The Best of Guided By Voices: Human Amusements at Hourly Rates, With Surgical POLLcus

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xp Atom Eyes is my favourite track on that record too, it's a Sprout number I think?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 20 October 2022 09:30 (one year ago) link

I've found something called the Guided by Voices Database which confirms Sprout wrote that number, goodbye spare time!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 20 October 2022 09:32 (one year ago) link

I hate all Tobin Sprout songs

You are the first GBV fan I have ever met who hates the Tobin songs

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 20 October 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link

it's mainly his voice, which I find weak and warbly and especially ill-suited to the lo-fi production. something like little whirl just makes me want to curl up into a ball. atom eyes is an ok song I guess, though lacking in any of the spark found in pollard's.

ledge, Thursday, 20 October 2022 12:04 (one year ago) link

i love little whirl

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 October 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

had to vote Exit Flagger. This comp is certainly superfluous in the streaming era but it was definitely my intro to GBV and I still love it a lot even after going thru the rest of the discography.

Will (kruezer2), Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

I like Tobin's songs but I see ledge's point.

FIrst response otm.

I need a comp like this for the reunion era. No idea where to start with that stuff.

jmm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

not sure there are even 20 songs of this quality from the reunion era sadly. "overloaded" is the only one i can think of that i would put on this

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

still love pollard and his songorrhea but wish "huffman prairie flying field" had remained the band proper's sign-off, it was a perfect ending

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

No “lethargy” no cred

calstars, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

i made a comp of "ok" songs from the reunion era but that was 5 years ago and they've put out 15 albums since then. nothing touches them at the top of their game tho. (Propeller and Bee 1000) Excited for Scalping the Guru to come out--I don't have a lot of these

https://www.rockathonrecords.com/guided-by-voices

voted for HOT FREAKS

a (waterface), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

It's Not Them. It Couldn't Be Them. It Is Them!

^ One for the Horrible 2020s album titles thread

jmm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

HOT FREAKS coming up on some playlist was what prompted us to pull up this comp for the drive. great song. just looked up the lyrics and am surprised to realize he says "thigh man," not "spy man."

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

Styles We Paid For is GBV’s third album of 2020 and

wow

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

HOT. FREAKS.

a (waterface), Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

yeah after the initial few reunion albums pollard seems to have just decided to start releasing all the stuff that would have been solo pollard in the past as GBV

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

“tractor rape chain”

― k3vin k., Wednesday, October 19, 2022 9:55 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

J. Sam, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

Compilation otm for picking the 7" version of "Pricks" and the LP version of "Hunting Knife"

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

This song is based around the end of a miserable relationship, using a metaphor based around a tractor harvesting rapeseed in the chorus to showcase the distance between people who are even physically close, moving in the same direction.

ohhh

This is welcome information.

jmm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

yeah i seem to recall that one requiring my friend to post an explanatory diaryland addendum like "this is from a song lyric"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed about half of the 2019 double album Zeppelin Over China, he's quite good at maintaining a "quite good" level of quality. The main problem is that his voice is starting to fray.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

"my valuable hunting knife" is the one that speaks to me

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

hard choice of Teenage FBI over Game of Pricks

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Really?

calstars, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Teenage FBI? I must be listening to a different band

calstars, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Man I think the last few years have been real strong. Maybe not to the heights of the mid 90s but not much is IMO.

ColinO, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

It's the far superior EP version of "Teenage FBI", important to note

jmm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

I need a comp like this for the reunion era. No idea where to start with that stuff.

A couple years ago I attempted to come up with a sequel to Human Amusements, covering everything after that comp came out: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1idxGsnYtzSHZY2ipxQSdP. They've put out 6 albums since then.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

xps I really like Teenage FBI as well, heretical opinion but Do the Collapse is right up there for me albums-wise, probably because it's the one I heard first

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

yeah based on these tracks Do The Collapse is one of the albums i'm most interested in turning to next! also "Teenage FBI" is one of the best combos here of a great anthemic chorus and a lyrical metaphor that truly hits with me --- "are you still being followed by the teenage FBI?" hell man, ain't we all.

realization: the main "Surgical Focus" riff is kind of them doing "Driver 8." works for me.

if i were forced to make this a 24-track comp, i'd probably drop "14 Cheerleader Coldfront," "Learning to Hunt," "Bulldog Skin," "To Remake the Young Flyer," "Hit," "The Official Ironmen Rally Song," "Non-Absorbing," and "Back to the Lake." i like some of those okay, but i wouldn't truly miss them if they were gone. so i guess i should definitely avoid Under the Bushes Under the Stars and Mag Earwhig!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Under the Bushes, Under the Stars is one of the best sequenced albums in music. It's also miles better than Do the Collapse, possibly the worst GBV album.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

"Bulldog Skin" is pretty much the worst song on "Mag Earwhig".

