its kinda true but also if twitter ceased to exist everything would be ok
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link
I see it now.. this is The Producers of social media
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
I think it's quite possible that the only thing on Musk's mind right now is finding a way to make his money back, future of Twitter be damned, like a one-man private equity group.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
contrast elon trying to deny people their severance with how stripe is handling its layoffs https://stripe.com/en-gb-nl/newsroom/news/ceo-patrick-collisons-email-to-stripe-employees
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link
There are roughly 75 million cable subscribers in the US, which is about equal to the numbers of supposed US Twitter users. The argument that something like that should be treated as a utility is absurd.
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link
we can treat it as a utility if we want
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link
It’s not about the direct users though, it’s about how many things start there and spread to conventional media. Its influence surpasses its popularity and makes it problematic to have in the hands of a single person.
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link
I mean it seems like he is mostly going to wreck it, which would be fine, but in principle
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link
“this mind rot is so influential on the other mind rot, surely we must make it a public utility “
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link
its a reasonable argument
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
however i do think twitter was kinda toast before musk ever got ahold of it and now its really toast
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
He's going to turn it into some kind of unusable myspace junk and then sell it off for like $15 million or something. He's probably the only person in the world who could afford to burn through $44 billion, and he's going to do it.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link
thats my guess too
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link
I wonder if that will deflate the cult of musk that has emerged on the right. Some ppl are very worshipful in how they talk about this guy
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link
what could really deflate it is if he doesnt let them organize murders on his site
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link
Well the oath keepers and such, yes. But even your average rogan listener sees him as a brilliant visionary
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link
If the Cult of Trump is any indication, every failure will only boost his standing among the faithful.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link
Kanye seems to have actually lost his fans though.
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link
It’s very hard to say how these things shake out.
i mean joe rogan spread the litter boxes in classrooms conspiracy the other day, this shit is way off the rails
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link
Would replacing toilets with litter boxes at twitter save money on water? Could be a good idea
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
But yeah i get your point. The whole right wing and alt media space in america is extremely radical and irresponsible. These are the people who seem to love elon, even though i don’t think right wingers drive electric cars…
― treeship., Friday, 4 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link
theres another problem for him
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link
there's definitely a right wing type that drives teslas, i know a guy through work who is exactly that
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link
The fail whale! Hahah this whole situ gets more fkn hilarious every 12 hours or so. Except the staff layoffs part, that isn't funny.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 4 November 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link
there is def a conservative ev driver but i wouldnt say its the most common guy
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link
Lmao at charging $8 for a check mark with no authentication the day before the us elections. What could go wrong.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
they're free market libertarian types who think elon is a genius and are also getting socially conservative as they age
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
i know ive said it before itt but elon used to have a just perfect public image and he threw it in the trash for what to post some memes
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link
one theory i heard was that elon went right in order to court that demo to buy teslas cause he used up all the liberals by selling them shitty cars, i do not think thats true but its a nice theory anyway
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link
True
once upon a time only a different set of weird nerds understood this meme now everybody does. pic.twitter.com/AoR763T1oB— Atrios (@Atrios) November 3, 2022
What's strange is that there are a lot fewer weird nerds in my mentions when I criticize Musk than there were before he bought Twitter.— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 3, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:05 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah this strategy is too coherent for elon
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link
i don’t think right wingers drive electric cars…
The Trumpy neighbor across the alley from me drives a plug-in hybrid and just got solar.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:21 (one year ago) link
sales are already pretty even (you have to be rich enough to buy a Tesla in the first place and thus...) but Elon's not hurting Tesla as a brand with conservativeshttps://www.cnn.com/2022/02/03/cars/tesla-buyer-politics/index.html
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link
Lol pic.twitter.com/fIpbLlis0k— Citizen Shane (@ShaneSheehy) November 1, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
repost this one Elon
https://i.imgur.com/4o87E2W.jpg
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link
Employees in Twitter just got an email from their bosses saying layoffs are coming tomorrow.Those who are staying will get a note tomorrow in their work email. Those who are let go will get an email sent to their personal address.Slot machine-style layoffs.— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 4, 2022
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Friday, 4 November 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
Lol Twitter offices closed to ensure safety. This is like being ghosted by your job.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Friday, 4 November 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link
holy shit they're firing coders based on how many lines of code they wrote
an idiot like me wouldve stayed on for sure lmao
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link
has any big company ever fired half its workers WITHOUT immediately going into a death spiral? like within the last 40 years
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link
Why do people think Twitter isn’t worth 45 billion? Recall, Microsoft is currently acquiring Blizzard for 68.7 billion! A handful of companies could and would make that deal. The trickiest bit is getting regulatory approval but I feel like that becomes a lot easier if regulators perceive Musk as sinking the ship.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link
Blizzard makes a lot of money though don't they
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link
I don't really know anything about coding, but that doesn't seem like the best performance metric?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 4 November 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link
2021 Twitter revenue was 5 billion. 2021 Blizzard revenue was 8 billion. They both make a lot of money!
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 03:01 (one year ago) link
microsoft only bought blizzard because they love video games
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
I kind of think the opposite — people love believing that rich people they have political disagreements with are secretly unimpressive morons, but even if Musk’s Twitter investment goes to $0 he’s still had a tremendous world-changing career with impressive achievements. https://t.co/Jf08I17my7— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 4, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link
Ah see, Mr. Yglesias proves himself thoroughly wrong by being an openly unimpressive moron.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 November 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link
If cost monitoring (or lack thereof) is what I think it’s like, laying off even half a data science department is going to stop hundreds of thousands of dollars a month in random, non-intersecting experiments in figuring out user stats of whatever per month
I haven’t found a company yet who has figured out how to do this intelligently at scale it’s all “gpu machine go brrrrrr”
― mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link
Why do people think Twitter isn’t worth 45 billion? Recall, Microsoft is currently acquiring Blizzard for 68.7 billion! A handful of companies could and would make that deal. The trickiest bit is getting regulatory approval but I feel like that becomes a lot easier if regulators perceive Musk as sinking the ship.― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:42 PM (yesterday)
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, November 3, 2022 10:42 PM (yesterday)
twitter's peer companies (meta, snap, goog (via youtube)) are down ~50-80% since april, when elon made his offer. what's sort of neat is that because of musk's lawsuit, you can see what the market thought twitter was worth when they thought the deal would be renegotiated or wouldn't close entirely - and that number wasn't 44 billion! now, noone's saying it won't be worth 44 billion someday in the future, but my personal take is that if that ever happens, it will be due to some rising-tide-floats-all-boats forces such as a return to a ZIRP environment and the exuberance/frothiness of 2020/2021... and that's only if musk hasn't run it into the ground by then!
fyi, activision posted $2.7 billion in profits for 2021, while twitter posted $221 million in losses. so there's part of your answer? also, activision is the one that faces regulatory scrutiny here (via microsoft already being heavy in the gaming business / needing antitrust approval globally), not musk (twitter is not synergistic with electric vehicles nor is it synergistic with launch rockets, although maybe musk thinks one day it could be?). also, the deal already closed so there's not really any more regulatory risk!
― 龜, Friday, 4 November 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link
Wait so there’s no verification of who is paying for a blue check? Isn’t the entire value of having a blue check is that the person behind it is verified? So if anyone can pay for it, and it no longer means you are verified, what is the value? Why would anyone get a blue check? Just hoping that some dumb people who somehow hadn’t heard about the new blue check policy will think you are the real Joe Biden or something?
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link