Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Statement from Trump Office: As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time… He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified.. pic.twitter.com/pnTjRnOqif

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 13, 2022

Lol keep talking moron

frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

This is the “I said ‘Not it infinity’” defense

President Keyes, Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

Nuclear secrets become unsecret when they enter my tacky compound

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

Got to admit, I did not foresee psychic declassification on the game card.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

It's like a child making up new rules to the game as they go along to ensure they keep winning. "Oh, wait, if I'm behind, when I make a basket it's worth twice as many points until I catch up to your score plus one, and then it goes back to normal scoring."
https://www.mcgilltribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Sports-1-Brian-Koberlein-Calvinball.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link

“From the Trump office in Wahoo, Nebraska”

Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

I swear there was some chud on FOX a few years ago saying something like "the President cannot commit any crimes, if he does it then it is by definition not a crime"

frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

in today's news, rock beat scissors, but then it was time for the bulldozer. bart simpson was also deployed but was handily beaten by the bulldozer. weather on the tens, coming up

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link

Xpost oh shit someone brought Nixon back to life?

yeah, I saw that the other day. she's been filling in while tucker tans his balls. i'm trying to imagine the political and psychological journey of some rando 2016 left-leaning voter who decides that tulsi gabbard is the best person to support, and then if they kept supporting her all the way to the present moment.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

The party changed not her

President Keyes, Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

Xpost You are basically describing the Jimmy Dore fanbase

President Keyes, Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Tulsi is just another Palin-style raw opportunist, but with a prettier face to exploit.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

I mean, the minute I read in 2016 that she was a Christian, anti-marriage equality individual from Hawai’i , it was pretty evident that she was actually a conservative— all of those types are

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

I spent a good 4 years between 2016 and 2020 sharing this the moment any friend or acquaintance got a "she look intersting" vibe about Tulsi. Great reporting by Eoin Higgins: https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/tulsi-gabbard/tulsi-gabbard-is-not-who-you-think-she-is/

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

that link 404'ed me

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

That link isn’t what you think it is either

frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

Tulsi Gabbard is hosting “Tucker Carlson,” the predictable end point of a political pivot I called six years agohttps://t.co/QINzvNOigH

— ℮oin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) August 11, 2022

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I mean, the minute I read in 2016 that she was a Christian, anti-marriage equality individual from Hawai’i , it was pretty evident that she was actually a conservative— all of those types are

― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, August 13, 2022 2:05 PM bookmarkflaglink

that's what doesn't make sense to me about the handful of friends I know who are progressive who weirdly endorsed her in 2016. they mostly abandoned her later but it's like she always seemed fucking phony

At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.

The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.

The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the search warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.

It also helps to further explain the sequence of events that prompted the Justice Department’s decision to conduct the search after months in which it had tried to resolve the matter through discussions with Mr. Trump and his team.

...Mr. Trump said on Friday that he had declassified all the material in his possession while he was still in office. He did not provide any documentation that he had done so.

...n the spring, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking further documents believed to be in his possession. He was repeatedly urged by advisers to return what remained, despite what they described as his desire to continue to hold onto some documents.

In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a handful of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said.

...According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over.
...The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, including views from outside the storage room. According to a person briefed on the matter, the footage prompted concern among investigators about the handling of the material. It is not clear what time period that footage was from.

Over recent months, investigators were in contact with roughly a half-dozen of Mr. Trump’s current aides who had knowledge of how the documents were handled, two people briefed on the approaches said. At least one witness provided the investigators with information that led them to want to further press Mr. Trump formaterial, according to a person familiar with the inquiry.

Concern about Mr. Trump’s cavalier handling of classified information dates back to the early days of his administration. When Mr. Trump left office, President Biden quickly took the extraordinary step of barring him from receiving the intelligence briefings traditionally provided to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/us/politics/trump-classified-material-fbi.html?

dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

Trevor Noah Thinks Donald Trump May Be His Own FBI Leak: ‘He’s the King of Snitching on Himself’ (Video)
”For all we know, he was bragging about it at the Mar-a-Lago buffet,“ the ”Daily Show“ host said

https://www.thewrap.com/trevor-noah-donald-trump-fbi-leak-daily-show-clip/

dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

he's the king of blissful snitching

Good one.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

2 years later

"So Trump sold Intel secrets to China and Russia. So what? The Clintons did it!"

everybody does it

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

it's more suspicious if you don't do it, that's who they should be looking into. if you _say_ you don't do it, that is

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Press conference tomorrow to say he found Nicole Brown Simpsons real killer

In pursuing the unprecedented search of Donald Trump's residence on Monday, the FBI was seeking to retrieve Top Secret and "compartmented" documents dealing with intelligence "sources and methods," two federal government sources tell Newsweek—documents with the potential to reveal U.S. intelligence sources, including human sources on the American government payroll.

