The Death of the Record Collection

making sure people aren't throwing up...

fuck my writing is plummeting to new depths.

at my wedding reception i had iTunes DJ set up and since all my friends are dorks, they all had iPhones that could connect via Remote to my library and request songs/vote for other requests etc. it worked out great.

i've never had any sort of record collection. except about 1000 classical music cds

okay lol

hee hee

I bought some CDs and records today.

did you take an autogyro to the store?

some people who host parties have crap music taste, or are two busy running around making people aren't throwing up all over the stairwell walls to want to worry about changing cds on the stereo

Well, you wouldn't go to that party to hear music, and if you did, it wouldn't be a major tragedy.

i don't go to parties to hear music though...

i go there to throw up in the stairwell.

sometimes i feel a bit guilty about getting so much for free. but really, i couldn't give a fuck about the majority of musician's getting paid for their recordings. i've said this before on here - most of the musicians i know that actually put in a 40+ hour week are pretty good at what they do and get paid well for it. they might teach, get arts based funding, play lots of shows, do corporate functions, session work, play in an orchestra, sell cds/merch/downloads/records, dj on the side, busk, produce/engineer for other people, do workshops etc. there's a good living to be made in a combination of those there.

would like to point out my huge objection to this, but also really really dont want to derail this thread with that because weve talked around it a billion gazillion times already.

Well yeah, it's pretty much been well established that modern society thinks that musicians are slaves.

lol there's a good kind of shitty living to be made in a combination of those there.

It's established that modern society thinks that if musicians aren't slaves already, they should be. "LOL now they have to work for a living like me, boo fucking hoo". Anybody who says 'it's good that live performances are the main revenue source' can fuck themselves. Going to gigs sucks and so does playing them. Anyway, music is now worthless so in a few years we won't even be talking about it.

xp

Well yeah, it's pretty much been well established that modern society thinks that musicians are slaves.

no way! they enjoy their work, therefore people shouldn't feel bad about not paying for it! no person who enjoys his work should be paid jack shit imo

hey jjusten:

dude is it cool if i hold off on paying for getting my bass head repaired until i have busked for enough money....also i have applied for an arts grant. *fingers crossed* : )

xp good thing i don't enjoy my work!

Well yeah, it's pretty much been well established that modern society thinks that musicians are slaves.

not to be a broken record on this subject but pre-modern and relatively ancient societies pretty much felt the same way

SERIOUSLY LOCK THREAD NOW

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not to be a broken record on this subject but pre-modern and relatively ancient societies pretty much felt the same way

OH WELL THAT'S OKAY THEN

xpost: come on guys, you really want to watch Shakey and me have the same argument again; I'll even through in my "punk sux" challops as seasoning

many ancient societies also thought it was cool to just throw the contents of your chamberpot out the window. as a musician I demand that when I empty my chamberpot onto the street below, someone pay me for my performance

I like how everyone's suggestion for making money in a post-album-selling world is like: live shows (which is a BIG MONEY MAKER!!!! and always feasible for everyone) or, like, sell tons of merch, ie. something that does not relate to your presumed music-making skill.
(although I think the real answer is probably licensing/making music for things that pay royalties, like films/ads/games whatever else)

"I call this one 'A Good Morning's Effort', you uncultured bastards"

let's go back to talking about binders pls.

no problems with them since I increased the fiber in my diet

wtf why did I type "through" instead of "throw"

video game companies have about 1 zillion major label bands hustling them for soundtrack placement for every one song slot available.

sometimes record companies even PAY to have songs placed, and most newer bands get jack shit or nothing to be in a game...yeah like the beatles or something like that will

rock band downloads you could actually make money on though

I find the life of the professional jingle writer fascinating, actually!

Buckner & Garcia were jingle writers before they did Pac-Man Fever!

basically the new success in the music industry is either be Buckner & Garcia or Insane Clown Posse

hmmm... I wonder if I've got a Barry Manilow "State Farm Insurance" song in me

YOU CAN DO IT : )

http://thedailyelephant.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/tony-little-gazelle.jpg

i was just in a conversation with someone who knew the dude who wrote the "national american university" jingle -- everybody was like, wow awesome, i wanna punch that guy in the throat

na-tion-al a-mer-i-can universiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVtkuQacp8&feature=related

I recorded this commercial and would watch in endlessly.

sometimes record companies even PAY to have songs placed, and most newer bands get jack shit or nothing to be in a game...yeah like the beatles or something like that will

yup.

I am resisting the urge to post e-mails I've received from "Promotional companies" who want ME to pay THEM to put my band's song(s) on a comp CD to be shopped around for videogame/tv show/ad placement. Yes, please take my money so I can maybe one day see a few cents for my music being used in a diaper commercial. fucking people, sometimes I hate them.

lol Dan you think nobody can hear the backwards-masked "wicked clown"s in that ad but I can

the only reasons for me to maintain a collection of music as digital files:

1) so i can mess with that shit in editing software, make mixes etc. (not sure if this is something that could ever work as well just online but maybe, eventually)

2) seeming inability of apps like spotify to include all the things you want to hear (partly due to the tedious draconian licensing crap but also obscureness/actual unavailability of some material)

3) DJing...you wouldn't want to rely on a streaming service alone for this - i've yet to use a laptop, ipod or similar for the purpose either but would)

i doubt i'll possess any CDs (and probably no vinyl either, tho that stuff does have more sentimental and aesthetic value) 5-10 years from now if not sooner

harder to say whether amount of music on hard drives will now start to slowly shrink

nina meyers!

ah hi dere why lol at that? i studied classical music. buy a cd, buy/copy a score, that was my "collecting". or was that some sort of OIC thinks he's a serious musician because he's studied it. fair enough. whatever.

"Going to gigs sucks and so does playing them" does not compute.

eh, anyway, the way i see it there's no way selling your own recordings on its own is going to make you any money anymore. i'd rather find solutions than moan about how greedy people are and how fucked up the music industry is. i'd rather busk for a day than work a bar job. at least with the busking i have to arrange some tunes, practice, learn something that can inform my own work. i'd rather teach guitar to 15 kids a week than sit at a shitty office job. i guess that's just me.

maybe i spent too long reading big george in sound on sound and took the "work your fucking ass off or just give up" attitude of my music business lectures too seriously.

anyway, back to people selling their cds and records.

That was a lol at "I don't have a music collection aside from this pile of 1000 CDs", which most (if not all) people would look at and say "hmm, that bears an uncanny resemblance to a large collection of music".

john if you can remember one show me a thread where you make your point about all of this, i'd be interested in it. TMG are aiit.

yeah, doh, i guess i don't see it like that. they live with my books, it not so much for pleasure as much as knowing stuff for essays and stuff.

Spent 3 hours yesterday digging through dusty records in some diddleshit town in western PA and pulled out 36 awesome 12"s (some of which are pretty hard to find and obscure, some just classics) for $50. Also spent some time talking to the guy working about weird dub, burritos, and Red Hot Chili Peppers tattoos. Why would I give all this up to stream shit to my phone?!?!

I can get behind streaming music but streaming shit is a step too far

we all have those days... I just try to leave the phone out of it.

I've spent months ripping my collection to flac and am almost done. I've only trimmed a little fat, selling about 8% of the CDs. I have over 7,000 albums on the NAS at home and backed up at work. It's awesome being able to access anything in my collection virtually 24-7. And when the 2TB SDXC cards finally come out, I will pretty much have it all with me almost all the time. Perhaps someday it'll be embedded in our skin.