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i meant redundant with ILX itself.

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

I joined and am hoping to a return to the simpler/more enjoyable days of Tumblr communities.

@sctttn✧✧✧@ms✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 5 November 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Try it as a URL!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 November 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

Weird formatting there!

https://mstdn.social/@sctttnnnt

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 5 November 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

I don't get it at all, but I am here https://mstdn.social/@akmonday

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

@lathamgr✧✧✧@ravenat✧✧✧.c✧✧✧

that's right , I ravve

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

what the hell - diamonds??

@lathamgr✧✧✧@ravenat✧✧✧.c✧✧✧

@lathamgr✧✧✧@ravenat✧✧✧.c✧✧✧

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

please lord help

v

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

https://ravenation.club/web/@lathamgreen

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 5 November 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

ilx has disguised emails for like 15 years dude, write it out like i did

at lathamgreen at whichever dot whatever

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

great, lathamgreen is now the only person I am following on mastadon. I hope lathamgreen will not be pushing me disinformatioons.

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

u can say yes to my pending friend request and then follow me if u like :D

or not no pressure

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

I didn't get one (if that was directed at me). One thing I don't quite get: on mastadon.social, if I search for @quartzcity or @mrnedrick, I see your profiles aand am able to follow you. but this doesn't seem to be generally the case; for instance, tried to follow Damon K. but he's on a different instance entirely but I can't seem to do that without also having an account on that mastadon server? maybe I'm doing this incorrectly. we'll see how long I stay interested, I give it two days.

akm, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

tried to find people but doesn't seem to work. looks very unlikely that I'll ever use it anyway, seems like a bit too much of a commitment to have a new social media app. anyway https://mastodon.world/@centuriesofsound

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

I’m on there - @Jelbu✧✧✧@m✧✧.t✧

It works for like 10 minutes of every hour as far as I can tell

jel--, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

Jelbugle mas to

jel--, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

yes sorry, this is me mark s (dubdobdee) talking to you akm (akmonday)

i'm in mastodon social, which may or may not be the same server as mstdn social (probably not the same, which might "explain" the non-connection)

it's telling me follow request is pending approval at the moment -- i know it sometimes takes time to clear (especially at the moment with lots of new ppl joining)

you dfon't need to have an account in more than one server to follow accounts in other servers, but with some inter-server hook-ups it is a bit more intricate (and apparently counter-intuitive, i remember having to puzzle it out when i first joined but can't now recall what the error was that i was making)

(there are actually also some servers which have entirely blocked other servers but that's unlikeley to be an issue for anywhere ppl are currently moving into)

mark s, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

The only alternative to Twitter is the Statscock

jel--, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

I got onto the app but just getting 503 errors

nashwan, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link

I mean, I have ILX, Facebook, a Viber account, Reddit, a twitter I dont use, an IG I dont use, I still have my livejournal ffs, and I have a blog that I never update.

Fuck am I going to do with more crap to log into. Personally I wish everyone'd start up a subreddit to sit and chat in, but I know thats never gonna happen.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

I signed up for a Mastodon account with relative ease, but now that I'm on there have no idea what to do. For me, it suffers from the same flaw as Instagram: you can only search by hashtags. So trying to find interesting accounts to follow by just typing in various artists or writers or bands is impossible.

Me, I'm all for a return to Usenet.

gjoon1, Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

it's funny how nobody is talking about going to Facebook even as a joke

— blaine capatch (@blainecapatch) November 5, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link

LOL thats because everyone who is on twitter left FB to go there. Its the only reason I even have a twitter - to keep up with a few close friends who straight up do not post anything anywhere else.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 6 November 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link

xp I'm totally prepared to go back to store-and-forward in case the Internet segments back into national/local networks.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 6 November 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

BBS style!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 6 November 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

Bring on ilx.i-love-everything and ilx.i-love-music!

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 6 November 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link

A vision!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 November 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

Usenet is just sitting there for the taking. There's great clients, better ways to block spammers, alas....

