2022 MLB General Season Chatter: Ghost Runners On The Half-Billion Dollar Infield

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Rodriguez isn't even the best rookie in the American League, where's Adley's megadeal

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

coming, probably! and man, betting on a catcher to stay healthy for a long time also sounds like a bad idea, lol. i guess it's easier now in the post-buster posey injury era, though.

NO FUTURE!

jeez, this is a lot of money riding purely on MVP votes!

At minimum, Seattle will be deciding on whether to extend the contract by eight years and another $200MM. That figure could escalate as follows, depending on Rodriguez’s finishes in MVP balloting over the next seven years:

$240MM over eight years with two or three top ten finishes
$260MM over eight years with four top ten finishes
$280MM over eight years if he wins an MVP and finishes in the top five once more or finishes in the top five of MVP balloting on three occasions
$350MM over ten years if he wins two MVP awards or finishes among the top five in balloting on four occasions
In the event Rodriguez hits that highest threshold and the Mariners exercise the option, the contract would max out at 18 years and $470MM in total value.

rodriguez should go full cheater and pay each of the 30 writers who vote for AL MVP. just give them each a million or whatever, it'll be worth it for everyone

Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

These super early megadeals feel a bit like reading the first half-chapter of a book and finding it so amazing that you don’t need to read the rest to know it will be one of the best books. Definitely possible, but does not seem advisable. No one could have predicted a Bellinger megadeal after his 2019 MVP season would have turned out horribly from the Dodgers perspective.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 27 August 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Btw the dodgers have gone 41-9 in their 50 games, and I believe 115-47 over their last 162 regular season games.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 27 August 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

coming, probably! and man, betting on a catcher to stay healthy for a long time also sounds like a bad idea, lol.

good point, save the money for gunnar

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 27 August 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Hader has been a disaster for the Padres

frogbs, Sunday, 28 August 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link

very surreal top of the tenth as the espn broadcast has given way to a full playback of a new adam wainwright original song

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

top of the sixth. i'm sorry, i don't know what just happened there

it wasn't horrible. i feel strange

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

imo the cardinals should prioritize pujols getting to 700 over the playoffs and bat him in the 1 hole every day no matter what. i'm assuming cardinals fans agree with me.

, Monday, 29 August 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

Many of them probably would!

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

Did not realize the Dodgers have a starting lineup with three people in it hitting under .200 (Gallo, Muncy, Barnes). And Bellinger is at .207.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link

props to former top yankees prospect manny banuelos earning his first W since 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 03:35 (one year ago) link

so two of the front runners for the AL cy young both got injured within a day of each other (COINCIDENCE?!). unclear when either will return, but I wonder if this will make it Cease's to lose?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

it doesn't sound like verlander will be out long so i think he's still in the running

na (NA), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

hader in this jersey looks like when i create a team / player in mlb the show

https://i.imgur.com/EpzVIrM.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

lmao now this is an entrance

This is incredible.

(🎥 @SNYtv)

pic.twitter.com/jp1YjAb5JT

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) September 1, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

they should change the song based on his performance, throughout this season but also into his older years as he gets worse. go more minor key, more adagio

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

ngl i thought that was scherz playing trumpet and nodded agreeably to myself

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

'timmy trumpet' is a good new york name

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

spencer strider with the god-mode pitching performance of 2022. 8 IP 16 K

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 2 September 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

16 K and no walks. Early in his career, Clemens had a 15 K/0 BB game, and James wrote a long piece in one of the abstracts about how no one flukes into a game like that; you can have a fluky 15 K/2 BB game, or a 13 K/1 BB game, but the only pitchers who'd ever had 15 K/O BB games were legitimately great.

clemenza, Friday, 2 September 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

94 game score, nice. I had the game on where I tend bar but was too busy tonight to catch any of Strider's K's. Every time I looked up the Braves were up. I love watching him pitch, his delivery is very Kimbrel-esque.

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

This was the Clemens game ('84, his rookie season):

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS198408210.shtml

clemenza, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

i only caught the last inning he pitched but his composure through that, hitting the spots when it counted, was impressive

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:13 (one year ago) link

He’s pitched for nearly a year so where’s his 10 year $230 million extension

Michael F Gill, Friday, 2 September 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

I might be wrong but i imagine those massive extensions will mainly be for position players. Too much injury risk with any pitcher

Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

The Rays now officially residing in the Yankees' collective head.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 September 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

down to a three-game lead in the loss column

i actually kind of like aaron boone and i don't think he's a bad manager, but i have to love all the stories that are like 'boone furious as yankees hit bottom' despite, you know, still being in first place

mookieproof, Sunday, 4 September 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

Boone is a p lousy in game bullpen manager ime. I also think he (via front office, surely) tinker too much w lineups and matchups

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 4 September 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link

idk i don't think it's boone's fault that judge is carrying the entire offense, or that they traded away a legitimate MLB starting pitcher for a guy who's been in a walking cast for 12 weeks

mookieproof, Sunday, 4 September 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link

christ the twins are utterly useless

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 September 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

pitch clock is coming and infield shifts are going

A pitch clock, a ban on shifts, and larger bases are about to become permanently part of Major League Baseball when a joint committee votes Friday to approve the rules for use starting next season, according to a person familiar with the committee’s schedule.

MLB is pushing for the changes, which league officials hope will rejuvenate what many believe has become a stodgy sport in the age of data. They hope the pitch clock will bring game times down from record highs. They hope banning the shift will allow more hits and therefore more action. They hope larger bases will induce more stealing, and therefore more havoc on the bases. They hope, in other words, that these changes will yank baseball out of its modern-day slog.

