Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

it's crazy how many times people have mistakenly thought he did something horrible

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ca-judge-finds-trump-likely-lied-to-court-in-georgia-big-lie-case

President Trump knew that data supposedly showing voter fraud in the 2020 election was false, but signed a court document attesting to it regardless, a federal judge said on Wednesday.

U.S. District Judge David Carter for the Central District of California found that Trump likely lied to a Georgia federal court in December 2020, when he claimed that Fulton County had counted the votes of the dead, convicted felons, and unregistered voters.

Trump had already filed a lawsuit making the claims in Georgia state court.

But when the former President’s legal team began to consider moving the state court case to federal court, Trump attorney John Eastman realized that the data was flawed, Carter found.

“Although the President signed a verification for [the state court filing] back on Dec. 1, he has since been made aware that some of the allegations (and evidence proffered by the experts) has been inaccurate,” Eastman wrote in a Dec. 5, 2020 email cited by Carter. “For him to sign a new verification with that knowledge (and incorporation by reference) would not be accurate.”

Trump and his lawyers ended up filing the federal lawsuit with the faulty information anyway, Carter said. The judge remarked that the federal lawsuit was filed “without rectifying, clarifying, or otherwise changing” the incorrect data.

how does he keep getting blamed for this stuff? get a life, people!!

"deposed" as in deposition... boring

I was hoping it was more deposed like Ceaușescu

disposed

I really think he made a deal with Morgoth that he can get away with anything an then when he dies his soul becomes a giant tarantula for eternity

Trump's legendary sense of humor

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-joked-scotus-leaker-threat-be-bride-of-a-prisoner-2022-10

I didn't know they made glasses in this shade of rose-tinted:

https://www.newsweek.com/2022/11/04/sweet-revenge-what-trump-would-do-second-term-1754654.html

Bolton, too, can envision Trump trying to hang on past a second term. But he also suggests an alternative, far more benign vision of how Trump might cope with the hard stop that in principle awaits him at the end of that term. "In a second term, Trump will start thinking about his legacy," he says. "He doesn't want to go down in history as a loser. And because his supporters can't vote for him anymore, he won't care what they think."

Liberated from having to play to his base, says Bolton, Trump may attempt to establish himself as someone who can restore balance to a deeply polarized America, putting behind him the fact that he himself is responsible for much of that polarization. "People think Trump is a conservative, but he's not," says Bolton. "Jared [Kushner, his son-in-law and former advisor] and Ivanka [Trump, his daughter and former advisor] are basically Manhattan liberals. If they said to him his next Supreme Court nomination should be a liberal, he might listen."

The notion that Trump has been playing at being an arch-conservative to fire up his base isn't that fantastic; he was a registered Democrat for eight years until 2009. A Trump 47 who dropped his flamethrower to pick up a fire extinguisher might be a possibility. He showed hints of being a bridge-builder early in his first term.

Bolton is quick to hedge that bet. "In the Trump universe," he says, "you can't rule anything out."

He showed hints of being a bridge-builder early in his first term.

was that before or after the muslim ban

I think it's when he said the words "infrastructure week"

Maybe when he evoked the specter of "American carnage" in his inauguration speech. That was a real moment of coming together.

Pretty sure was willing to ogle, grab, assault, and/or demean women from BOTH parties.

I think he spoke for all Americans when he told the 7 year-old kid that at his age it was "marginal" to still believe in Santa Claus.

when he’s right, he’s right

The one hilarious thing from Trump’s insane inauguration speech was George W Bush allegedly saying to his companions when it was over:”Well THAT was fucked up”.

the day george w bush finally became president

I think it was, "That was some weird shit," which somehow is even funnier.

Roy Cohn taught him well.. when threatened, counter-attack:

In the latest lawsuit - which was filed to the Florida State Circuit Court - Mr Trump accused Ms James of "a relentless, pernicious, public and unapologetic crusade" against him and the Trump Organization.

He also alleges that the attorney general's own case against him is a "plot" to obtain control of his business that began as a "cartoonish, thinly-veiled effort to publicly malign" the former president.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63501157

As a counter attack that's not worth a bucket of warm piss in regards the court system. it only works when the media picks it up, makes a story out of it, and his bogus claims get quoted as serious litigation.

which the media obligingly does for him, bcz their interests overlap.

It's wild seeing someone tweeting from a fake verified Trump account, openly question why they hadn't gotten suspended yet, and then continue going for another full day. pic.twitter.com/FdTcpF0J8l

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) November 12, 2022

"I call him king" -- Trump on President Xi pic.twitter.com/lPJqGGsEED

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 16, 2022

Pivot! https://t.co/13LKY8bQwK

— Roy Edroso (@edroso) November 16, 2022

Some people tried to leave his speech last night partway through and apparently security wouldn't let them leave, they were locked in until the end.

Welcome to the Hotel Maralago

At what point does that count as kidnapping?

Flashing onto Carrie closing the doors on those two suckers at the prom.

lol President Keyes!

Some people tried to leave his speech last night partway through and apparently security wouldn't let them leave, they were locked in until the end.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0),

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r70KNoEFLc

the fact that he is even able to run at all is a sad sign for America and the world

I turned on his speech last night and he was talking about the Carters. I was like wtf?

Trump goes on strange riff about taking back the "carters of power". pic.twitter.com/DJndyCAq4B

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 16, 2022

Bien sûr, Soto's movie reference is classier than mine

I turned on his speech last night and he was talking about the Carters. I was like wtf?

― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes

idk it's a courteous gesture considering how Aaron died

I was expecting him to diss Jimmy Carter for not having the balls to run against Reagan in 1984.

Hotel Maralago forever and ever now. Damnation.

Maybe it's another landscaping thing

https://carterspower.com/

Jealous of all the Jay-Z / Beyonce press he isn't getting.

This speech is Trump's message delivered with Jeb Bush's energy and Ted Cruz's charisma

— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) November 16, 2022

I'm biased, but this dude running again falls into the "how can we miss you if you don't go away?" void. I mean, he's essentially been running for the past two years, why anyone should care more now is a mystery.

yeah I was honestly confused by the NYT opinion section being 90% trump today, like this is some seismic event. I guess they all had them ready to go in drafts lol

his fans care and the rest follow suit because they know he will not hesitate to throw them all under the bus if they hurt his precious feelings

The Nytimes made a big deal about hiring a *third* Trump reporter just last week. They're fuckin' lame.

It's doubtless all mummery and posing from Murdoch but still, that NY Post 'Florida Man' cover bullet and then the actual story.

NY Post: Florida Man Makes Announcement —> story deep inside on page 26. pic.twitter.com/rccr3OcD1P

— Christine Romans (@ChristineRomans) November 16, 2022

(But there is something to be said to compare this to the NYT reaction.)

for one this version of Trump is a lot more openly fascist. for two he's way less fun. for three the evidence is mounting that he's actively torpedoing the Republican party so there aren't as many Trumpy loudmouths at Denny's to take advice from. not saying the MSM is gonna learn any lessons but I can see him not getting the clicks he used to.

he's way less fun.

Speak for yerself.

well, the question of him returning to Twitter or not is being solved by Elon Musk destroying Twitter before campaign season begins

I mean, I know he's just parroting his favorite dictators of the past and present, but it's hard to get any lols out of him being cheered for wanting to execute drug offenders.

Donald Trump was never fun unless you're Maggie Haberman. Habers gonna Habe.

I appreciated this since it delved into some details and data

https://www.thedailybeast.com/day-1-of-the-trump-campaignand-his-donors-are-already-exhausted

Voting will be done purely on Twitter in 2024.