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 November 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link

I mean the whole point of the original host of ILX was Usenet functionality on the web

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 November 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

For several years, I ran the message boards for Spiritualized and The Church off of a Usenet nntp server app that ran on a spare System 9 Power Mac 7500 in my apartment closet. I still miss those days

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 November 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

Isnt usenet a hive of scum and villany porn spam?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 6 November 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link

I tried setting up a mastodon account and kept getting forbidden errors with no detail about which field was being rejected. I might try again later.

In other words...

tweeters trying to figure out mastodon pic.twitter.com/Iy49vIZhuj

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) November 6, 2022

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 6 November 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

suggesting Mastodon to most people as a twitter replacement is like if you ordered a steak at a restaurant and the waiter handed you the map to a cow pasture and a bolt gun

— 👨🏻‍💻☕️ (@hunterwalk) November 5, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 6 November 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link

Add me on mastadon https://t.co/CMGUq9o5Z1

— Don Hughes 🎄🎁 (@getfiscal) November 5, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 11:05 (one year ago) link

the library of alexandria dril museum but it just contains a single @getfiscal tweet (that one)

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

Don is truly the masta

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Sunday, 6 November 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

proof if proof be need be:

So the guy who coded Mastodon is...Russian.

Just FYI.
🤣

— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) November 5, 2022

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

The guy who coded it is German apparently.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

https://mastodon.lol/@nathan/109294013603133150

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

Basically it's really creaky. See where it goes, it may not cool either if twitter dies in a few weeks.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

eugen rochko aka gargron, german citizen, lived in germany since age 11 (2004), born in russia of russian-jewish family (source wikipedia)

for eric g = much to ponder

it's time for some game theory!

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

it's not very big at all and it's made up of lots of mini-communities run by ordinary computer-users giving their time (generally unpaid, tho some have patreons etc)

will it survive a genuinely huge influx in one go? twitter = c.400m (inc many bots of course); mastodon is currently like 700,000 i think? (which is roughly double what it was at the beginning of the week, acc.gargron)

of course every single joining mastodon user could start their own instance, it's a software you download -- that wd be maximally decentralised and stable (it would miss the influx problem) but it wd also manifest as huge problems against social connectivity

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

it's time for some goyim theory

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 6 November 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

Would people use an ilxor server? I’d maintain and pay for it if people would use it.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

sure, but it's not clear to me what the advantage to any one server is over any other; ie: can we restrict posts to one server to only accounts set up on that server? does that mean all of us ilxors would have to have accounts on the ilx server if we wanted to see the interactions there, or can we keep our accounts that we setup elsewhere? etc.

akm, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

I think you’re overthinking this. Think of like e-mail. You can use whatever host you’d like and interact with anyone else, from whatever host.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

Will keep trying with Mastodon.

Yeah imma just have to go down with the ship this ain’t it. pic.twitter.com/EsAWDoEmC8

— Evil Darkskin Nigga (@FTate05) November 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

"What is ActivityPub?
Mastodon uses a standardized, open protocol to implement federation. It is called ActivityPub. Any software that likewise implements federation via ActivityPub can seamlessly communicate with Mastodon, just like Mastodon websites communicate with one another."

"Because Mastodon is simply software that can be used to power any website, potential users of Mastodon have the option of choosing a service provider from already-existing Mastodon websites, or to create their own Mastodon website if they wish."

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#:~:text=Mastodon%20uses%20a%20standardized%2C%20open,websites%20communicate%20with%20one%20another.

I think you could refuse to accpt a user to a mastodon instance if you wanted to restrict it to certain people

| (Latham Green), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

The main drawback to the different servers I see so far is it limits your ability to find people. Ned and I, for instance, are on different servers. I found him because I knew to search for him. So following him is no trouble. But when I look to see who he’s following—because after years of being friends on other social platforms I expect to find mutuals—I can only see people he follows *who are on the same server as me*. He might be following 50 or 100 people but I can only see the 8 or 9 who chose the same server as me.

