Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

do we actually know they included launch codes? or is launch codes sort of a shorthand for "detailed operational plans" or something?

we dont know what was in there all nuclear stuff of which there is tons is default classified and cannot be declassified by the president is my understanding based on reading a few articles and many tweets over the last couple days

word is now that these may be the NOC lists, which is the thing Tom Cruise stole in Mission Impossible lol

Anyone consider that maybe Trump just wanted to make nuclear weapons?

For the moment, I'm just gonna pretend that we live in the world where this shit actually produces results instead of the world where he once again eludes any semblance of consequence before stealing the 2024 election and establishing the Trump dynasty of god emperors.

i think it could go either way

The predictability is so tiring..

"I didn't do it, it's a witch hunt"... "Well it was planted, you see"... "OBAMA DID IT TOO"

I wonder if he is going to try to retroactively declare Mar- a - Lago as a presidential library and claim anyone could have made an appointment to see the “nuclear”.

opening a library in Florida is also a felony though

Actual photo of the Obama Presidential Library
https://www.mlive.com/resizer/D5R-Xho4kC1djylNedt11omxbww=/1280x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/5ALCNB6YR5CBVL6Y6IT5AGKJPU.JPG

2017!

https://www.theonion.com/mar-a-lago-assistant-manager-wondering-if-anyone-coming-1819579801

The Very. First. Issue. Of Spy. 1986. pic.twitter.com/yGEMKwxjoZ

— David Kamp (@MrKamp) August 12, 2022

Actual Politico subhead:

Republicans who days ago were near-united in blasting the Justice Department are allowing that nuclear weapons-related materials at Mar-a-Lago might be problematic.

he loves nuclear its one of his things

Actual WaPo head:

Event venues (like Trump’s Mar-a-Lago) are not good places to store nuclear secrets

they should be stored at Hobby Lobby

everything is problematic these days, I'll bet DOD even put trigger warnings on these specs for advanced weapons systems

I wouldn't put it past Trump to steal nuclear documents and store them at his resort just to own the libs. "Boo hoo, snowflakes!"

why are you so determined to find a million reasons to let him off the hook for this?

This story is lol, but I'm going to guess everyone will have forgotten about it in three weeks (except perhaps as a right-wing talking point).

Probably because they will have discovered something even worse. Anyway, he's totally on the hook for this (whatever this turns out to be, exactly). But it is completely in character for Trump to commit a major crime for the stupidest reason possible, vs some sort of ambitious "I'm going to smuggle these nuclear secrets out of the White House and sell them to the Saudis for billions!" scheme. He's such a fuck-up. So it's kind of like the Trump version of Occam's Razor: what is the stupidest possible reason for him to commit a crime?

xxpost Because he was the President, and if he wants to be the President of the New Breakaway Republic of Flexas he has to bring Nuclear with him. What's a country without Nuclear? It's like when you leave one job for another, you don't leave all that experience behind.

“I can tell you that there are a number of things that fall under the umbrella of nuclear weapons, but that are not necessarily things that are truly classified. Many of them you can find on your own phone,” said Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio), ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee.

Other members invoked the 2017 congressional baseball shooting and, yet again, the Hillary Clinton email scandal.

Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah) asked: “Was it nuclear? Was it ― heck, maybe it was aliens. That’s the point. We don’t know. We are asking them to tell us.”

Heck, we don't know. It might have been Melania's famous goulash recipe.

Because Trump hasn't been convicted in court yet that means he is innocent and must be released

heck, maybe it was aliens

that's the point.

more importantly, he says he is innocent. guilty people don't say that.

guys I want to remind u of something

~innocent until PROVEN guilty~

ergo

if he has not been proven guilty in a court of law

that means he is innocent

and legally

that means he can no longer be investigated

Regular reminder to the Biden administration and the DOJ that much of the public will judge how severe Trump's misconduct is based on how severe the consequences he will face are, not the other way around!

— Michael Tae Sweeney (@mtsw) August 12, 2022

"the power of positive thinking" case for the prosecution

he's like the ultimate 1-dimensional chess player. his big scheme to squeeze Ukraine for dirt on the Bidens was just to call Zelensky up on the phone and say it outright while like 50 different people were listening. i would be shocked if there were any plan at play in his mind beyond some variation of "having this stuff makes me feel cool"

It's kind of a shame, the one person reckless and wild enough to release secret proof of aliens also turned out to be the one imbecile so intellectually incurious he probably didn't bother to look. He probably just did the top-secret archives equivalent of googling himself all day.

xpost The way I heard it put yesterday was that the DOJ is playing chess but he is eating checkers. Might have to credit Jennifer fuckin' Rubin for that one.

agents left this behind

https://khristore.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/s-l1600-17.jpg

Breaking on WSJ: FBI removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as Top Secret, as well as information about the President of France, binders of photos, a handwritten note and an executive grant of clemency for Roger Stone.

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022

BTW, it's one hour before deadline and nothing has been released/revealed yet. Probably because of the audit.

Mon dieu, Macron!

The man really loves the French Presidents.

Didn’t he call Sarkozy (or Macron) randomly at the middle of the night just to talk?

https://andrewsidea.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bar2.jpg

Boom.

The former President is under investigation for 793.

(And obstruction). pic.twitter.com/WXQCVObQK8

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 12, 2022

NEW via Breitbart: Trump under investigation per search warrant for:
18 USC 2071 — Concealment, removal or mutilation
18 USC 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defence information
18 USC 1519 — Destruction, alteration or falsification of records in Federal investigations

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022

if's the ufo stuff

Someone should ask emptywheel if he is under investigation for violations of BOFA.

793 is apparently the espionage act.

For those following along at home, 793 is a main Espionage Act offense, 2071 is purloining government records, and 1519 is destroying or mutilating them. https://t.co/vxmyFb4tpc pic.twitter.com/TB0xhySPOV

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) August 12, 2022

Breitbart: The document, obtained and reviewed by Breitbart News, shows that the DOJ and FBI waited several days after Reinhart approved the warrant to conduct the raid, something that severely undercuts the talking points issued by Attorney General Merrick Garland in a public statement on Thursday

Early in the article, it admits 'nearly three full days' and then goes on to repeatedly say 'several days'

The first time I saw the judge referenced I thought they were talking about Judge Reinhold.

more breitbart: " ...seems to indicate that the judge did not think this is so serious that immediate or urgent action was needed..."

This will become a talking point: the judge didn't think it was very serious

let them talk.

he's not going to jail for ten years, more than likely, but this is definitely not a 'i can't wait to see Trump wriggle out of that one' scenario. if charges don't get filed, it'll be because they didn't find what they expect or the investigation didn't turn up what they thought, not because anybody leaned on them. Trump and conservative media is outright trying to get FBI agents murdered, I sincerely doubt any of them are going to show restraint.

he fucked up in a way he can't easily snap his fingers out of this time.

Breitbart breaking the story is literally the ep of South Park with Cartman showing the entire class the pic of him sticking his dick in Butters's mouth so he could get ahead of the story