Wait so there’s no verification of who is paying for a blue check? Isn’t the entire value of having a blue check is that the person behind it is verified? So if anyone can pay for it, and it no longer means you are verified, what is the value? Why would anyone get a blue check? Just hoping that some dumb people who somehow hadn’t heard about the new blue check policy will think you are the real Joe Biden or something?
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link
musk et al seem to have bought into the idea that a blue check is a status symbol which was never true and if it was then you are of course destroying that value by making this change
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link
its weird cause authentication does have value thats something you could reasonably sell, where as now the blue check is looking more like.......a scarlet letter
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link
idk maybe they arent capable of authenticating people right now because they fired that department
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link
there may be some utility to scammers over the short term until people figure out you can just buy one
But scammers would NEVER pay a small amount for potential greater rewards!!!
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link
I become more and more convinced every day that there are androids among us who don’t understand human behavior at all.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link
My impression is that nearly all of us are saying it won't be worth $44 billion one day?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
iirc a big part of the rollout of the blue checkmark back in the day was kind of soft-bullying celebs into joining twitter. like "we cant shut down these 9 imposter accounts unless you join so we can verify you". I remember celeb twitter accounts from back then that just had one pass-ag tweet like "i only joined to get them to delete other accounts, please visit my website"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link
Elon musk is what happens when the ghosts of a 16 year old edgelord and an 18th century coal baron struggle to control the same body— Mahogany (@Mahoganytooth) November 4, 2022
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link
The blue check mark was a status symbol tho! Esp for my friends in weird bands who didn’t “deserve” it. Many xxxxxxps
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 4 November 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link
but like just for fun right
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
well it was funNY that's for sure
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 4 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link
i mean there is evidence that people do take them seriously but i dont think its that popular of an idea
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link
things got weird when people assigned value other than "yes this is the person they're claiming to be"
twitter is partially to blame because they don't make you lock your username or (iirc) twitter handle (@) when you're verified. they then tend to revoke your verified status if you abuse it (see: italian elon musk, etc)
― mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue, due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists.Extremely messed up! They’re trying to destroy free speech in America.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 4, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
lmao
― mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!!
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
damn
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link
lmao @ him saying "nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists" the same day he fired literally half the staff
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/KdiuHd6gaC— Elon Musk (@ChrisWarcraft) November 4, 2022
gotta admit this is tremendous content
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link
lol former Viking Chris Kluwe! good dude
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
Whoa https://t.co/J0Xpq6G86T— Keanu Reeves (@abnerpastoll) November 4, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link
everyone's doing it now that verification is disappearing lol
― mh, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
I did not expect it to take less than two weeks for it to get this bad. Well done Elon!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
it's cool that free speech in America is entirely dependent on advertisers
― rob, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
he loves posting and loves the reaction he’s getting.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link
not to do the Trumpy "here's what he's REALLY doing" thing for a guy who probably hasn't slept in 4 days but is there a chance he's saying this as a way to justify the massive layoffs without getting sued? I mean legally I'm sure this won't work but Musk seems like one of those "they have to tell you if they're a cop, man" guys
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
firing 50% of the workforce will be so good for morale - imagine losing that many of your co workers in a day
"Musk plans to eliminate half of Twitter’s workforce to slash costs at the social media platform he acquired for $44 billion last month, people with knowledge of the matter have said. The company must also find ways to cope with interest costs on a massive debt pile."
https://www.pressherald.com/2022/11/04/layoffs-lawsuits-begin-after-musk-takes-twitter-helm/
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
looks like he's following the letter of the warn act
Latest: “It looks like employees are getting their notices and at least some will be paid until January 4,” says the attorney who sued Twitter under WARN Act. “I am pleased that Elon Musk learned something from the lawsuit we brought against him at Tesla" https://t.co/OMwAAFzLlE— Josh Eidelson (@josheidelson) November 4, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
(accidentaly fires entire ar15 magazine into my foot & leg with 100% accuracy rate) alright. thats fine. heres what i think happened, [1/82]— wint (@dril) June 9, 2017
― frogbs, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link
Wonder what percentage of the team that suspends misbehaving verified accounts is getting the axe.
