Mastodon (Not the Band) Classic or Dud

tried to find people but doesn't seem to work. looks very unlikely that I'll ever use it anyway, seems like a bit too much of a commitment to have a new social media app. anyway https://mastodon.world/@centuriesofsound

I’m on there - @Jelbu✧✧✧@m✧✧.t✧

It works for like 10 minutes of every hour as far as I can tell

Jelbugle mas to

yes sorry, this is me mark s (dubdobdee) talking to you akm (akmonday)

i'm in mastodon social, which may or may not be the same server as mstdn social (probably not the same, which might "explain" the non-connection)

it's telling me follow request is pending approval at the moment -- i know it sometimes takes time to clear (especially at the moment with lots of new ppl joining)

you dfon't need to have an account in more than one server to follow accounts in other servers, but with some inter-server hook-ups it is a bit more intricate (and apparently counter-intuitive, i remember having to puzzle it out when i first joined but can't now recall what the error was that i was making)

(there are actually also some servers which have entirely blocked other servers but that's unlikeley to be an issue for anywhere ppl are currently moving into)

The only alternative to Twitter is the Statscock

I got onto the app but just getting 503 errors

I mean, I have ILX, Facebook, a Viber account, Reddit, a twitter I dont use, an IG I dont use, I still have my livejournal ffs, and I have a blog that I never update.

Fuck am I going to do with more crap to log into. Personally I wish everyone'd start up a subreddit to sit and chat in, but I know thats never gonna happen.

I signed up for a Mastodon account with relative ease, but now that I'm on there have no idea what to do. For me, it suffers from the same flaw as Instagram: you can only search by hashtags. So trying to find interesting accounts to follow by just typing in various artists or writers or bands is impossible.

Me, I'm all for a return to Usenet.

it's funny how nobody is talking about going to Facebook even as a joke

— blaine capatch (@blainecapatch) November 5, 2022

LOL thats because everyone who is on twitter left FB to go there. Its the only reason I even have a twitter - to keep up with a few close friends who straight up do not post anything anywhere else.

xp I'm totally prepared to go back to store-and-forward in case the Internet segments back into national/local networks.

BBS style!

Bring on ilx.i-love-everything and ilx.i-love-music!

A vision!

Usenet is just sitting there for the taking. There's great clients, better ways to block spammers, alas....

I mean the whole point of the original host of ILX was Usenet functionality on the web

For several years, I ran the message boards for Spiritualized and The Church off of a Usenet nntp server app that ran on a spare System 9 Power Mac 7500 in my apartment closet. I still miss those days

Isnt usenet a hive of scum and villany porn spam?

I tried setting up a mastodon account and kept getting forbidden errors with no detail about which field was being rejected. I might try again later.

In other words...

tweeters trying to figure out mastodon pic.twitter.com/Iy49vIZhuj

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) November 6, 2022

suggesting Mastodon to most people as a twitter replacement is like if you ordered a steak at a restaurant and the waiter handed you the map to a cow pasture and a bolt gun

— 👨🏻‍💻☕️ (@hunterwalk) November 5, 2022

Add me on mastadon https://t.co/CMGUq9o5Z1

— Don Hughes 🎄🎁 (@getfiscal) November 5, 2022

the library of alexandria dril museum but it just contains a single @getfiscal tweet (that one)

Don is truly the masta

proof if proof be need be:

So the guy who coded Mastodon is...Russian.

Just FYI.
🤣

— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) November 5, 2022

The guy who coded it is German apparently.

https://mastodon.lol/@nathan/109294013603133150

Basically it's really creaky. See where it goes, it may not cool either if twitter dies in a few weeks.

eugen rochko aka gargron, german citizen, lived in germany since age 11 (2004), born in russia of russian-jewish family (source wikipedia)

for eric g = much to ponder

it's time for some game theory!

it's not very big at all and it's made up of lots of mini-communities run by ordinary computer-users giving their time (generally unpaid, tho some have patreons etc)

will it survive a genuinely huge influx in one go? twitter = c.400m (inc many bots of course); mastodon is currently like 700,000 i think? (which is roughly double what it was at the beginning of the week, acc.gargron)

of course every single joining mastodon user could start their own instance, it's a software you download -- that wd be maximally decentralised and stable (it would miss the influx problem) but it wd also manifest as huge problems against social connectivity

it's time for some goyim theory

https://fedi.tips/mastodon-and-the-fediverse-beginners-start-here/#whyisthefediverseonsomanyseparateservers

Would people use an ilxor server? I’d maintain and pay for it if people would use it.

sure, but it's not clear to me what the advantage to any one server is over any other; ie: can we restrict posts to one server to only accounts set up on that server? does that mean all of us ilxors would have to have accounts on the ilx server if we wanted to see the interactions there, or can we keep our accounts that we setup elsewhere? etc.