I imagine that as things go on and I find more people to follow and we all get in the habit of reblogging each other, I’ll be less inclined to search for people this way and this drawback will fade away.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

Oh, ha, you have been away! .lol closed down, it was just one guy running it and the first twitter influx got too much for him to handle. That is a big issue with the system - you don't want to go for a big instance for a variety of reasons but the smaller ones will always have the risk of folding.

I feel like I'm becoming the Mastodon proselytiser over here, but there are definitely issues with it. I'd like to see more people join and give it a proper try rather than automatically going to bluesky, but I think part of my enjoyment of Mastodon is that I genuinely want a smaller space now, and for lots of people that isn't what they want at all.

emil.y, Sunday, 2 July 2023 14:42 (nine months ago) link

Gotta OPSEC yr instances.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 July 2023 06:05 (nine months ago) link

"Oh, ha, you have been away! .lol closed down, it was just one guy running it and the first twitter influx got too much for him to handle."

Ah ok so I gotta rejoin under another instance. Will look to doing this. Any recommendations?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 10:52 (nine months ago) link

mas.to has been smooth sailing the whole time.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 July 2023 11:09 (nine months ago) link

Thanks, will look

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 11:25 (nine months ago) link

Done. That's a smoking fast server!! So I think I was really unlucky last time. We'll see.

Actually want to post there

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:32 (nine months ago) link

I am @✧✧@lgbt✧✧✧.sp✧✧✧ if anyone wants to follow my sporadic posts about music and nonsense (including far too many posts about old Eurovisions, I apologise).

emil.y, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:33 (nine months ago) link

Argh, forgot about the redactions - EK is the first bit. lgbtqia.space is the second bit.

emil.y, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:34 (nine months ago) link

We're following each other there, I think?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:56 (nine months ago) link

Yep, we are.

emil.y, Monday, 3 July 2023 19:06 (nine months ago) link

is there a way to find bands easy on this thing

nxd, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 18:44 (nine months ago) link

Following this on Mastodon.

Prime Numbers bot won't be tweeting anymore due to Twitter's API and policy changes. The bot lost API access a few days ago, and won't be coming back, but it lives on in a few different places:

web/rss: https://t.co/ujQjfo0AMA
mastodon: https://t.co/FJhv5cV0PJ

— Prime Numbers (@_primes_) July 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:47 (nine months ago) link

currently relearning the process of finding people and adding them to a list i have set up : not the easiest of processes to say the least.

mark e, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 11:56 (nine months ago) link

is there a way to find bands easy on this thing

If they're on there, you should be able to search for the name of the band and unless they've given themselves a comedy username they'll come up. I don't think bands make themselves accounts there as a matter of course, though, so you might not have much luck unless you're sure they're there already. You also can't search for text within posts so you can't just look for any reference to the band (unless it's a hashtag).

If you're just looking for bands who are on there and to maybe discover something new, there are two options:

1) browse the music servers from joinmastodon.org/servers. See if there's anything you like the look of and then browse their local timeline. For example, https://synthwave.social/public/local.

2) search for hashtags, like #DIY or #ElectronicMusic or #BlackMetal or whatever. You can follow those hashtags to get new posts about them straight in your feed and keep an eye on anyone new posting about the topic.

emil.y, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 12:53 (nine months ago) link

back into the swing of things now.
however, i clearly need to use hashtags more.

mark e, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:41 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

Can someone familiar with the "fediverse" answer a basic question? (I've used Mastodon a little while, but still don't understand some of the underpinnnings.) When it comes to these other platforms that use ActivityPub to talk to each other... how do they actually interact? Like, when I search for a hashtag on Mastodon, should I also theoretically be seeing posts using that hashtag on "Akkoma" and all the others? Or is there more to it? Thx

Girl (1956) (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 23:01 (five months ago) link


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