Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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or female too, not sure why i needed to specify that lol

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

the motion smoothing thing

Yeah, if 35mm film was shot 18 fps or whatever, I think the setting digitally fills in the the rest so it's like 1800 fps.. just awful

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

motion smoothing clears up some of the jaggies you get with fast camera movements in sports, but I still think it looks worse despite that

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

all4, channel4's shitty version of iplayer. please login. takes about 3 hours due to their dodgy software and my dodgy remote. search for programme, ditto.

play episode 8? no, i want episode 1.
advert, jewellery
advert, don't tit about on railways
advert, macdonalds coffee
warning, contains strong language...
4401-network-file error. try again in a few minutes.

repeat to fade...

(am guessing programme file is in aws glacier storage somewhere)

koogs, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Walter doesn't Present...

koogs, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

(gave up and started from episode 2 which i had recorded. was terrible, 3rd string swedish detective drama. deleted all 7 hours)

koogs, Saturday, 15 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

Over here on the smaller island, I haven't had a problem with All 4 in years, either through the app on my telly or on my laptop, and I use it all the time. I'm always surprised to see reports about its awfulness.

trishyb, Sunday, 16 October 2022 08:36 (one year ago) link

It died on its arse completely for the recent England-Germany match which did briefly have me thinking I should go back to cable.

nashwan, Sunday, 16 October 2022 09:37 (one year ago) link

live streaming is a different beast, especially at scale (this is my day job)

but the first episode of something from September, on demand, should be easy

koogs, Sunday, 16 October 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link

soap opera effect

This is the main reason why I'm sticking to my old TV that is pushing 20 years old. All the new TVs I've seen make everything look like crap.

o. nate, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

My problem with new tellies is that you more or less can't watch standard-definition telly on them anymore. It's all fuzzy and indistinct unless it's HD.

trishyb, Monday, 17 October 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

Friend signed up for a print cartridge subscription while doing a degree. Degree is now complete, he no longer has need for it so cancelled. However now when he tries to print something with his remaining cartridge it blocks the printer asking him to renew his subscription in order to use it. He could buy a new cartridge but apparently for ppl who cancel without paying it straight up blocks the printer entirely.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 24 October 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

That's outrageous!

kinder, Monday, 24 October 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

the subscription/SaaS model is coming for everything physical that it can

rob, Monday, 24 October 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

and it's not really a "technological" step since the way the printer functions hasn't changed at all

rob, Monday, 24 October 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

all technological steps are better understood as techno-social, imo. nothing just "happens" or becomes widespread just because it's technically possible.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

I assume Telsa will eventually use the subscription model for braking

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 24 October 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

I assume that along with the heated seats, BMW's already doing that with their turn signals.

pplains, Monday, 24 October 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

your smart toilet has a subscription model for flushing.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

it seems like the more technologically complex things get the more fragile they are and harder to fix

Technological innovation is a selling point and just thrown in to make sales rather than improve the product

| (Latham Green), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

I think the fragility is part of the design to force people to continue pouring money into things instead of having items which last and therefore don't continue to generate revenue.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Relevant sketch at 11:20:

https://omny.fm/shows/this-is-branchburg/episode-1-welcome-to-branchburg

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

I assume that along with the heated seats, BMW's already doing that with their turn signals.

The old ones are the best :D

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 24 October 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

it is also fitting that phones became the money-making racket du-jour at the turn of the century. a commodity that everybody needed that became a gadget arms race that reduced the amount of affordable options for people who were literally just using them to make calls.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

The old ones are the best :D

― Chewshabadoo, Monday, October 24, 2022 12:51 PM

You talking about BMWs or blinker jokes?

pplains, Monday, 24 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

Hey, Blinken!

stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 October 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

i had a 1980 320i about 25 years ago and that car had almost every single mechanical problem possible. then it got stolen. when it got recovered about a month later, i was somewhat disappointed tbh.

sarahell, Saturday, 29 October 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

there's no mute button on a Roku remote

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

My wife just sent me a recipe that was an Instagram Reel. It has written recipe underneath but to follow it in the app I either have to listen to some terrible music, or mute, either way preventing me from listening to the podcast I was listening to. Taking five screenshots appears to be the only way to get this into a vaguely usable format.

Alba, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

Out of curiosity, what's the backward step?

pplains, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

there's no mute button on a Roku remote

I still wonder about this.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

Out of curiosity, what's the backward step?


Having to scroll and take 5 (actually 7, I just checked) screenshots to get a recipe rather than have it on one page.