I think you’re overthinking this. Think of like e-mail. You can use whatever host you’d like and interact with anyone else, from whatever host.

Will keep trying with Mastodon.

Yeah imma just have to go down with the ship this ain’t it. pic.twitter.com/EsAWDoEmC8

— Evil Darkskin Nigga (@FTate05) November 6, 2022

"What is ActivityPub?
Mastodon uses a standardized, open protocol to implement federation. It is called ActivityPub. Any software that likewise implements federation via ActivityPub can seamlessly communicate with Mastodon, just like Mastodon websites communicate with one another."

"Because Mastodon is simply software that can be used to power any website, potential users of Mastodon have the option of choosing a service provider from already-existing Mastodon websites, or to create their own Mastodon website if they wish."

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#:~:text=Mastodon%20uses%20a%20standardized%2C%20open,websites%20communicate%20with%20one%20another.

I think you could refuse to accpt a user to a mastodon instance if you wanted to restrict it to certain people

The main drawback to the different servers I see so far is it limits your ability to find people. Ned and I, for instance, are on different servers. I found him because I knew to search for him. So following him is no trouble. But when I look to see who he’s following—because after years of being friends on other social platforms I expect to find mutuals—I can only see people he follows *who are on the same server as me*. He might be following 50 or 100 people but I can only see the 8 or 9 who chose the same server as me.

I imagine that as things go on and I find more people to follow and we all get in the habit of reblogging each other, I’ll be less inclined to search for people this way and this drawback will fade away.

No, if you click on the link to (for example) Ned's profile *on his server* (it's very easy - try it!) you can see who all of his followers are and who he's following. That's how I connected with you.

Semi-obligatory dumb Twitter jokes:

Trust me I’ve been trying to join Mastodon for years now but those dudes play FAST

— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) November 6, 2022

TECH WRITERS: Joining Mastodon isn't as tricky as it seems.
ME: (Attempting to learn the bass part of "I Am Ahab") I don't know this is pretty challenging!

— Hunter Felt (@HunterFelt) November 5, 2022

This screenshot might be fake but if it's real it makes me slightly optimistic (Eugen is the CEO):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg6qqoQWYAER-zP.jpg

What was that social network site that I think was more of a Facebook replacement? It was all black in there too.

Diaspora? Ello?

No, if you click on the link to (for example) Ned's profile *on his server* (it's very easy - try it!) you can see who all of his followers are and who he's following. That's how I connected with you.

But if you try to click on one of them to follow and they're on a different server you have to then reload your own server and search their specific name and follow that, rather than just click 'FOLLOW'.

The mastodon mobile app is a much more pleasant experience than the web.

Am also on this thing now, I guess. https://journa.host/@rozlatiff

xpost Yes, even though I've gotten used to the desktop version, the official app is pretty slick, and I've seen reports that other third party apps might be even better.

Diaspora? Ello?

Yes.

I forgot about Diaspora, I think that was initially a livejournal replacement wannit?

one side-effect from reactivating my 2018 mastodon acct is that i'm also suddenly reconnecting with foax from an oldschool messageboard i always liked but did kinda desert round the time i was doing my book (mainly earnest timesink avoidance, never intended as a flounce) = unfogged

more to the point maybe they're reconnecting with me, im guessing this means im more visible there than i was on twitter?

currently relearning the process of finding people and adding them to a list i have set up : not the easiest of processes to say the least.

is there a way to find bands easy on this thing

If they're on there, you should be able to search for the name of the band and unless they've given themselves a comedy username they'll come up. I don't think bands make themselves accounts there as a matter of course, though, so you might not have much luck unless you're sure they're there already. You also can't search for text within posts so you can't just look for any reference to the band (unless it's a hashtag).

If you're just looking for bands who are on there and to maybe discover something new, there are two options:

1) browse the music servers from joinmastodon.org/servers. See if there's anything you like the look of and then browse their local timeline. For example, https://synthwave.social/public/local.

2) search for hashtags, like #DIY or #ElectronicMusic or #BlackMetal or whatever. You can follow those hashtags to get new posts about them straight in your feed and keep an eye on anyone new posting about the topic.

back into the swing of things now.
however, i clearly need to use hashtags more.

Can someone familiar with the "fediverse" answer a basic question? (I've used Mastodon a little while, but still don't understand some of the underpinnnings.) When it comes to these other platforms that use ActivityPub to talk to each other... how do they actually interact? Like, when I search for a hashtag on Mastodon, should I also theoretically be seeing posts using that hashtag on "Akkoma" and all the others? Or is there more to it? Thx