Mastodon (Not the Band) Classic or Dud

xp All good, no worries

captnip twinz seems like an interesting person and i welcome their presence in my feed.

mastodon is an apt name for this because it's slow like the ice age !! haha

@catnip: I dont mean I wont follow you! I just dont recognise your handle, are you an ILM person or have u changed handles and I'm just slow.

ravenation.club heating da fuq up

Camila_Cabello
Camila Cabello :verified: @Camila_Cabello

When I was in high school I loved doing group work.

Harry Styles :verified: @Harry__Styles

The awkward moment when i reply to a fake @Louis_Tomlinson Haha!

of course i know these are fake.

reader: for a minute he thought they were real.

xxp Ha okay, sorry for any confusion.

Longtime ILM reader, brief stint posting last year when I thought 'if I value "olde internet" spaces like this (hopefully not an objectionable characterization?) I should probably participate more in the interest of keeping them going' before a new job unexpectedly burned up every last shred of mental energy that I had for participating in this or anything else and I dropped back off the face of the earth for a minute. Not at all someone you "should recognize" in a Cheers sense!

Like (I imagine) everyone else in this thread I'm trying to get my head around Mastodon, have been following people thinking "oh yeah I remember Twitter circa 2007; you just had to follow a bunch of people who were probably going to be fun to talk about records with and let things take their course from there". After a few follows, thought "I should probably say hi in the thread too, so people know what's up."

Anyway, feel free to follow or not; I have no idea whether I'll be all that engaged with Mastodon or in what way, and I absolutely 1000% get being like "don't know who this is, not worth it" in response to a follow request on the internet of 2022.

sort of feel like it makes a difference what server you join. like i could enjoy watching the 'local' feed if it wasn't a bunch of louis tomlinson fans posting about how the louis tomlinson account is fake??

i hope some high value twitter people start using it. though maybe it's more interesting as a 'start fresh' kind of deal and see where it goes, maybe nowhere, maybe something small and interesting.

the thing that will keep me coming back for a while is that it's open source and not for profit, that is naturally appealing to me even if it keeps the content limited and quiet.

Yes its not cavalier like days of yore, I agree there.

Mastodon is like a nice quiet visit to the library - nod your head politely to people you know, maybe the odd whispered conversation here or there - and then off again into the big bad world.

http://philip.greenspun.com/images/pcd0133/monument-valley-goats-40.1.jpg

RETVRN

got my verification email in the middle of the night.
but looks like the server i chose is pretty wobbly to say the least.
have sent a few follow requests to various folks here while i try and figure my way around.

Mastodon.lol mod telling me to log off

"Last update for tonight: The queue is starting to go down, slowly.

For now the best thing you can do to help things recover faster is stay off Mastodon for a few hours. It means less jobs get added to the queue and the delay will get shorter.

Good night"

It is like a library - you have to wait for the inter-library loan!

lol mod otm

so far I like Mastadon but I'm not following many people, only people from here and a few stray other accounts...but what I like about it is the insularity of it, I feel like I could more easily only follow ILXors et al and keep my feed about music and cultural issues and avoid politics entirely.

Molly JongFast had a post pointing out how Mastodon reinforces the point that quote retweets are destructive and generally are invites to dunk and bully

I see that ravenation has stopped registrations, these servers are all getting overwhelmed

Can't find the twitter thread this morning, but I saw one last night about a guy who got his Mastodon account nuked when the person who ran the server (federation? - not sure of the right term yet) he joined on decided to stop doing it and didn't follow the proper protocol for allowing users to move to a different one. Not sure if that's a one off thing or a wrinkle that still needs to get addressed as it grows more popular.

lol mod otm

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Rude

"I've got a lot of messages on how to donate to help with server costs, please check the post pinned on my profile for the Patreon (it's always been there!) :blobcat:"

Love how the emoji description is pasted.

person who ran the server (federation? - not sure of the right term yet)

right term = "instance" viz active copy of the software enabling a mini-community

the "server" will be the server the instance runs on, viz what server normally means (which probably hasn't been nuked, tho it may have been wiped). you can run several instances on one server, but i don't think (?) you can run a single instance on more than one server

a federation is a constellation of interconnected (but different) instances

i think the obvious appeal with this is that it's not for profit. if that goes away it will become Just Another Platform. that, more than the creakiness / slowness, is what would kill it imo. i think the fact that it works at all is a minor miracle. open source is cool, says someone who is too lazy to do open source.

apparently germany is all over it

i think the obvious appeal with this is that it's not for profit. if that goes away it will become Just Another Platform. that, more than the creakiness / slowness, is what would kill it imo. i think the fact that it works at all is a minor miracle. open source is cool, says someone who is too lazy to do open source.

― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, November 8, 2022 4:15 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

though the more i learn the more it's sinking in that this isn't a "site," it's many sites. some may institute more for-profit things as they grow? but also the fact that there isn't just one or two servers but many should make the basic model a lot more resilient to being "bought out" or w/e.

anyway it's great, i didn't expect it to be so nice.

right term = "instance" viz active copy of the software enabling a mini-community

the "server" will be the server the instance runs on, viz what server normally means (which probably hasn't been nuked, tho it may have been wiped). you can run several instances on one server, but i don't think (?) you can run a single instance on more than one server

a federation is a constellation of interconnected (but different) instances

thanks, genuinely still just trying to wrap my brain around how it all works. my post wasn't meant to disparage Mastodon btw, it was just an aspect that i never really considered before.

yeah, it's not an easy concept to get used to or see the implications of after decades of centralized social media platforms imo!

basic question :
i have no registered and got all set up, and finding my feet.
but, as there are some very specific servers, can i register on other servers using the same email address/username ?

yes i believe so: the specific account name consists of a user name yoked to an instance, but you can open up other accounts on other instances using the same user name if it isn't already taken there

but this is a separate account, not automatically linked to the original -- so you'd have to post toots in each separate place, tho there may be plug-ins etc that enable crossposting

(i think this is correct anyway)

thats what i thought ..
and yes, i was totally of the idea re literally having seperate accounts on different servers but would be easiest to use the same email address each time (username is not as important).

so one account for my general gubbins i.e. the one i have now,
and then popping over to other topic specific servers as and when, as their 'local' feeds would to totally different.

its an interesting concept now that i have got my head around it.

i think there isn't necessarily any reason to have an account on one server vs another one unless you like the name of the other server more, no? or is it just for discoverability of posts (is there some way to see 'posts from just this server'? i can't remember)

its the 'local' feed aspect that interests me.

surely if you are on a dedicated topic server, then the 'local' feed will be toots (yuck) about that servers specific topic ?

as far as i can tell, you can't see a different servers 'local' feed ?

Yeah I think you're right

another thing that I like about mastadon: free so far of twitterspeak. I never need to read another statement about how something 'hits different' or is 'giving' something or anyone going 'that's the tweet'. let that shit burn with twitter.

so far I like Mastadon but I'm not following many people, only people from here and a few stray other accounts...but what I like about it is the insularity of it, I feel like I could more easily only follow ILXors et al and keep my feed about music and cultural issues and avoid politics entirely.

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This is my plan.

in a sense that's basically what I pared FB down to as well, but I still dislike going there

Kind of tto bad - it seems you cant look at someone's followers or followed - unless you are on the sam e server??

that's inconsistent IME. there is usually a link at the bottom (if you're on the web) that lets you go to the users' profile on the other server and see them.

Finally moved off of the giant crush at mastodon.online. New address: https://onewilshire.la/@quartzcity

I did find out how to see followers using the web site

and meeting new people!

have enjoyed discovering this new toy.

however, i fear the influx that is killing performance is going to kill the love.
i blame the arrival of stephen fry and greta of course.

also, i have followed folks here and even if they follow me back i am still unable to see their followers, or who they are following.
there is a link to login via the web browser, but thats only for locally registered server users as far as i can tell as my instance login gets refused ?

so, still struggling to find followers of my followers.

seems like the only option is to publish my own groove here and there

https://mastodonapp.uk/@marke23

not that my server is in action at the moment.

So I picked an instance that said it was for journos/writers/bloggers and it had a lot of ppl on it, which I figured was a good sign, and today I log on to a message from what I assume is the instance host/mod that seems to imply hes a fucking cooker:

Announcing an incredible new TV Chanel on Amazon Firestick and Roku.

Its called Https://freedomdigitalbroadcasting.tv , we as a Free Speech Social Media Platform have partnered with them.

Everyone has the right to the truth and the TV Channel has lots of interviews with all the worlds top scientists etc that the MSM deny a platform to.

(bolding mine)
Am I paranoid or is this coming across as antivax/nutbaggy

I mean, I think its coming from my instance's host? It showed up as an "announcement" as opposed to a post.

Saw a post that likened the experience of joining to being at a social gathering having to listen to someone explain the tedious rules of a board game for half an hour which is otm. I’m sure this will be fun once it gets going but could we not just hang out idk

I joined mastodon.social in 2018 but only posted once and only followed my pal (who never even posted once). I’ve come back to it but I don’t really have the time to figure out all the bollocks so that may have to wait, I have followed a few ilxor chums tho. At the moment it seems like literally the only posts on there are mastodon explainers lol, and none of these explainers seem to apply to the iOS app. “You may be wondering why you see three timelines, local federated and the other one” no I am not because none of these are a thing on the app. “If you can’t see who someone’s following, go to their instance and *then* click on their profile” ok but this doesn’t seem to be a thing on the app either. Not gonna use this thing in safari, does the “it’s like the old web!” fetishism extend to it only being useable on desktop or is there a third party app that works

am currently using Metatext on iOS which I like better than the main mastodon app - you can toggle between your own, local and federated feeds. but for people on other servers that you're not already following, you do still have to open their profile on a web browser to see their whole posting history/people they're following.

LEST WE FORGET

During the brief left Twitter exodus to mastodon, the hell dude made a toot that I still think about to this day pic.twitter.com/u5mTpGXbd7

— 𝐃𝐄𝐕𝐎𝐍™ (@Devon_OnEarth) May 5, 2020

I guess we will see how much of a total trainwreck twitter becomes - then maybe mastodon will develop. Of course maybe Musky just sells it at some point in the future to someone everyone doesn't hate (Chris Rock?)

I see Max Kennerly (I don't know why I followed him) complaining that people are saying you have to have a Content Warning on any political posts. is that a thing? That seems stupid.