Elon Musk

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If ads are the new content they should pay me to read sites.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

which is the far left echo chamber network and how do I sign up

rob, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

lmao

Jim Cramer is tearing up over $META

Generational bottom in process pic.twitter.com/3tICGm6qoi

— Inverse Cramer ETF (Not Jim Cramer) (@CramerTracker) October 27, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

xp you're posting on it right now :)

frogbs, Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

haha "inverse cramer etf"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

"Musk said his primary motivation for buying the company is to ensure the “future of civilization.” He said the goal is to preserve a “common digital town square,” where people with wide-ranging beliefs can debate their views without resorting to violence, rather than splintering into “far right-wing and far left-wing echo chambers.”

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 27, 2022"

This guy really has a savior complex

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 27 October 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

he sure is into the idea that the main purpose of town squares is the holding of debates.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 October 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

for everyone looking to move to mastodon now that twitter's dying, i have some news for you: Evidence Of Ancient Giants Unearthed In Vietnam

— big baby (wailing) (@dec_in_stone) October 27, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 October 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Very soon, Elon will be Twitter's only employee, circling the earth high above us in a Space X pod, saving civilization one unmoderated tweet at a time... Silent Running on social media

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

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— BertelSchmitt™ 🇺🇦💉💉💉💉🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩 (@BertelSchmitt) October 27, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

As one of his first moves, he fired several top Twitter executives, according to three people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters. One of those confirmed the deal had closed.

CEO Parag Agrawal, chief financial officer Ned Segal, and Vijaya Gadde, head of legal policy, trust, and safety, were all fired, according to the people. Sean Edgett , the company’s general counsel, was also pushed out, one of the people said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/27/twitter-elon-musk

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

Previously reported to have declared that he will fire 75% of employees, which does not bode well for security, also he's been quite the troll on there from time to time, and the public square is already starting to smell strange. It's been fun, but I'm gone.

dow, Friday, 28 October 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

deactivated deleted. my account sucked anyway, because idngaf about twitter, but it would be a shame if something really terrible happened to it or musk.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 28 October 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link

you're leaving twitter? henry kissinger is still alive, and you're leaving twitter?

— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 07:00 (one year ago) link

the important thing about Elon buying twitter is we all have to act like Tumblr after Yahoo bought it. devalue this platform. make it much worse. stop "driving engagement" and start depression posting. block every promoted tweet. we can do this.

— Hazel Southwell (@HSouthwellFE) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link

I instinctively block promoted tweets (they make it easier than any other platform) and for a while 99% of my ads were for HIV/PREP drugs and then that transitioned to ads aimed at doctors trying to get people to take them.

(the old story about Target predicting a teenager's pregnancy based on the algorithm had me worried for about a minute when the first HIV ad popped up.)

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 28 October 2022 09:45 (one year ago) link

People saying they are going to leave because more bad ppl are going to come back assumes there aren't enough bad people posting today. Or that the situation was improving purely because a few accounts (Trump's) was finally put to rest. This is really, really not the case.

But if it becomes markedly worse at aggregation of opinion/news then it will be diminished.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link

Blue check marks for every scanner crimewatch account

Eric H., Friday, 28 October 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link

Lol at this discussion

Am I the only person who thinks you would lose something if we all retreated into our little soc media walled gardens?

— Tom Munday (@tommundaycs) October 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

I've deactivated my barely used account. So you can look forward to a...slight reduction in embedded tweets on the uk pol thread.

nashwan, Friday, 28 October 2022 11:10 (one year ago) link

All of the “free speech” platforms are unusable right wing cesspools due to the lack of moderation. If Musk wants to turn Twitter into that, good for him, it will lose all of its value to advertisers.

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link

Twitter already does a bad job rooting out the troll accounts, the frog picture people and whatever. What they do right now is ban the big accounts that violate their policies, like Trump. With those people back on it will make the site shittier though as the trolls will feel like it is “their” space, they’ll have more big tweets to congregate around.

