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That's what I'm saying, they have magical beliefs. There is definitely no logic to it.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

this reminds me, do we have a thread about the long termist/effective altruism movement?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

Recent discussion here - rationalism AI cultist creeps

death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

don't put data centers at the north pole btw

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, September 13, 2022 12:06 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

too late im doing it now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

thank you xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

if you run a/c systems a lot more than usual they're likely to wear out, but sometimes they just... do that.. regardless. or break

one of those thing where I'd almost trust someone with an hvac background to manage a group of people administering a data center than I would some software developer who has worked their way up, because one group understands the rate of mechanical failure, and the other has a lot of weirdos who have brain holes

mh, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

one interesting thing about this has been seeing the order in which they're letting people bring systems back up, which is very highly correlated with the amount of brain holes one associates with that subgroup of engineers. i.e. the less you know about software, the sooner you get back in.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

and if you know anything about machine learning you're at the back of the line, which is 100% fair enough.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

machines should not be allowed to learn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

another reason “the internet is physical and also you can’t just accumulate infinite data and expect it to always be available” is dumb is its use of the word "infinite" tbh

mark s, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

one of those thing where I'd almost trust someone with an hvac background to manage a group of people administering a data center than I would some software developer who has worked their way up, because one group understands the rate of mechanical failure, and the other has a lot of weirdos who have brain holes

I have visited a large data center and this is close to the truth. One of the guys managing the data center talked about a certain piece of software for distributing work across machines as being rated to XX megawatts, which kinda floored me.

death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

Maybe ‘the Internet is not eternal’ is a shock to people too young to have lost their Geocities pages.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

they are amazing places. wish i'd gone into hardware tbh. i'm not sure if it's a problem or not that building them in a way that is truly resilient is beyond the abilities of everyone (including nation states) except aws, gcp and azure.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

Print out your tweets, people!

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

i actually do run https://github.com/dogsheep/twitter-to-sqlite as a daily cron job

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

Perhaps compile them into a book… about hipster puppies.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

i needlepoint all my tweets

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

You know--if there was a printer that was continuously printing out all the tweets ever tweeted on a single piece of paper, that paper would be long enough to... (1/18)

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

probably belongs on our tech jobs thread but since it's topical --

one of the data science/machine learning leads that left my employer earlier this year, along with everyone else who knew it was arriving, bought some machine learning in a crate hardware stack that's full of Nvidia A100s and it has two 3000W power supplies plus redundancies, so four power supplies total

it's been sitting in the crate outside of the data center in another state for a while. right now, they're trying to figure out how to plug it in to the grid in a way that can actually power the damn thing

mh, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

ha yes, one downside of the crash in gpu prices is that it makes financial sense to own them rather than rent them again, but owning them is hard.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

oh, I am guessing they ordered this thing before the prices dropped. it was like $250K

but if you look at, say, AWS gpu compute bills, you can still come out ahead

mh, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

tbf "hey yall, the internet isn't immaterial, it depends on physical hardware" was a significant enough academic trend in the mid-2010s for a few scholars to make their reps on it—I'm not dissing those people, that work is all pretty good—but condescendingly chiding people about it in 2022 is silly. I met a cartoonist making a book about internet (and other) infrastructure a couple years back, but his book is for younger readers.

rob, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

I just mumble the "yay, cloud!" catchphrase from the Microsoft commercials of yesteryear

mh, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

whoever came up with the name the cloud was a genius, its confounded millions of people who had to watch a commercial during a football game

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

its sounds awesome but then youre like wait what the fuck

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

'cloud' is still currency in provincial government but then everyone here is stupid so

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

the cloud is really in our hearts

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

not in mine

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

no, you clicked the agreement

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

did the ilxbook ever get published or not?

