Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

never gonna join some stupid online version of the masons just to watch a movie

GREAT! Movies Christmas, in September, is good though.

grade A trolling

i may be prepared to forgive GREAT! movies if they show CHRISTMAS PERFECTION (2018) tho

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7872704/

Yeah I hear MUBI is big with ver kids but again you already have to have decided to become a Cinephile to bother suscribing.

When I went to log Throw Away Your Books, Rally in the Streets on letterboxd a few weeks ago I was surprised to see people writing reviews of it every day. I checked again and they still are. I don’t know where people are watching it but that’s an example of an obscure 70s art movie that a surprising number of people are finding and watching.

Also if you're looking for Godard on streaming, Kanopy (probably the best streaming service, if your library has access to it), has a bunch; lots of 80s movies in particular like Hail Mary, First Name: Carmen and more.

The internet loves leftist politics and Japan.

I had a lousy experience watching Every Man for Himself last June. It was like Godard making a Truffaut film using the muscle memory of his '60s sensibility.

I watched that this week. Some genuinely twisted moments in it. Kinda has the vibe of those Miles Davis comeback albums where he's essentially learning to play the trumpet again.

I find it strange to see people (on this very thread in fact) repeatedly refer to Godard movies by their English titles.

Some of which I think are quite bad and clumsy, eg: BAND OF OUTSIDERS.

But I should then clearly state that if I were talking about eg: Ozu films I would say 'TOKYO STORY' and anyone who knew Japanese would think: what's that odd English person doing, using the ugly English name rather than our beautiful Japanese?

In other words while my inclination with Godard would be to use French, I cannot claim any great consistency in these matters, transnationally or beyond one or two languages. And I admit that the people using the English titles (which I mostly don't like) probably are practising consistency in a quite rational way.

As someone who didn't connect for years, I'd recommend starting with Band of Outsiders, Masculin Feminin, and Vivre sa vie. They're all very accessible. I'd save the later work for later.

― clemenza, Wednesday, September 14, 2022

This post, for instance, also demonstrates the general lack of consistency in these matters (this is not a comment on poster Clemenza, whom I do not know in any way).

Those are the official titles of the releases for those films over here, take it up with Criterion.

You're safe with "Weekend" though.

he shd have called it "the french have no word for weekend"

Tempted to start calling Breathless "About a Soufflé"

Seems to be an American thing? They're always called by their French titles here... I think?

The sheer arrogance.

You're safe with "Weekend" though.

"Week-end"

xpost En effet!

he shd have called it "the french have no word for weekend"

I blame those 10 day weeks Robespierre and his mates introduced.

I'm definitely scattershot with the titles. I'm so particular with English titles--italicizing, capitalizing correctly--and I have a hard time adjusting to not capitalizing French titles after the first word. I want to treat them like English titles, where all the words are capitalized except for those with two or three letters--even when I don't know what those words mean.

Lots of male gaze female nudity in the 80s films (and after) that is v dated

Reminds me that I sold my VHS copy of First Name: Carmen to a couple of skeevy dudes at a swamp meet by misdirecting them into thinking it was a porno.

I favor literal translations. How should one translate Bande à part?

How should one understand power in a gaze?

I find it strange to see people (on this very thread in fact) repeatedly refer to Godard movies by their English titles.

I notice in this post that you mentioned 小津 but used English characters for his name

Band apart?

(straying from the topic of this thread ... literal translations that have an affect similar to the expression in the original language with the obviousness of the translation minimized if possible but not at the cost of precision, i.e., accepting loss rather than covering for it ... I think the problem is that French speakers consider it okay to be apart whereas English speakers may not; interesting idiom discovered -- faire bande à part ... )

I feel like in the US it is acceptable to use either French or English titles. Sometimes the literal title doesn't make sense in English, thinking of The Four Hundred Blows, but eventually one learns the original phrase in the source language and...where was I?

To make thinks even more confusing, sometimes Fassbinder would use French expressions or wordplay in translation as titles, such as The Merchant of Four Seasons or Love Is Colder Than Death.

hiroshima damn shawtie ok

heh

Fovever example of completely different sense of translated title is Herzog's The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser/Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle.

I'm quite sure there are better ways to stream this, but a friend sent me a Twitter link yesterday to Histoire(s) du cinéma (takes 30 seconds to cut-and-paste correct French spelling) in eight files:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DYxt-JhZQTsxRhlNY4lFpksRWWXr4HZq?fbclid=IwAR0GpPt1u4dDMq28obXYHiFqdRVKBJbmKgFz_w1DffcZZliGiM56pEMBmZs

They work using VLC player, and I'm able to watch them on my TV with a USB.

Watch it!

Saw it at Toronto's Lightbox when it came out, but I've meaning to go back. I think one of the files might be without subtitles, though.

if you watch la chinoise first think of it as an affectionate but also quite sardonic portrait of the very extremely on-line

― mark s, Wednesday, September 14, 2022 12:41 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

except these people wear such pretty clothes

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 14, 2022 12:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, their successors are alive and active today, even among us. Especially among us. And that ending (the new school year begins, and the sons and daughters of the bourgeoisie put aside la lutte and return to their studies) continues as we speak.

Am I the only one here who's seen The Lost Record (Svevonius & Cabral, 2021, NOT RECOMMENDED unless you are a masochist)? I'll wager Ian S. is a conscious disciple of JLG.

decided to watch Godard's melancholic Germany Year 90 Nine Zero (1991) - always intrigued to see glimpses of Berlin from that moment (with a bit of Hegel thrown in) pic.twitter.com/BeGaeOWUdP

— hannah proctor (@hhnnccnnll) September 16, 2022

Aw man, I somehow missed this news. RIP.

I think that my introduction to JLG via the "cool kids smoking cigarettes" era was in fact not the best way to be introduced - I liked it but wasn't passionate about it, and it took me ages to get around to the "all politics all the time" stuff, which blew me away. A big thing of suggesting entry points is what the person you're recommending to actually wants.

yeah the pre-67 films are loved for a reason but they're not the reason i adore Godard's work

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/09/when-godard-came-to-england

"its most basic apparatuses, had to be reconsidered from ground up, ruthlessly, and politically"

does this apply also to essays about film?

no they can stay completely unreconsidered

watched alphaville again and it's a hot mess.

Grabbed Brody's Godard bio from the library this morning.

I wonder if I should mention a certain bias I detected in the Brody book, or let you read it first and see if you feel the same.

Well, I read him regularly lol so I wonder what that might be

watched the image book last night as it's up on mubi: might rewatch after reading up on it as gorgeous as it is visually it's p cryptic

jlg's narration tho lol what a voice, sub-sonic rumble and grumble soup-to-nuts

Not on MUBI US anymore :(

But it is on Criterion:)

You can get The Image Book on Kanopy.

Think you and maybe Alfred are the only ones who still have that.

Are libraries passé?

lots of libraries stopped paying for it (new york's did at least)