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

do the collapse is cool they got a major label release and ric ocasek producing and pollard showed up with all his weirdest twistiest songs instead of straightforward rockers

isolation drills is the 'correction' on the latter point and is better but i'm glad they both exist for the juxtaposition

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

No one interested in GBV should avoid Under the Bushes. There were some big omissions from that album on this comp (like Don't Stop Now).

Chris L, Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

huh, ok! good to know, thanks y'all.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

huh i just listened to last year's Earth Man Blues and this is way tighter than the several others i've heard from the past 5 years

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

I think they have a really good line-up right now (the "classic" line-up they reformed with was no longer that), and I usually like what I hear on the most recent albums. The problem is it's sort of a case of too much, too late.

Chris L, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

"Bulldog Skin" was the lead single/video from Mag Earwhig & "Official Ironman Rally Song" was the lead single from Under the Bushes, so I think they kinda had to include them here. Bob purportedly didn't like Ocasik's synths all over Do The Collapse's single "Teenage FBI" as it's lead single, resulting in the EP version appearing on here.

BrianB, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

i really like "teenage fbi." it's smoother and higher-falutin than the classic era works but it still has a great melody and lines that are profound and cryptic in the typical pollard fashion. i've always loved the line "when you're around me, i'm somebody else"

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

I've never liked Doug Gillard's guitar playing tbh.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

xp the problem is there's no quality control anymore, he might still produce one good album's worth of songs a year but it's spread across 3 albums

this one seems to have rolled a high number of them though

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

also his singing is getting noticeably worse yeah

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

doesn't help that some fans cry wolf on every new one being the best one in a while so i've stopped believing it. but here i am perpetuating it by saying that Earth Man Blues is in fact the one

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Propeller is a bit misleadingly represented on this comp. Both great songs, but they don't exactly reflect the big classic rock sound on that album. I guess it'd be hard to include "Over the Neptune/Mesh Gear Fox" anywhere but as the first track.

jmm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

they should have, a salty salute is iconic too but not on the level of that one

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

XXXXP Wait, maybe "Hold on Hope" was the first single off of Do The Collapse and it doesn't appear here at all, so ignore my flawed logic above. But I think Bob hated the Ocassik production of that song too, so maybe that's why it didn't appear here. At any rate, searching for the truth about Hold on Hope, I found out that Glen Campbell covered it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_y7bOKXOlg

BrianB, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Pollard hated the song too, not just the production.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link

i remember pollard badmouthing "hold on hope" even before it came out, which probably wasn't the best move.

tylerw, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

xp the problem is there's no quality control anymore, he might still produce one good album's worth of songs a year but it's spread across 3 albums

Over the last several years I find that I really like the first album they put out in a given year (e.g. Earth Man Blues), but any that come out after that are largely forgettable. This may be by design.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

I need a comp like this for the reunion era. No idea where to start with that stuff.

electricsound chose these songs from the first wave of reunion albums, though obviously there have been fifty more records since then

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

I've never liked Doug Gillard's guitar playing tbh.

This

calstars, Thursday, 20 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

The early 90s albums already sound like compilations of cut and pasted ephemeral am rock radio fragments, so it seems weird to me to cut them out again and paste them into this compilation alongside the slick “professional” stuff. it’s like two different bands. The balance is off.

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

speak kindly of your volunteer fire department is a sweet Dillard-era album

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

lol Gillard

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

xp I think it works, but then I've listened to this compilation a lot so I'm used to it. The shifts from polished to lo-fi and back are cool. And the fragmentary GBV style is kind of downplayed - the selections from the lo-fi period tend to be fleshed-out songs. "Hit" stands out to me as the only real odds-and-ends style selection.

jmm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link

Several live staples from that era were on Speak Kindly.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

xp, I'll have to listen to this because of what you said about shifts in production. Recently, on a mix of my favorite songs from another lo-fi band, I had to deal with finding the best track progression which isn't simple.

V/R\V/R\V/R (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 21 October 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

Several live staples from that era were on Speak Kindly.

When I saw them in 2000, he introduced the songs from this record thus: "Speak kindly of your volunteer fire department... cos they just might save your flaming asshole".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 21 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

not sure there are even 20 songs of this quality from the reunion era sadly. "overloaded" is the only one i can think of that i would put on this

Dang, this is a fantastic song. From the credits it doesn't look like Bob had anything to do with it - it's drummer Kevin March's song (including vocals).

jmm, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

"Trust Them Now" on Earth Man Blues is a gem.

jmm, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 30 October 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

got it down to 4 or 5 contenders that i love roughly equally; pulled the lever for Teenage FBI (sorry, calstars!).

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 October 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 31 October 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

thanks for voting, everyone! i love the really wide spread here, so many 1-vote picks. and the old-schoolers can take comfort in the cumulative totals for the mid-90s material.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 31 October 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

I voted “Game of Pricks.” Can’t believe “Motor Away” only got two votes.

Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

I love it but voted for Tractor, just shows you how great the top tier stuff is in general

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

(referring to "Motor Away")

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link


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