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

Promoted tweets in the replies 🤮

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 September 2022 05:40 (one year ago) link

my favourite thing on twitter is when I disagree about someone's annoying opinion about a song, then check their timeline to see the last two things they posted were retweets of oz katerji and jk rowling

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

I don’t know if anyone linked it previously but oh my god this thread

okay okay OKAY i’ll list Rolling Stone’s 500 Worst Albums

500. Moondance -- Van Morrison
499. Young Sheldon -- Radiohead
498. Turd Smokin’ -- The Turd Smoker Band
497. Well Whaddya Know 99 More Luftballoons How About That -- Nena
496. Songs to Fuck To -- Leonard Cohen

— blaine capatch (@blainecapatch) October 7, 2021

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

omg

kinder, Thursday, 22 September 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link

now that is commitment to a bit

mh, Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:46 (one year ago) link

Well. This is new. pic.twitter.com/Vd1bvDiGQC

— unfriendly black hottie 🪩✨ (@battymamzelle) October 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

Shitty pro cop local news affiliate shamed into deleting a tweet by a product tweak that elevated the usual ratio to a more visible “this is a lie”.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

My locked account with ~100 followers had been suspended for "hateful conduct" because I called Oz Katerji a cunt. Question is which one of the 100 dobbed me in and was it a relative?

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 October 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

couldve just been detected by their systems

lag∞n, Monday, 3 October 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link

Does that happen? It really seems to hate the word "cunt" and not really care much about the actual content of the tweet.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 06:14 (one year ago) link

they def have systems that try to detect abusive speech, idk know really what theyre looking for tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 12:15 (one year ago) link

quite possible that word is tagged as misogynist hate speech (by Americans)

rob, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

you can def say the bad word cunt on twitter tho it might be flagged when arranged with other words in a shape some computer program finds suspicious, id guess the flagged tweet is then sent to a human for review and they look at it for like 3 seconds before making a decision, and english is prob not their first language, which is all to say this whole set up just doesnt work very well, it would cost too much to actually moderate the site, so instead they pretend

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

ah ok I have not experimented with saying cunt on twitter lol. Katerji being a blue check might be part of that shape.

But you're otm about pretending: I know (roughly speaking) someone who had an ad for a documentary blocked for violating the political ads ban, and they were sent three entirely different explanations for why

rob, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

yeah the whole thing is a joke you cant report someone for blatantly violating the rules and nothing happens and then you also see people get bans for doing something totally innocuous

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

and of course special allowances are made for big accounts

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

australian twitter is full of cunts, in both senses

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

Just saw this posted in the Elon thread. Caek if you’re comfortable talking about it, what’s your prognosis? Is it just a lost cause?

I see folks on the app talking how we’ll need to resort to alternatives…what ‘alternatives’? Wait, I’ve got it — Weibo.
(Once I finally manage to sign back into Wechat I’ll let y’all know how it looks from there.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek)
Posted: October 5, 2022 at 10:55:15 AM
My last day was Monday. So sad I wasn’t around for the three hour company 2023 strategy meeting yesterday that was interrupted after 15 mins by news the stock had been suspended.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

wonder if this is the last stand for social media after twitter facebook and instagram inevitably fade it seems like the next generation of apps have split into two groups neither of which are exactly social media in the sense that the older gen are, theres the video consumption apps and the talking to people apps, theres def overlap between them and each other and them and the old style socials, but as far as primary usage seems like those are the two groups that are happening now

tiktok and youtube are the two big video consumption apps, they do have social features you can follow and comment you can post your own stuff but mainly they rely on algorithmic discovery to feed you video by people who are professional or at least quasi pro video creators, its a lot like tv except with endless niches and lower production values, pretty cool in some ways tbf

then theres the talking to people apps and the shift here is from the social approach of talking to everyone at once to more of a messaging model where youre talking to just one person or a chosen group of people, this could be seen as a retrenchment in the face of the fact that talking to everyone at once ended up being kind of unpleasant and occasionally resulted in not great real life outcomes, being a public figure is not for everyone, the apps in this category are all the chat + other stuff ones, whatsapp telegram snapchat etc there are lots of them, should be noted that all or at least most of these have ways for many people to follow you if you want, but its just not the primary interface

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

you can see the pattern too in how instagram and facebook are trying to become more consumption based apps, but it prob wont really work its just too messy to turn one app into another app, ive thought for a while theres prob a smaller market for barebones clones of twitter facebook and instagram with just their core functionality and no algorithmic etc bs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link


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