Alba, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

That's a good example of the social construction of technology though—there's nothing inherent to Reels (no "affordances") that suggests you should use it to share written text

As someone who thinks of their phone as an overly complicated iPod, I do think your audio being interrupted because the photo-sharing app mutated into something else counts

rob, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Possibly I’m old-fashioned for wanting the written recipe and other people are actually watching the Reel over and over while they cook, or memorising it. Or perhaps no one else is actually making the recipe.

Alba, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

VAR

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

pp is wondering when you previously had to take five screenshots to capture a recipe, as opposed to it being a bad forward step, I believe

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

This isn't technology per se, but I just read an article about how a number of streaming services are introducing ad-based plans to their service. Definitely feels like a step backward, in the sense that the introduction of streaming was heralded as a break from the old television model. Now, we're right back to it. It was probably naïve to think capitalist corporations would eliminate something as capitalist as advertising, but...

Free marketeers are always talking about how the market/competition will lead to the most desirable result for consumers, but it seems more like a race to the bottom. Are consumers clamoring for more advertising on their paid platforms? Or a proliferation of minor services like Discovery+? Thank god I know how to torrent.

I was particularly thinking about this sort of thing after taking a flight for the first time in years, and being shocked at how much is now fee-based. A five hour flight, but no free meal. $10 for Wi-Fi. Hell, I wasn't even given the entire can of complimentary Coke. Again, it seems like the market is just competing for how much they can suck out of customers.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

so Amazon's stupid media app.

I have a OnePlus phone, and I have an enormous number of purchases of Amazon digital music, so I used to download the mp3s onto my phone for flights. or sometimes if I want to use an individual track in a recording. This was easy as fuck prior to like, this year, after a recent app update.

Now, on many devices (including mine), you can't actually download music from the app to your device. it 'downloads' to the Amazon app, meaning if you go into the Downloaded tracks section, they'll show there and play offline, but you aren't able to access them on your phone.

But there is a workaround! if you go onto the website in desktop mode from your phone and purchase the track, then you can download it the old school way!!!

Combine this with the fact that instead of just showing you your library, when you click on a band in your library, it shows you their entire discography, often which is littered with shit that is erroneously attributed to them, and if you click the Library button to just see the stuff that you bought, it shows you all of the tracks you bought from each album, but to get to the album itself and play them in order, you have to right click and click on "go to album".

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link

xps Samsung Sound Assistant, and I'm guessing similar, has an option for allowing any apps to play sounds at the same time (and control the volume for each, like you would on a computer pretty much). Might be sort of a backwards step mess on its own, but I prefer it to interruptions.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

shuts everything up for calls at least

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

Roku doesn't want you muting ads.

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

pp is wondering when you previously had to take five screenshots to capture a recipe, as opposed to it being a bad forward step, I believe

I was thinking of someone in her kitchen in 1980, trying to follow along with Julia Child cooking something on television, frustrated that she couldn't also listen to the radio at the same time.

What a HELPFUL Insta cook would do is post the recipe in the comments.

I am all the way with alba in that for many, many things, there doesn't need to be audio and visual. But calling a recipe channel a backward step from a cookbook, well, I'm there in spirit, but I don't know if it'll hold up in Practical Court.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

whatever medium a recipe is in, I'm bound to sit down with a pen and paper first and work out substitutions and scale.. and write it out in shorthand in steps. Then I make a great meal and throw away my notes.

I should buy a scribbler lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

What a HELPFUL Insta cook would do is post the recipe in the comments.

I think we're talking at cross purposes, pplains - she had posted the written recipe below, but it wasn't possible to get it all one page, hence the seven screenshots. Yes, I wasn't comparing it to TV cookery; I was comparing it to the ease of accessing a written recipe on a website (where at least you can copy and paste if it's in an annoying format) or, heaven forfend, a book/magazine.

Alba, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

well I'll be danged -- can't copy text in insta.

Practical Court finds for alba, court adjourned.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

I've always wondered if Apple pushed the "live text" feature in the latest OSes because of so many folks having to screenshot as a work around for whatever b.s. page formatting is bolluxing it up.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

xp - also, why would you want your phone next to you while you are preparing food that could end up making a mess of your phone? Insta is so horrible for anything that requires reading more text than like, 5 words total. ... I remember being annoyed at the formatting when I had to c&p band bios from myspace ... Insta is so much worse!

sarahell, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah tbh I often end up printing recipes out, though I managed with my screenshots today (the recipe wasn’t messy)

Alba, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link


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