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
For some reason I read ar15 as art15 which must be a cool art zine
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
it’s funny cause looking at the most recent results of every social media company, ad buying on a whole is way down and projected to keep on going down as advertisers braces for the recession. in this environment, twitter’s implosion / elon’s own goaling must look like a freakin gift, easiest spending cut to justify ever if you’re an advertiser.
― 龜, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
everythings fine
Having a nightly standup is bad enough, but imagine holding one while everyone around you is being unceremoniously fired pic.twitter.com/aumYS2LW1V— Shantini Vyas (@shantinix) November 4, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
On Wednesday, if you would’ve asked, I would’ve said that product designers who can’t program but work on software is bad for software and the entire field of “AI ethics and responsibility” is quackery. Yet, after seeing all these people laid off, I feel terrible for thinking this.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
The blue check mark was a status symbol tho! Esp for my friends in weird bands who didn’t “deserve” it. Many xxxxxxps― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, November 4, 2022 9:49 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
It’s also very popular in science where people are paid in prestige.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
Sure pic.twitter.com/9Zbxcmt5Kj— Katrina McKinney (@catincoggnito) November 4, 2022
― firm foundation of unyielding despair (Sanpaku), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
Esther Crawford is one example of why I believe product designers who can’t program make terrible software.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link
twitter's peer companies (meta, snap, goog (via youtube)) are down ~50-80% since april, when elon made his offer. what's sort of neat is that because of musk's lawsuit, you can see what the market thought twitter was worth when they thought the deal would be renegotiated or wouldn't close entirely - and that number wasn't 44 billion! now, noone's saying it won't be worth 44 billion someday in the future, but my personal take is that if that ever happens, it will be due to some rising-tide-floats-all-boats forces such as a return to a ZIRP environment and the exuberance/frothiness of 2020/2021... and that's only if musk hasn't run it into the ground by then!
fwiw I agree, I just think that’ll happened. The “correction” went way beyond reasonable correction. I believe all of these companies are presently undervalued. Including my current employer who can’t even ship avatar legs.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
idk programmers who design also make terrible software, its pretty hard to be good at both, and also hard to do both
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
idk programmers who design also make terrible software, its pretty hard to be good at both, and also hard to do both― lag∞n, Friday, November 4, 2022 12:06 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Friday, November 4, 2022 12:06 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol fair!
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
software is hard is how i break it down to an extent
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
software is hard is how i break it down to an extent― lag∞n, Friday, November 4, 2022 12:07 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Friday, November 4, 2022 12:07 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
My point is really that product designers who can’t program struggle to iterate. They can make the design process feel glacial and cumbersome. If you can program, it’s possible to brute-force a solution and retain some creative momentum. I guess this is probably a better discussion for a different thread!
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
And, truthfully, there’s nothing worse than a non-creative product engineer. You can usually spot them by their vocal love for Haskell.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
I’ve written this elsewhere in this thread, but I was thinking about it this morning. I have friends at both Tesla and SpaceX and they all seem satisfied by their jobs. They all say Musk can be a great CEO because his ADHD is so intense that, in practice, he leaves everyone alone to do their work relatively unmanaged because he’s so frequently distracted by unimportant nonsense. Zuck still commits code and it’s annoying. sund4r frequently attends design meetings and I imagine that’s annoying too. I wonder what they think of Musk making all these product changes at Twitter, making people work 80 hour works to ship his pet features, running Twitter polls, etc.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link
xps re nightly standup
I love my family and I’m grateful they understand that there are times where I need to go into overdrive to grind and push in order to deliver. Building new things at Twitter's scale is very hard to do. I'm lucky to be doing this work alongside some of the best people in tech. 💙— Esther Crawford ✨ (@esthercrawford) November 2, 2022
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, November 4, 2022 12:10 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
cmon u know you want to work at a place where you can just write weird haskell programs all day and never have to talk to another designer/marketer/bizdev guy, thats the dream
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
man’s got Your Da energy no matter how many emojis he uses
The hilarious tragedy of Elon Musk is he really wants to post but he can’t. The man can’t post. It’s not in his blood and it never will be. He can spend all the money in the world and he’ll never be a poster. The real ones know exactly what I mean.— gaming on an ultrawide (toilet) (@Arr) November 3, 2022
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link