And though the competition committee, which was created as part of the new collective bargaining agreement between the owners and players’ union, is meant to ensure player input on any major rule changes, it was not built to give them veto power: Six of the 11 members of the committee are MLB representatives. Four are players. One is an umpire. What MLB wants, one would think, MLB will get.

Minor league baseball players take a step toward unionization

So the sport long treasured as the one without a clock is about to get one. And after seeing the results of a test run in the minor leagues, as well as the noticeable effect it has had on young pitchers just arriving in MLB, everyone from once-skeptical players to old-school executives are growing comfortable with the idea — or so the conversation in clubhouses around the league for the last month would suggest.

The first two changes are somewhat self-explanatory. As tested in the minors this season, the shift rule would require four infielders to have their feet on the dirt, with two fielders on each side of second base, as the pitch is delivered. As tested in the minors — though hardly visible from the stands — bases will grow from 15 inches square to 18 inches square.

As for the pitch clock, the specifics of the rule on which the committee will vote Friday were not immediately available. But in Class AAA this season, pitchers were allotted 19 seconds to deliver a pitch with a runner on base, 15 seconds without. If they failed to deliver the ball in that time, the umpire called a ball. Pitchers could step off the rubber (or, as the a new baseball jargon will say it, “disengage from the rubber”) no more than twice per at-bat. If they stepped off a third time, they were called for a balk — unless they recorded an out by doing so. In other words, a third pickoff attempt is permitted as long as it works.

MLB is overdue for a female umpire. One may be on the way.

In Class AAA, hitters could call timeout just once per at-bat. If they were not in the box with nine seconds to go, the umpire penalizes him with a strike. By the end of the minor league season, teams were rarely combining for more than one violation per game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/09/08/mlb-rules-pitch-clock-infield-shift/

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 September 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link

They hope larger bases will induce more stealing, and therefore more havoc on the bases.


I’m picturing 4 mattresses

brimstead, Friday, 9 September 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

Saw a minor league game with a pitch clock and it seemed just fine, really unobtrusive

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 September 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

Is there a pitcher lobby? Seems like all these new rules favor the batter way more.

Banning the shift feels a little odd because it’s basically the hitters admitting they can’t make the adjustment.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

Over the last three months, the Braves are 62-24, which is a .721 winning percentage. I keep thinking they are going to falter a little bit but they don’t.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 9 September 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

banning the shift is boneheaded because the shift is a reaction to dead pull hitters who strike out all the time - this is just going to encourage that behavior!! why are these people so dumb???? just push the rubber back a foot. make the games 7 innings long. honestly ALL the problems would be solved.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 September 2022 06:55 (one year ago) link

People have been saying the exact same things about the shift for 15 years and absolutely nothing has changed. Lefty power hitters still get drafted, lefty power hitters still pull instead of mastering the opposite field bunt or whatever because they still offer more value pulling the ball every time. So yeah, let's ban the shift because watching them hit into the shift is boring as shit and only reinforces that they need to be swinging for the fences every AB.

The smartest team in baseball traded for Joey Gallo this year, clearly baseball has decided that slaying this dragon isn't worth it.

, Friday, 9 September 2022 08:35 (one year ago) link

if it wasn't so difficult to hit for average this wouldn't be an issue.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 September 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link

I'm excited that they're finally bringing in the pitch clock. Game times were reduced by 20-25 minutes in the minors I think?

I don't mind them banning the shift. It will also help in speeding up the games and raise batting averages (making the game less one dimensional). Other sports have illegal defenses and formations too, it's not an unprecedented change in sports.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 9 September 2022 09:37 (one year ago) link

Also a big fan of the pitch clock.

Banning the shift will apparently be good for about 500 singles a year, spread out over 185,000 PAs. Mainly from lefties who don't run so great. Sorry i just think it's dumb. You're going to force somebody to stand near third base, when Travis Shaw never hits it there? So that Travis Shaw can get more hits? Maybe if Travis Shaw can't hit the curve we should tell pitchers they have to throw him fastballs??

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 September 2022 09:54 (one year ago) link

It shouldn't be as simple as "nine players on the field". If you play third base, then that's where you stand on the field, it's not "forcing" anyone to do anything.

It also comes down to aesthetics. There was nothing inherently unfair about changing pitchers for each batter either. It made for good strategy but also dragged out games and made them less fun to watch, especially for casual viewers.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 9 September 2022 10:46 (one year ago) link

shd make players get rid of their crib sheets they carry around before they ban the shift

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 9 September 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

yes! i would be in favor of that 100%. learn signs like you did in the old days you fuckin mooks.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 September 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

I hate those crib sheets. Also not big on all the players in the dugouts watching their previous AB on a device, rather than watching the game in front of them.

clemenza, Friday, 9 September 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

but won't all these singles that normally would go into the shift slow the game down?! check mate mlb!

so – if the rules say infielders need to be on the dirt (is dirt location/shape standard?) does that exclude the infield grass? i could imagine watching that many hitters bunt would get incredibly tedious.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 9 September 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

on the infield grass is legal. and i guess they have to require infielders to be on the dirt lest the third baseman run out to left, the other outfielders shift around, and the right fielder becomes an 'infielder'

mookieproof, Friday, 9 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

i can't wait until a team (probably the rays) finds a way around the shift rules that is even more annoying for the old-school cranks of baseball

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 9 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

I mean you can still line the SS/2B adjacent to 2B and get a huge advantage* vs the up the middle single

*maths needed

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 9 September 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

Yes I can imagine the “two people on each side of second base” rule will make the shift a thing where the SS is one step to the left of 2B and the 3B is a little closer to the SS hole.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 9 September 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link


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