The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

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It's not one of Dick's best books. Don't even know why it was chosen for adaptation when much more interesting books like Flow My Tears The Policeman Said weren't.

I remember seeing the poster for the movie when it was new but I was 11 so wasn't going to R-rated movies. Bought the Marvel comic adaptation (which used the voiceover as captions), and eventually saw the movie years later on VHS, I think when the "director's cut" was released. I own the 4DVD box that came out some years ago that has the "final cut" on one disc, the long-ass documentary on another, the other cuts (theatrical, international from '82, early '90s director's cut) on another, and a whole disc of extras.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 13 August 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

i like it! and i’d recommend it to sci fi or pkd fans, but yeah, there are definitely several others by him that are much better. definitely the weakest in that set

the late great, Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

Seemed like there were some details in the book that may have helped me get into the movie's backstory, the deteriorata.

dow, Sunday, 14 August 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Hmmm

Amazon has ordered a ‘Blade Runner’ sequel series. The live-action project, titled “Blade Runner 2099” will take place fifty years after the events of ‘Blade Runner 2049’. Silka Luisa serves as showrunner with Ridley Scott as executive producer https://t.co/iVscokBeQ3

— Lost In Film (@LostInFilm) September 15, 2022

groovypanda, Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

How many Nexus 8 replicants are still banging around

Also will Ford be in this with prostheses making him look 115 years old

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

They will use computers to make CG Sean Young look like Harrison Ford.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

Honestly, I'm just impressed they're not making a prequel.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

Blade Runner 1989: Rise of Tyrell

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

I would be 100% on board for Blade Runner 1989

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

I would be 100% on board for Blade Runner 1989

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

the anime Blade Runner: Black Lotus had a couple moments but it was insanely slow and overly-telegraphed. kind of ended up being a prequel to 2049

mh, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

Blade Runner 1889 with a tie-in to the Back to the Future cinematic universe.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 September 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

Blade Runner 109 set in the Off-Rome Colonies

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

Blade Runner Nine-Nine set in New York's finest replicant hunting division. Hilarity ensues.

groovypanda, Friday, 16 September 2022 07:36 (one year ago) link

Blade Runner COPS 911: a reality tv series where you ride along with the police as they patrol the streets of Los Angeles, looking for replicants to retire.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 September 2022 10:41 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

i watched this with my boys

they loved the first half, hated the second half

it is a little weird, making your protagonist a bad guy and having him played by harrison ford, having the cops be bad guys, also having the replicants be bad guys

my adhd 14yo said the crowd scenes made him feel anxious and horrible. i was like yeah that’s what they were going for. he’s incredulous. “why would they want to make people feel that way??”

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 January 2023 22:32 (one year ago) link

who is the what now

mh, Sunday, 15 January 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link

is it a controversial thing to say that deckard is the bad guy? maybe i'm ahead of myself but this hot take must have been typed out somewhere before. let's consider the evidence:

- he's a cop
- as the opening crawl reminds us, he executes replicants. it's not called that. but that's what he does. he's an executioner. he's a deadly tool of the state. he drinks to forget it. but that's all he is. why does he execute them? not because they slaughtered 23 people. (and did they? really?) he would execute them even if they killed no one. them's the rules.
- when he meets zhora backstage she's charming, suspicious, tough, glamorous - she's a complex personality. deckard puts on a weird voice and pretends to be a bureaucrat. she's seen it all before and she's not scared (she can take care of herself) but it's a vivid reminder of how deckard has just shrunk down to one dimension: a man with a gun. whereas zhora has a whole personality, a life
- he's apparently fine with just shooting his weapon on a massively overcrowded street??
- when he finally shoots zhora it's heartbreaking
- when leon gets ahold of him it feels like justice
- when rachel hesitates to kiss him, deckard blocks her exit from the apartment, throws her against the wall, and demands that she say she wants him. it's physical assault and it's mentally abusive
- batty mockingly calls out in the nightmarish hide and seek at the end.. "i thought you were good! aren't you the good man?"

what you've got is an executioner who is happy enough to kill every replicant he meets apart from the one he has convinced to be his sexbot

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 January 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link

All sounds about right. Isn't that the point, really.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

i guess it was?! i mean.. i do feel kind of dumb for getting the point about 40 years late.

and.. i should have known morbs had posted about this

Deckard...can be power or he can be vulnerable to power. He chooses power. And power means murder.

The first such murder we witness is that of a woman who escaped slavery and came to Earth. She has found herself a job. It’s a degrading job, a job that even the hard-boiled, world-weary Deckard flinches away from watching. But it’s a job. She is participating in society. She is working. She’s doing the things that she has to do in order to be a part of the world that she risked everything to reach.

Deckard comes to her workplace. He finds her there, and he knows what she is, and she runs away from him because she knows what cops do to women like her. He chases her through the street and corners her. He aims his gun at her through a crowd of people. He squints. He takes a second too long to decide whether to shoot. She runs again.

(Nobody tells you about that part, when you tell them you’re about to watch Blade Runner for the first time. They tell you about all the different versions, and they tell you about the ambiguity of the ending, and they tell you about the fact that all the effects are practical effects. But nobody tells you about the part where a cop aims a loaded firearm into a crowd of people and tries to decide whether it’s worth risking their lives in order to murder an escaped slave.)

https://www.tor.com/2017/10/03/this-future-looks-familiar-watching-blade-runner-in-2017/

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:39 (five years ago)

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:02 (one year ago) link

(that's written by the brilliant sarah gailey btw)

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link

oh I was thinking you’d just watched 2049

carry on

mh, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:31 (one year ago) link


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