Daily, Maggie Haberman said he was fascinated with some stuff, like letters from Kim Jong-un (remember that Trump was sending him some very effusive missives, proudly shared with The Failing New York Times etc.). Was showing them to other people, some other items as well, and some visitors did not have much in the way of security clearance (eyewitness reports, sounds like): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/10/podcasts/the-daily/fbi-donald-trump-classified-records-mar-a-lago.html Gives the whole long-ass timeline of this recovery effort, of course, all the consideration he got.

dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

but, also, if the most important classified document that the fbi raided his house to get is some stupid memento, this country is FUCKED

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

on the plus side, if it's an important document, this country is REDEEMED

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

the FATE of the NATION is ON THE LINE....

COMING UP

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

just an example of things that he does take an interest in and show to whomever, demonstrating his loose behavior
Rodan Rodan, you're a bad boy
Tokyo
Is not your toy

dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

I imagine it's very possible/likely that Asshole (who was in NY) was told of the search warrant action, lashed out without even knowing what the warrant was about, mobilized his hornets and sycophants, and only then was informed by his lawyers what was in the warrant. And is now in an untenable position. Release the information and reveal the crime he possibly committed, or refuse and look even more guilty.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

In other words, *classic* Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

if you read Charlie Kirk's twitter feed it's basically just "no u" rn

wait, why would anybody do that

I heard a great quote from someone on the news right now, basically: "The DOJ played this quietly, Donald Trump is the one that made it loud."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

he's like Toshiro Mifune when he gets woken up in Seven Samurai

Won't he just say that he would love to release the warrant but can't because he's, uh, being audited?

henry s, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

lol

Trump allies are discussing the possibility of challenging DOJ's motion to unseal the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. They've contacted outside lawyers about helping them.
confirmed by me & @maggieNYT https://t.co/7mngDhlAxz

— Katie Benner (@ktbenner) August 11, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

fwiw JiC your careful insistence on 'Asshole' is not really any better than going with 'Drumpf'

okay it's actually slightly better, but still

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

Happy to call him Trump. It's all really the same thing, isn't it?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

words are just the same letters in different orders

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link


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