Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

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straub of straub-huillet is still with us tho he hasn't made a film for a few years now

also luc moullet and philippe garrel, but with the best will in the world…

mark s, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 10:58 (one year ago) link

Lots of Letterboxd kids recommend Vivre Sa Vie; what do ILX make of that one?

piscesx, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link

One of my absolute favs of his early films.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:05 (one year ago) link

The Letterboxd kids are alright

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link

Hopefully, he was the last bourgeois maoist in Paris.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

Quite an interesting piece of hatred for JLG from the situationist international, 1966.

An apt eulogy for one whose "critiques" "never go beyond the innocuous humor typical of nightclub comics or Mad magazine":https://t.co/paLZAzkvFn pic.twitter.com/ZYXCFDxmeA

— Cured Quail (@CuredQuail) September 13, 2022

The couple of write-ups I've seen ignore his work from '68 and jump to the last few years.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:18 (one year ago) link

What do they know?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

Those cinematic tone poems he released in the last 20 years frustrate and move me. RIP.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:39 (one year ago) link

Not much, but it was amusing xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

the period from la chinoise (1967) to numero deux (1975) is probably actually my favourite: he's swapped out "the girl, the gun" (american cinema's primary language) and swapped in "a third-world marxist student's notion of revolutionary ideology, the gun" and is falling dizzily in and out of amused lust with the latter as the relationships go awry (exactly as they did with "the girl" in every one pre-chinoise) -- all the while basically inventing ultraleft-shitposting-on-twitter as cinema's coming language (which no one takes him up on) (until twitter) 👈🏽👈🏽👈🏽
― mark s, Sunday, 26 January 2020 17:37 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

also "basically inventing" = "largely stealing off of debord" as debord never ever stopped huffily pointing out lol

― mark s, Sunday, 26 January 2020 17:40 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was a troll not a maoist (dziga vertov: also not a maoist #ffs)

also wikipedia my new nouvelle vague hero luc moullet: "In 1971, Moullet made his first color film, Une aventure de Billy le Kid, also known by its English title, A Girl Is a Gun. A psychedelic Western starring French New Wave icon Jean-Pierre Léaud, the film was never released in France, but was instead shown abroad in an English-dubbed version. The dubbing, conceived by Moullet as a tribute to the "shabbiness" he always admired in American genre films, is intentionally bad, and the short, slight Leaud is given a mismatched deep voice."

mark s, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

Bad week for nonagenarian Swiss filmmakers.

Cinematheque Ontario, before they moved into their fancy new building and got a little more commercial, actually had a Luc Moullet retrospective. His Billy the Kid movie is basically a student film with three actors running around the French countryside, nothing too special.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

Mahmoud Darwish in Godard's Notre Musique (2004) — on the Trojan poet pic.twitter.com/yvC8mOM53s

— Bassem (@bassem__saad) September 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link

a student film with three actors running around the French countryside, nothing too special

no its good (i shall never watch it)

mark s, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

It's not "psychedelic" either.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

looking at the various obit pix and u gotta respect the g man's commitment to never combing his hair

mark s, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

Godard never made a film that isn't worth seeing, and never made a film that isn't better on a subsequent viewing (although I probably won't rewatch Un Film Comme Les Autres).

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

I thought I recognized the name, Luc Moullet's brother is Patrice Moullet, who was the main man in the band Alpes, the band that made so many albums with Catherine Ribeiro, Catherine Ribeiro who was one of the main actors in Jean-Luc Godard's 1963 film "Les Carabiniers"... as was Patrice Moullet!

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

... and who composed the soundtrack to "Une aventure de Billy le Kid".

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

listening to catherine ribiero and 2Bis now, its no camembert electrique

mark s, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

I was confusing Luc Moullet with Michel 'Charlton Heston is an axiom of the cinema' Mourlet lol

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

To further detail:
Luc Moullet is the joker of the nouvelle vague.
I enjoy his films when i can get to see them. Often plays a comic character in later films, somewhat in the spirit of older woody allen or Albert Brooks.
Patrice Moullet still builds new instruments in a workshop in Paris

http://www.patricemoullet-alpes.com/

bryan, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

Oh ... damn.