This greatly complicates any public discussion of the documents or any substantiation of Trump's potential violation of U.S. law. The sources, who were briefed on the investigation, requested anonymity in order to discuss sensitive information.
Compartmented" is a specific term meaning "classified information concerning or derived from intelligence sources, methods, or analytical processes, which is required to be handled within formal access control systems established by the Director of National Intelligence." It includes a variety of different access categories—for example, human, intercept, satellite sources—each of which limits how many people can know the nature of the compartment. One of the government sources says that "special access program" information was involved in the Mar-a-Lago case, a further category of information limited to an even smaller group of people.
In order to prove that this was a matter of national security and essential to be done in this way, some detail on what Trump was keeping will have to be revealed," one intelligence officer, granted anonymity to speak about an ongoing investigation, tells Newsweek. "That might be difficult for the government precisely because of the sensitivity of the documents."
...The former president does not have authority to declassify such documents, intelligence sources say, because they are classified under statute rather than by executive order. Trump's possession of those documents and the fact that he was secreting them away came to light in the course of a multi-month federal government investigation that focused on the status of presidential records taken from the White House.


From that xpost Newsweek link.
Gonna get some jeers for "so important we can't tell you how important without telling you what it is, which we can't tell you." Even though that's plausible in this category of classification, without being provable---unless, for instance, some names of resources leak and somebody gets whacked.

dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

again:

...The former president does not have authority to declassify such documents, intelligence sources say, because they are classified under statute rather than by executive order.

dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

So as long as they're in that category, they don't have to be (totally?) unredacted for a judge to rule: the statute has been violated or whatever you call it, so he's guilty, prob fined, and hopefully disqualified from running for President again.

dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

I mean, the minute I read in 2016 that she was a Christian, anti-marriage equality individual from Hawai’i , it was pretty evident that she was actually a conservative— all of those types are

― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, August 13, 2022 2:05 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

shes part of some weird hindu cult, theres a good article about it that goes deep into the whole situation

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

i'm in that cult, that's where i met her. she used to be cool

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

damn ok right on

lag∞n, Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

this is the article I think: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe
by Kelefa Sanneh

symsymsym, Sunday, 14 August 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link

Big Liars have a name for fans of the former president who don't want to overturn democracy: “TINOs” — Trump in Name Only. https://t.co/h9jMJJu1LT

— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) August 14, 2022

Karl what is the deal with Science of Identity -- I was ISKCON for years, I note that SoI's guru claims direct disciplic succession from Srila Prabhupada & his bio notes this too, but no talk of when a split from ISKCON happened or what sastra's being invoked to justify a new lineage outside of Prabhupada's own org. Not that there aren't good reasons to split from ISKCON, mind!

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 15 August 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link

i'm in that cult, that's where i met her. she used to be cool

this was not true! i thought it was funny to just immediately claim membership in whatever group Tulsi Gabbard is, but I can see how that is neither funny nor interesting. so, no insight on the ISKCON/Science of Identity stuff! (the joy of ilx is i expect someone else probably does though)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

also that is a really cursed tino pic mookie lol

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

(i thought the joke was silly and funny tbh please don't hate me).

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 August 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

So many questions:

is the former president a flight risk? pic.twitter.com/yr8tgKpBjl

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 15, 2022

Why does he have two passports? Which country issued the second one? Why was he keeping his multiple passports in the same boxes as the classified shit he had his lawyers falsely swear he didn't have?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

US military folks have two passports, one for military use and one for personal use. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of politicians have similar.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

wait, when did they let this fucker back on Twitter?

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

they didn't, Truth Social is a Twitter rip off. Note red check instead of blue.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

They "stole" his passports :rollseyes:

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

thank u (xp)

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link


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