Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

lol I won't bring up the time an ilx poster was trying to argue that Musk is left-wing

Imagine being that rich and caring so much about what people thought of you, though.

i stick with my analysis from another thread, gleeful scofflaw fraudsters often look annoyingly like permanent winners till the edifice topples, i am happy to see EM's set-up as a perpetual motion machine of bullshit, every element propping up the one next to it but more and more frantic stunts being unleashed to shore up and distract from the fact that no part is actually really working at all

i guess my view on that is that the fraud is all in full view. tesla has looked and looks and is extremely dodgy in all sorts of respects, and the bottom is falling out of the EV market. but i don't think that makes him a fraudster in the dan davies sense. i think he's just a dodgy businessman. a huckster basically. it's not hidden fraud. it's in full view. same with twitter, which he seems to have bought inadvertently, and not really have any idea what he wants to do with other than troll people. he's wealthy enought to troll people by buying a platform without it being fraud. it's just silly and unpleasant ofc.

silicon valley trump?

Ok but who said he was left wing, was it Fizzles

xxp
yes calz I heard the same trailer on radio 4 and that line made me exclaim "oh fuck off!!" as I was driving

gyac you're a f'ing chancer you are

the elon musk of ilx

Look you know you are a top 200 ilxor of mine but you are nothing if not meltish

xp wow

Can we move this thread towards intro-ukpol bullying and away from tw***er before caek comes in and starts talking about how he used to work there, you know!

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fucking state of the bbc, man!

come on Fizzles shame the devil and fess up!

lol i have no idea who said he was left wing. i strongly refute gyac's melt accusation and will have it in 'the town square of ilx' if necessary.

I'm joking lol!

xp thank you for confirming it was fizzles, there’s a bin with his name (and a decrepit looking Chinese) on it

ofc! i took it in kind! (sitting here drinking melt wine listening to melt jazz)

lol i have no idea who said he was left wing. i strongly refute gyac's melt accusation and will have it in 'the town square of ilx' if necessary.

I've had to stop going to that chinese

no it was a US poster - I'm finished with retrospective shit stirring for the night now

Imagine being that rich and caring so much about what people thought of you, though.

― barry sito (gyac), Monday, October 31, 2022 8:59 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

are there any rich people who don't care very much about what other people think of them?

ooh stephen bush - i think he's pretty sane and good, not because i agree with his politics, but because he attempts to think things through looking at the various sides... though interestingly i think his most recent article on... ELON MUSK... is absolute horseshit. genuinely The Worst of Stephen Bush.

I've had to stop going to that chinese

Imagine being that rich and caring so much about what people thought of you, though.

― barry sito (gyac), Monday, October 31, 2022 8:59 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

are there any rich people who don't care very much about what other people think of them?

pump and dump is securities fraud, he's literally already used twitter to do this with tesla stock and he's now gearing up to using twitter to do it with twitter stock lol, in case selling it is the only way out of what he's commited himself to

plus also he's starting to jerk advertisers around abt what kind of platform it's going to be and what it offers (lots of potentially miselading stuff can happen there, some of it illegal)

i agrere it's all right out in the open!

no, they've stopped doing their prawn toasts xpost

there are smart rich successful fraudsters no one knows abt bcz they are entirely canny abt getting on with robbing us and not drawing attention to themselves

Fizzles
Posted: 31 October 2022 at 21:15:51
ooh stephen bush - i think he's pretty sane and good, not because i agree with his politics, but because he attempts to think things through looking at the various sides...

The prosecution rests, your honour

true, i guess what i meant is that it wasn't that fraud that needs continual backing up - like a ponzi scheme.

one interesting thing watching the recent wirecard documentary – they were trying to get away with subsuming their v ponzi-ish fraud into a wider acquisition and they nearly got away with it. it makes you wonder how many time this has never been noticed.

Can we move this thread towards intro-ukpol bullying and away from tw***er before caek comes in and starts talking about how he used to work there, you know!

― barry sito (gyac), Monday, October 31, 2022 5:10 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

you can block me if you like? i don't mind.

that's an xpost to mark s. never talking to gyac again tbh.

Fizzles, maybe you are trying to summarise the Stephen Bush of about 4-5 years ago and stopped reading him in 2018?

possibly. i don't mind that he sets out his reasoning. he still feels different from columnists who are purely thumb on the scales. he allows you to work out where you disagree with him.

_Can we move this thread towards intro-ukpol bullying and away from tw***er before caek comes in and starts talking about how he used to work there, you know!

― barry sito (gyac), Monday, October 31, 2022 5:10 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink_


you can block me if you like? i don't mind.

that's an xpost to mark s. never talking to gyac again tbh.

sounds good.

i've been meaning to complain on here about that fucking BBC doc trailer for a week

amol rajan again?

the musk trailer on the radio is even more annoying than that "if you want to buy a good pressie for your kids before they go away to uni - buy them a tv license!" recurring ad from a couple of months back

Look you know you are a top 200 ilxor of mine

Underrated extremely faint praise. Invisible ink faint.

you can block me if you like? i don't mind.

I think I'm missing something - I've been on this site for 21 years and I didn't know you could block people.

_Look you know you are a top 200 ilxor of mine_


Underrated extremely faint praise. Invisible ink faint.

I was once talking to a posh couple in a pub who were saying he was a genius - you should have seen his ted talk, it was inspirational etc.. they thought I was lying when I mentioned he'd called the divers who rescued the school party "pedo guys".

I can beat this - the other day my therapist brought him up as an example of the power of self-esteem and self-confidence. Motivated by watching that BBC thing of course, ffs.

Guardian EXCLUSIVE - really:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/01/labour-needs-more-coherent-narrative-to-win-election-starmer-told

thoughts about how KS can win, from an unelected person who the admiring report makes clear is a malicious scumbag.

i just ready that twice and there's absolutely nothing of substance in it

Excited by the bold idea of trying to woo voters

_ I was once talking to a posh couple in a pub who were saying he was a genius - you should have seen his ted talk, it was inspirational etc.. they thought I was lying when I mentioned he'd called the divers who rescued the school party "pedo guys"._

I can beat this - the other day my _therapist_ brought him up as an example of the power of self-esteem and self-confidence. Motivated by watching that BBC thing of course, ffs.

please tell me you're finding a new therapist

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/nov/30/moma-video-games-art

OH NO THE GUARDIAN HAS DAMNDED video games

"… we have a small favour to ask. "