The only time I've ever told off someone in a movie audience was at a Jean-Luc Godard movie.

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

how did Morbs respond?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

La gueule!

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

xp lets say I sequentially met him and Brooklyn pavement

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

And you reenacted a certain scene from The Squid and the Whale?

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

My first Godard was Hail Mary; which I'm pretty sure has to have been a bad intro.

When I finally saw Breathless, all I could think was "Grand Theft Auto: Ville de Lumiere."

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

I don't know that there's really a bad intro - he's always Godard?

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

Maybe the films from 1968 to 1979 are particularly for specialized tastes.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

Yeah, Godard is always Godard, but each era has it's own flavor which is what really dictates your viewing mileage: There's the 'cool kids smoking era'; the 'politics all the time era'; the 'Navejo period" etc...

singlehandedly exploded my ideas of film and narrative (and i've barely seen any of his movies)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

Jean-Luc Godard on Jerry Lewis, from a 1980 appearance on the Dick Cavett Show. https://t.co/Zy4OJTtGfR pic.twitter.com/W9EfFINTg6

— Shuja Haider (@shujaxhaider) August 20, 2017

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

A helping hand as well to Eustache, Garrel and (I think) Pialat when they were starting out. Edited the trailer for “Au hasard Balthazar”. Was an excellent film critic when writing for Cahiers. Just a badass. Luc Moullet is fine but no contest.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

that was great xpost thanks!!

youn, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

Edited the trailer for “Au hasard Balthazar”

Starring his wife-to-be, of course!

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

Oh shit..

According to this report, it was assisted suicide. The source says he wasn’t sick, he was just exhausted and went to Switzerland for the procedure. Hope it was peaceful for him. https://t.co/2hfp0ap6ix

— ege (@egeofanatolia) September 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

That is the most French death ever. "I am not sick, I am just very, very tired."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

I learned it from his Wiki page a little while ago. Thought it a mistake.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

It's an ongoing story but from the tweets he was in poverty and from that decided to end it. Hopefully we'll have a clearer picture in the coming days.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

He gave Eustache some leftover film ends from something - Masculin Féminin, maybe- for Santa Claus Has Blue Eyes, no? Believe JPL used to ferry them personally iirc

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

Didn’t JPL say he preferred working with JLG to FT? Don’t know where I read that though

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

He did like that one April Fools’ Xanadu bit though.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

Just taking stock of how much this man's work has practically changed my DNA over the years...just "Histoires du cinéma" alone. Or the challenging beauty of "Vivre sa vie", "Le Mépris/Contempt", "Pierrot Le Fou", "The Image Book", "Notre Musique", "JLG/JLG" and "Germany 1990" ...on and on...

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

That's heartbreaking if he was indeed living in poverty. What a world.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

Really. I was feeling awful waking up to this news, before these details emerged.

When Akerman committed suicide that came from the grief of her mother's death and years of mental health issues.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

He (and Anne-Marie Miéville, presumably) owned a house containing a state-of-the-art video studio, I have trouble believing he was down to his last pennies.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Ugh. Just now reading that stuff.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

It's an ongoing story but from the tweets he was in poverty and from that decided to end it. Hopefully we'll have a clearer picture in the coming days.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:44 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was already strangely gutted by the news before I heard this aspect.

This is all very bizarre to me, because I don't think I ever took JLG seriously--his earliest work probably was groundbreaking to the generation that saw it when it was new. But by the time I started seeing these films there was such a cult around the filmmaker that I assumed their sacred cow had to be standing on a lot of BS.

I was going to go out tonight, but probably I'll stay in and watch the Criterion Channel--if they haven't already pulled together a tribute to JLG, there'll be one later today.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

I’d like to think it is considerably different from Akerman but who knows, yet.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

xxxpost He's had his home editing suite in Rolle for years but just about all his productions going back to at least Film Socialisme have been semi or fully handmade affairs. Goodbye To Language was made using jerry-rigged iphones to create the (amazing) 3D effects, for example. I don't really think he was rolling in Euros.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link


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