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

musk already told advertisers that hes not going to make it a right wing free for all, who knows what hell actually do, but theres really no angle to making it a total shithole, theres no point in owning it if people stop using it, which is happening anyway lol

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

thanks, bro!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 October 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

absolute power currupts tweets

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgflip.com/1ibkfp.jpg

Musk about to let all the baddies back out.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

the funny and likely thing that could happen here is musk making twitter more "free speech' causing advertisers and users to leave causing musk to roll back the free speech causing his loony fans to hate him

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

hopefully its value drops to the point where it can one day join the ilx family of apps

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

lol Josh - "it's true, this man has no dick"

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

I love people who are posting things like, "Now that we have free speech on Twitter, I can say ..." and then proceed to post dumb shit that was already on Twitter all the time.

I still think the best analogy to this is rich guys buying newspapers, which was also traditionally much more for clout and bragging rights than as a business proposition. But also, those rich guys almost always end up getting antsy when it turns out it's hard to actually make money running a media company, and one thing most rich guys really don't like is losing money. It's inconceivable to me that even as big a troll as Elon will not want return on $44 billion. And the reality is, there are only a few ways to make money from a media platform, no matter how large — basically some combination of advertising and subscriptions. Musk is apparently banking heavily on the latter, which seems like a reach to me, but who knows. People pay for all kinds of things I guess.

I remember the big deal when Sam Zell bought Tribune...then unceremoniously dumped it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Anyone who is willing to pay for access to tweets doesn't deserve respect of any kind.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

Like, a substack or a Patreon, I get it— oftentimes people are paying for long-form thinkpieces, or mixes, and they get something special out of supporting someone who isn't part of the regular media environment. Foxy Digitalis' return is a good example of this, at least in the music world.

But seriously— paying for some media asshole's tweets? Paying to access 280 character sharts? Please, only an absolute fucking dummy would do that.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

I was thinking ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/14/technology/elon-musk-is-a-digital-citizen-kane.html

"But imagine that Musk eventually buys Twitter from the stockholders who own it today. The closest comparison to this might be the 19th-century newspaper barons like William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Pulitzer and the fictional Charles Foster Kane, who used their papers to pursue their personal agendas, sensationalize world events and harass their enemies."

| (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

Yep, but the difference is that at that point newspapers were pretty good business propositions.

Sam Zell destroyed the Tribune, and the assholes he hired there were like a preview of the Trump administration.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

subscriptions will never work for twitter. it will fail just like ilx premium did.

treeship., Friday, 28 October 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

Maybe Twitter needs a 77 board

x post what if you had to pay to cancel?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

Not surprisingly, as a long-time poster on a tiny niche message board, I kind of feel like all the big social media platforms are lame and the internet was better when it was made up mostly of small niche blogs and boards. So its hard for me to get too worked up about what will happen to Twitter.

o. nate, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't want to downplay its significance (e.g. Trump), but people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance.

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Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

A lot of the freakout over the acquisition of Twitter seems to be the particular kind of upper-middle-class ladder-climbing liberal media professional just manifesting anxieties that there are massive structural disincentives in place to prevent. That Verge piece linked about goes into it well.

Musk can’t do all the nightmare horde unleashing that media types fret about and dumbass online rightwing trolls slather over because it would make the userbase flee in droves, and that userbase is the thing that gives the platform its relevancy Musk do desperately wants.

From that Verge post:

Here are some examples: you can write as many polite letters to advertisers as you want, but you cannot reasonably expect to collect any meaningful advertising revenue if you do not promise those advertisers “brand safety.” That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total assholes. So you can make all the promises about “free speech” you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that realizes the same essential truth.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't want to downplay its significance (e.g. Trump), but people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, October 28, 2022 12:41 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

would say its importance is generally underrated eg the famous expression twitter is not real life, it has reach way beyond the platform, watch any cable news show and like half of it is them reading tweets, trump obvs the ultimate example he prob wouldnt have won without it, having said that i do think it peaked a while ago and will be fairly irrelevant before long, for instance athletes are way more likely to post on instagram these days than twitter where a few years ago if you watched espn it was full of tweets

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

I don't know, if it's all about the grift then can't he just charge right wing advertisers and cons political players and the like a lot of money, a la Trump overcharging people to stay in his hotel?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't want to downplay its significance (e.g. Trump), but people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance

Definitely, and I think it works from the ego entanglement and self-identification and self-branding that the particular kind of user who needs social media to exist as a promotional tool. The network they identify with just simply must be important because they view themselves as very important people.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

that sounds weirdly like an argument for its importance

lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link


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